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DragonBorn

(175 posts)
114. Hahahaha my word choice is the best rebuttal you can offer?
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 05:23 PM
Feb 2014

You obviously have never been in a violent encounter and you should be glad. They aren't fun. But it would be great if you didn't throw uninformed opinions around in a thread where you had no personal or practical experience. Cocked haymakers at a head pose no immediate danger, and buses going 5mph explode when they hit a parked car.

Its an excellent debating tactic to pick apart word choice such as thug, and street fight and not actually address any pertinent point I brought up. Its ok, other posters who read this thread will notice your obvious dodges.

Because street fight only refers to fights that happen on a street, that's not a descriptive word to illustrate the lack of rules, or the danger. A street fight and an organized fight (boxing, MMA) are two completely different beasts. I've been in both types of fights and let me tell you an organized fight is a breeze compared to a street fight even if the opponent is better trained in the organized fight simply because there are no rules and you have no idea of the intension of a person in a street fight (or should I have said bus fight)!

What is thug insensitive to criminals now? Should I use law abiding challenged individuals? Would that make you feel better? I'll never understand people who get upset when a law abiding person defends themselves from criminals that violently attack them.

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Dunno what I'd have done if driving. I hope I would have stopped the bus and called dispatch. struggle4progress Feb 2014 #1
Really people? JJChambers Feb 2014 #119
And your innocent victim let an uncontrolled bus CRASH into several cars as he exacted revenge rustydog Feb 2014 #128
/sigh JJChambers Feb 2014 #131
Really? Yes. He should have put it in park then gone and restrained the punk. cui bono Feb 2014 #139
Ideally, no, you don't: JJChambers Feb 2014 #142
I'm not victim blaming. I did see later how he was pulled from his seat. cui bono Feb 2014 #159
... me not being there, of course, but I think he should have first stopped the bus. He's RKP5637 Feb 2014 #157
If he had put the bus in park before he went after the kid, rudolph the red Feb 2014 #2
agree. it would seem the firing is more appropriate for hitting cars than hitting his attacker. n/t KurtNYC Feb 2014 #80
exactly Liberal_in_LA Feb 2014 #97
I wonder . . . Brigid Feb 2014 #3
That is what set the kid off, rudolph the red Feb 2014 #23
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2014 #150
Well that's no justification for the kid acting irrationally. cui bono Feb 2014 #160
Totally agree, didn't mean to imply that his behavior was justified rudolph the red Feb 2014 #161
He should be fired exboyfil Feb 2014 #4
Good Luck getting a jury to convict the driver of anything warrant46 Feb 2014 #33
I didn't say he should be charged exboyfil Feb 2014 #81
+1 warrant46 Feb 2014 #118
I tend to agree. The driver's first duty is safely securing the bus. Eleanors38 Feb 2014 #120
Well, I think we can see where the problem is here: Le Taz Hot Feb 2014 #5
I have to agree. HappyMe Feb 2014 #6
He has obviously caused trouble on the bus before, since he was given tblue37 Feb 2014 #148
Yeah, that line caused my stomach to flip-flop. Scuba Feb 2014 #7
Or she's calling for charges to be pressed because they should kcr Feb 2014 #9
Or maybe snowflake should have just sat down, Le Taz Hot Feb 2014 #10
You don't know what "snowflake's" problem was kcr Feb 2014 #11
Please show me, on this thread, Le Taz Hot Feb 2014 #12
Easy kcr Feb 2014 #15
Oh, ffs! Le Taz Hot Feb 2014 #16
Not excusing the kid's behavior. Not one bit. kcr Feb 2014 #18
Yeah, and I"m sure she marched snowflake Le Taz Hot Feb 2014 #20
Yep. That's the problem right there. You have no clue about this mother at all. kcr Feb 2014 #21
People have opinions. Le Taz Hot Feb 2014 #22
Sorry, but I calculate a 95% probability or better that the reason the mother wants to press MillennialDem Feb 2014 #24
Few parents would decline to press charges in this scenario kcr Feb 2014 #26
Again, the mother wants to do that because he hit her son, not because he left the MillennialDem Feb 2014 #28
You do not know that. kcr Feb 2014 #31
How come as far as know, 20 other parents aren't wanting to press charges? MillennialDem Feb 2014 #37
They aren't? kcr Feb 2014 #42
If you watch the video he had no choice but to fight back too. He didn't chase the teen down or MillennialDem Feb 2014 #30
I saw the video and I disagree. kcr Feb 2014 #32
