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1. And you'll think they're brilliant if they convict

Reply to ChisolmTrailDem (Original post)

Fri Feb 14, 2014, 03:56 PM

Feb 2014

I suppose a thoughtful deliberation is too much to ask for.

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WTF is wrong with that Dunn jury? [View all] ChisolmTrailDem Feb 2014 OP

And you'll think they're brilliant if they convict B2G Feb 2014 #1

That's my whole point! ChisolmTrailDem Feb 2014 #4

Oh come on yeoman6987 Feb 2014 #10

No, they were in all day yesterday and the full morning before. geek tragedy Feb 2014 #16

Longer than Zimmermann. yeoman6987 Feb 2014 #33

longer than Zimmermann, longer than Casey Anthony. geek tragedy Feb 2014 #37

Oh My God! yeoman6987 Feb 2014 #40

hopefully yours will be working by the end of the day, along geek tragedy Feb 2014 #56

I just can't believe their first vote didn't settle it. I've never seen a more cut and dried public ChisolmTrailDem Feb 2014 #27

Much as with the Zimmerman case, I ask myself what would have happened if Dunn had RKP5637 Feb 2014 #92

no, they'll have grasped the obvious if they convict on murder. geek tragedy Feb 2014 #17

Mr. Expert, How many murder juries have you served on? former9thward Feb 2014 #66

and that has what to do with what? any non-white supremacist can look at the facts geek tragedy Feb 2014 #67

That simple minded answer shows why you would never serve on a jury. former9thward Feb 2014 #72

You don't see this as an obvious case of guilt? geek tragedy Feb 2014 #73

As a lawyer I know not to follow cases over the internet. former9thward Feb 2014 #76

translation: you don't think Dunn is guilty. geek tragedy Feb 2014 #79

I just told you the entire trial was not televised. former9thward Feb 2014 #83

There's overwhelming and indisputable proof of guilt geek tragedy Feb 2014 #94

Anyone could have seen everything the jurors saw. pintobean Feb 2014 #103

The public actually sees more evidence than the jury because some evidence gets precluded. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2014 #148

you have no idea how much others here know- honestly jurors miss a fuck ton all the time. bettyellen Feb 2014 #108

Then lets do trials by internet mob. former9thward Feb 2014 #126

"Mob"? WinkyDink Feb 2014 #132

The poster who I was replying to said ordinary jurors were idiots. former9thward Feb 2014 #136

Ok Mr. Attorney, do y'all put words in peoples words or just you? rustydog Feb 2014 #159

"Stupid Florida jury fucks" former9thward Feb 2014 #169

This ^^^^ nt ChisolmTrailDem Feb 2014 #85

" If this was a slam dunk case" where would it have gone? bettyellen Feb 2014 #100

Why would I be "pissed off" about what anyone thinks about his stories? former9thward Feb 2014 #130

"If this was a slam dunk case"- please clarify, bettyellen Feb 2014 #158

Slam dunk cases settle. former9thward Feb 2014 #167

Thank you. 840high Feb 2014 #128

"a Roman circus"? Let your opinion out with that one. WinkyDink Feb 2014 #131

Do you favor mob rule? former9thward Feb 2014 #133

No. But then again, I haven't read anyone calling for it. Only YOU are characterizing opposing WinkyDink Feb 2014 #138

I see posts attacking our juror system. former9thward Feb 2014 #139

You need reading comprehension. Nobody is "attacking our juror" SYSTEM. WinkyDink Feb 2014 #154

You are an attorney? really rustydog Feb 2014 #160

No matter what I say you will say 'Anybody can say anything on the internet.' former9thward Feb 2014 #168

No. But I don't favor "white man privilege" rule, either. BlueCaliDem Feb 2014 #151

Do you mean like OJ Simpson? Bonduel Feb 2014 #173

No. More like Trayvon Martin. eom BlueCaliDem Feb 2014 #174

So you're saying a jury would see "pre-trial motions, thucythucy Feb 2014 #152

Actually ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2014 #86

I understand. former9thward Feb 2014 #90

One day we can trade horror stories ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2014 #96

Now part of your reply makes some sense! rustydog Feb 2014 #161

Respectfully, it is clear you have never served on a jury in a murder case..... Swede Atlanta Feb 2014 #82

i work plaintiff's side, presuming innocence not my strong point geek tragedy Feb 2014 #84

+1. eom 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2014 #88

Thank you for a thoughtful post and for your thoughtful service in our judicial system. X_Digger Feb 2014 #101

Thanks. Due process don't get no respect. nt Eleanors38 Feb 2014 #122

I wonder what sort of instructions the judge gave them Warpy Feb 2014 #2

Let's not jump to conclusions. Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2014 #6

The word "could" indicates speculation Warpy Feb 2014 #9

hung jury seems most likely--when you have an obvious case of guilt with really geek tragedy Feb 2014 #30

A hung jury would be bad but not a worst case scenario. Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2014 #43

worst case would be acquittal, which would necessitate a federal geek tragedy Feb 2014 #47

Biggest mistake by the Zimmerman prosecution team: Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2014 #60

though, in fairness, if a juror consciously determines to lie their way onto a jury, tough geek tragedy Feb 2014 #62

Happened in a DWI manslaughter case down here. Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2014 #64

I am not sure about that JJChambers Feb 2014 #89

I honestly think it's a hang up on 1st Degree vs. 2nd Degree murder. Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2014 #3

I'm starting to think the same thing JustAnotherGen Feb 2014 #7

I hope so. bravenak Feb 2014 #12

In the UK only 9 out of 12 jurors are required to agree dickthegrouch Feb 2014 #63

I like unanimous verdicts in criminal trials. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2014 #149

I think this also Quayblue Feb 2014 #51

I agree that the premeditation could be an issue davidpdx Feb 2014 #115

I COMPLETELY AGREE!! bravenak Feb 2014 #5

Unarmed black kids playing music in a car workinclasszero Feb 2014 #18

Well said. nt Cali_Democrat Feb 2014 #19

It's even a miscarriage of justice when it's black assailant and black victim Pretzel_Warrior Feb 2014 #21

Racism is so transparent in this country workinclasszero Feb 2014 #52

the more blacks and hispanic's convicted, the less voters that tend to vote Dem n/t Herself Feb 2014 #127

I agree with this assessment Skittles Feb 2014 #38

+1 uponit7771 Feb 2014 #116

It's more complicated than "Fuck that fucking guy!" Lost_Count Feb 2014 #8

I don't know.. SunsetDreams Feb 2014 #11

...and he gave at least 3 different versions of his story. nt Cali_Democrat Feb 2014 #15

yes he did.. SunsetDreams Feb 2014 #20

And I'm sure the jury had to sift through 3 layers of shit. Eleanors38 Feb 2014 #123

Why not wait for the verdict LittleBlue Feb 2014 #13

It is very frustrating when you see how people view the lives African Americans as less valuable. nt Cali_Democrat Feb 2014 #14

As evidenced by? Boom Sound 416 Feb 2014 #26

Why would it have to go beyond the vote they take before they even begin deliberating? This ChisolmTrailDem Feb 2014 #29

Well duh, see post 14 Boom Sound 416 Feb 2014 #36

One doesn't even have to look at this case or the Trayvon case Cali_Democrat Feb 2014 #34

So it's not because they are taking so long Boom Sound 416 Feb 2014 #39

No. The length of deliberations in this case has nothing to do with my initial statement. Cali_Democrat Feb 2014 #42

Blacks are disproportionately imprisoned more than whites... rustydog Feb 2014 #162

I hear you, Boom Sound 416 Feb 2014 #165

Would someone be a dear and link Boom Sound 416 Feb 2014 #22

huh? nt SunsetDreams Feb 2014 #24

I don't know how to read a jury but there have been juries that have taken a long time that hrmjustin Feb 2014 #23

I'm having an anxiety attack waiting riverwalker Feb 2014 #25

I'm worried he will get away with it. HappyMe Feb 2014 #28

Maybe if they were informed of your outrage pintobean Feb 2014 #31

Lol. +1000 B2G Feb 2014 #35

...it would slow 'em down even more. Eleanors38 Feb 2014 #124

Betting we have a verdict within 2 hours nt B2G Feb 2014 #32

how long did you deliberate? Enrique Feb 2014 #41

Post removed Post removed Feb 2014 #44

How does the OP have hostility toward white folks? Cali_Democrat Feb 2014 #45

it is our repeat troll. hrmjustin Feb 2014 #50

LOL Cali_Democrat Feb 2014 #54

There are times she tries to hide it but their are other times she doesn't. hrmjustin Feb 2014 #58

Back again lg? hrmjustin Feb 2014 #48

I alerted. Here are the jury results: smokey nj Feb 2014 #59

Good alert and results. she will be back as she always is. hrmjustin Feb 2014 #61