Ok, how is the driver supposed to stop the vehicle while the kid is continuously MillennialDem Feb 2014 #35
He got up out of his seat and went down the isle delivering the beatdown kcr Feb 2014 #40
They fall/scuffle down the aisle as part of one continuous act (the fight). If you've MillennialDem Feb 2014 #43
Whatever. But the addition of the fact he's a bus driver kcr Feb 2014 #57
There is a point at which the boy kicks the driver away and then runs to the back exit. tblue37 Feb 2014 #155
I don't know what video you were watching.... Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2014 #53
The video I was watching was of a bus driver and a driver's seat kcr Feb 2014 #59
Ok, let's get in your car and I'll punch you and pull you away from the wheel. I bet you can't MillennialDem Feb 2014 #63
Okay. Let's clime a burning tower and rescue a kitten! kcr Feb 2014 #65
The kid did not pull the driver away from the wheel. Javaman Feb 2014 #67
The ARTICLE states that? And articles are never wrong? Watch the damn video closely and MillennialDem Feb 2014 #70
Both the article and the video show the kid didn't pull him out of the seat. n/t kcr Feb 2014 #72
I don't care what some idiot local reporter wrote or some company bureaucrat wrote. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2014 #73
again the kid endangered everyone..... gasman09 Feb 2014 #85
And again. Not excusing the kid. He's been charged with a felony. As he should be. kcr Feb 2014 #88
The perp 15 year old is a thug and hoodlum warrant46 Feb 2014 #36
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2014 #125
If it wasn't for their snowflake Politicalboi Feb 2014 #116
But the kid hitting the bus driver..... gasman09 Feb 2014 #83
Did I say that?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?! n/t kcr Feb 2014 #89
Did you even watch the video warren 46 posted? DragonBorn Feb 2014 #99
Sure did. I've watched it several times now. kcr Feb 2014 #101
Ha ha my word choice upsets you? DragonBorn Feb 2014 #106
I know I can't answer them? kcr Feb 2014 #107
I dont find thug to be offensive. You seemed to take offense to it. DragonBorn Feb 2014 #111
Street fight. In a street. Not on a bus. See the difference? kcr Feb 2014 #112
Hahahaha my word choice is the best rebuttal you can offer? DragonBorn Feb 2014 #114
No, my point had nothing to do with your word choice kcr Feb 2014 #115
The driver's responsibility for securing the bus is to be determined... Eleanors38 Feb 2014 #121
Another shocker n/t kcr Feb 2014 #123
"The bus crashing can burn us all to death". Let's get real here why don't we. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2014 #133
Yes, let's get real kcr Feb 2014 #134
At least my argument is grounded in the reality of what really happened. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2014 #135
The argument it was okay for the bus driver to do what he did kcr Feb 2014 #136
Can you remind me again what the final result was? Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2014 #137
Hey, bus drivers! kcr Feb 2014 #138
LOL because texting and driving is the same as defending yourself from a violent attack. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2014 #141
No. kcr Feb 2014 #143
Derp derp texting DUI crash crash flaming dead bodies derp derp. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2014 #144
Yep kcr Feb 2014 #145
....^ 840high Feb 2014 #90
I agree... one_voice Feb 2014 #96
I do teach today and your broad brush assessment of kids and their parents arely staircase Feb 2014 #127
Or it's possible you remember those parents kcr Feb 2014 #140
that ten percent are the ones that school administrators live in terror of arely staircase Feb 2014 #146
I don't doubt that kcr Feb 2014 #149
well as for the woman in the OP arely staircase Feb 2014 #151
It doesn't say the charges were for hitting her son kcr Feb 2014 #153
I got the impression it was for hittng her son arely staircase Feb 2014 #156
It's not an unreasonable argument to say she shouldn't be the one kcr Feb 2014 #158
the whole thing arely staircase Feb 2014 #162
He should have stopped the bus then and there... ananda Feb 2014 #8
Why did the kid sucker punch the bus driver? This fad of B Calm Feb 2014 #13
Driver should have called the police and pressed charges Lurks Often Feb 2014 #14
Wait, what? "The bus crashed into several cars" Javaman Feb 2014 #17
No. He's a hero! kcr Feb 2014 #19
Said no one. Ever. Le Taz Hot Feb 2014 #45
... kcr Feb 2014 #47
I'm sorry, Le Taz Hot Feb 2014 #48
And I'm sorry kcr Feb 2014 #55
So, the answer is "no." Le Taz Hot Feb 2014 #58
No... kcr Feb 2014 #64
That is pretty much what the dumbass kid should have done. HappyMe Feb 2014 #49
No excuse for what the kid did kcr Feb 2014 #71