Why Don't You Relax, Fella, Take In A Show.... The Magistrate Feb 2014 #49

Hi right winger treestar Feb 2014 #53

Go read a book uppityperson Feb 2014 #55

True this meltdown is premature treestar Feb 2014 #46

What if they don't? You still whine? nt Logical Feb 2014 #68

Was that necessary? treestar Feb 2014 #141

I might be wrong, but it seems like the more public a case is, the more likely they get off n/t Victor_c3 Feb 2014 #57

various verdict results in high profile cases... TorchTheWitch Feb 2014 #143

they're doing there job as they're required to TorchTheWitch Feb 2014 #65

I am guessing it is because other famous juries- Zimmerman and Anthony actually did not understand bettyellen Feb 2014 #75

two juries out of how many cases in the state? TorchTheWitch Feb 2014 #109

LOL, I am sorry you have so much invested in this- or so much faith in juries. bettyellen Feb 2014 #112

blah, blah, blah TorchTheWitch Feb 2014 #113

so, no one can coment on the racial aspect of the trial- or they are racist. HA HA HA HA HA HA HA bettyellen Feb 2014 #114

what racial aspect of the trial? TorchTheWitch Feb 2014 #118

The fact that lawyers racially profile the jurors. And hope for racists in cases like this one. And bettyellen Feb 2014 #120

backpedaling TorchTheWitch Feb 2014 #121

I was laughing at you, lol. Can't help it. bettyellen Feb 2014 #156

Strong post. Thank you. 840high Feb 2014 #134

Thank you TorchTheWitch Herself Feb 2014 #144

bettyellen - I've read the exchange with Torch below . . . JustAnotherGen Feb 2014 #147

I don't know the jurors' profiles in any detail- bettyellen Feb 2014 #157

If you were on trial, wouldn't you want the jury to carefully consider everything? hamsterjill Feb 2014 #69

If I were on trial, I would want the jury to acquit even if I were guilty. nt geek tragedy Feb 2014 #74

I agree proudretiredvet Feb 2014 #111

I understand the frustration - raven mad Feb 2014 #70

the BIGGEST mistake people make is, blueknight Feb 2014 #71

Why is everybody pissed the jury is trying to take their time and come to a good decision? dballance Feb 2014 #77

because we are afraid one idiot related to the rage-o-holic racist pig on trial and would aquit? bettyellen Feb 2014 #81

You're correct, and it is Florida dballance Feb 2014 #87

I can multi-task, you know, and discuss things on a board, same as you do, ;-) bettyellen Feb 2014 #91

+1 dballance Feb 2014 #95

*waving stir-crazily from behind a pile of snow* bettyellen Feb 2014 #98

Takes time to examine evidence presented MO_Moderate Feb 2014 #78

safe to say 20 hours of deliberations is more than "not jumping to conclusions" nt geek tragedy Feb 2014 #80

The hurry up and hang him posts MO_Moderate Feb 2014 #93

but juries do base decisions on fantasies and emotion all the time, hence the concern here. bettyellen Feb 2014 #99

Ummm no, Dunn didn't take his time trying to kill 4 teenagers he hurried up and started shooting... uponit7771 Feb 2014 #117

Doesn't matter if he had tried to kill a hundred people MO_Moderate Feb 2014 #170

"A man's life is on the line." And Mr. Dunn took it. Oh, you mean HIS life? WHO FIRED THE *&^% WinkyDink Feb 2014 #135

WHO fired the gun isn't on trial MO_Moderate Feb 2014 #171

watch the westerns, there was usually a story line about vigilante Herself Feb 2014 #145

I'm thinking many angry/fearful posters are Herself Feb 2014 #146

OFGS. We don't "fear riots." We fear there is NO JUSTICE in Florida. Posting isn't "reacting WinkyDink Feb 2014 #153

I fear there is no justice, and I also fear the reaction to the continual Herself Feb 2014 #155

I was there. bravenak Feb 2014 #163

What they fear is being wrong MO_Moderate Feb 2014 #172

Ever been on a murder trial jury? Ever been on a jury in any criminal case? Any jury at all? X_Digger Feb 2014 #119

because Jordan was Black, so there is a presumption of guilt on his part JI7 Feb 2014 #97

Well, if we don't reverse global climate change Florida Cleita Feb 2014 #102

So global warming has some benefits? Cali_Democrat Feb 2014 #104

My nerves are getting to me lol skeewee08 Feb 2014 #105

The "stand Your ground"... adavid Feb 2014 #106

If he beats this....All black men...leave Florida if you can. Your life is worth nothing there SummerSnow Feb 2014 #107

It's because rrneck Feb 2014 #110

Post removed Post removed Feb 2014 #125

Your post is twisted and depraved. WinkyDink Feb 2014 #137

How so, and be specific. flvegan Feb 2014 #140

I actually choked back the bile and watched Nancy Grace OldHippieChick Feb 2014 #129

it's 34 pages TorchTheWitch Feb 2014 #142

Thank you for your posts, I'm listening. Herself Feb 2014 #166

Not uncommon to hang in a case like this... they will most likely put him on trial again JCMach1 Feb 2014 #150

maybe arguing over degree Spirochete Feb 2014 #164