I'm not outraged. HappyMe Feb 2014 #74
Yes, he should. kcr Feb 2014 #75
If the little asshole had not punched the driver - HappyMe Feb 2014 #76
I know. If a butterfly had never flapped its wings across the ocean kcr Feb 2014 #77
Kid is charged with two felonies, driver is not charged with anything. Hopefully he MillennialDem Feb 2014 #50
Why on earth should the driver get anything? kcr Feb 2014 #69
Yeah, the OP conveniently left out that part in the title, lol - he deserved to be fired. reformist2 Feb 2014 #27
Watch the video. He got up to defend himself because the kid was continuously MillennialDem Feb 2014 #38
so, let me get this straight... Javaman Feb 2014 #54
Well, let's see you try to CONTROL and DRIVE and STOP a bus while I pull you MillennialDem Feb 2014 #56
really? really? Javaman Feb 2014 #61
Let's get in your car and I'll punch you and pull you away from the wheel and see if you MillennialDem Feb 2014 #66
as I responded to your duplicate assertion above... Javaman Feb 2014 #68
And you believe everything you read. lol gasman09 Feb 2014 #87
No, but I believe my eyes. OnlinePoker Feb 2014 #91
+1 nt Javaman Feb 2014 #93
if the bus had hit someone the kid very well could be seen as the proximate cause of the person's arely staircase Feb 2014 #163
On the other hand if he took out a gun and shot the kid to death (even if the bus crashed) MillennialDem Feb 2014 #25
Why are you obsessed with gunz? Eleanors38 Feb 2014 #122
GDS (Gun Derangement Syndrome)... Some people just can't shake it. cherokeeprogressive Feb 2014 #152
Wisconsin bus driver leaves seat of moving school bus to punch minor, gets fired. Iggo Feb 2014 #29
WI bus driver stands up while teen is holding and punching him. FIXED MillennialDem Feb 2014 #39
Kid is at fault PowerToThePeople Feb 2014 #34
It was apparently a city transit bus, not a school bus ... surrealAmerican Feb 2014 #78
Is the kid in juvenile lockup for assault? PowerToThePeople Feb 2014 #79
There are no school buses in this town. dickensknitter Feb 2014 #82
Well, he should have stopped the bus before leaving MineralMan Feb 2014 #41
He should have put the bus in Park and then beat the shit out of that teen badtoworse Feb 2014 #44
Hard to judge someone harshly in the sich. Boom Sound 416 Feb 2014 #46
That fool left the wheel to throw punches? Catherine Vincent Feb 2014 #51
Watch the video, the kid is pulling him away from the wheel AND punching him. MillennialDem Feb 2014 #52
Thanks Catherine Vincent Feb 2014 #62
See my post #91 OnlinePoker Feb 2014 #92
Yeah, fire the bus driver, because you'd definitely have reacted so much better in his situation Distant Quasar Feb 2014 #60
I misunderstood the OP. This guy wasn't a school bus driver. lumberjack_jeff Feb 2014 #84
Hope they do more to this kid than exboyfil Feb 2014 #86
Damn right they should fire him, and possibly jail him as well. Donald Ian Rankin Feb 2014 #94
I posted the same responce upthread to someone else DragonBorn Feb 2014 #100
Watch the video yourself - all of it. Donald Ian Rankin Feb 2014 #103
No. DragonBorn Feb 2014 #117
Both people wrong. BlueCheese Feb 2014 #95
had he parked the bus before pounding on the snot-nosed punk, no charges or even wrongdoing geek tragedy Feb 2014 #98
Everyone talking trash about this bus driver DragonBorn Feb 2014 #102
You really don't need to know much more than reality to know to put the bus in park siligut Feb 2014 #104
When? DragonBorn Feb 2014 #108
The bus driver lost track of his first priority siligut Feb 2014 #110
So wait, this idiot just let the bus keep on rolling and didn't bother to stop? penultimate Feb 2014 #105
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2014 #109
Good. obxhead Feb 2014 #113
I'll let the investigation run its course, but your definition of ADULT Eleanors38 Feb 2014 #124
It stopped being self defense when he followed the child to the back of the bus. obxhead Feb 2014 #129
We'll see. My notion of self-defense has small bearing on life-status. Eleanors38 Feb 2014 #164
Actually it has no bearing on age. obxhead Feb 2014 #165
Still not determined as to the driver's culpability and Eleanors38 Feb 2014 #166
I haven't even read any of the other comments here arely staircase Feb 2014 #126
He would have been fine if he stopped the bus first. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2014 #130
Let's be real here. The bus never got over 2 or 3 MPH and had a minor fender bender ... Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2014 #132
Post removed Post removed Feb 2014 #147
In Florida, it seems, no problem. He could've slipped out his gun CW and killed him, kicked him RKP5637 Feb 2014 #154
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