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8. There is where you are confused....

Sun Feb 16, 2014, 10:41 AM

Feb 2014

The market demands what ever the men think is sexy.

Don't over analyze it.

And someone will respond "I don't think that cover is sexy" which is fine.

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"The market" seems to demand women have asses like prepubescent boys [View all] elehhhhna Feb 2014 OP

The swimsuit issue has always featured pipoman Feb 2014 #1

"we've always done it this way" does not answer the WHY question undeterred Feb 2014 #2

sports=athletic pipoman Feb 2014 #3

oranges=food undeterred Feb 2014 #4

photoshopped thighs that look like forearms = athletic elehhhhna Feb 2014 #9

! undeterred Feb 2014 #11

Sure. Like Christie Brinkley and Cheryl Tiegs? WinkyDink Feb 2014 #6

The assertion of the op pipoman Feb 2014 #15

Baaahhaahaahahaha whoosh! Twisty logic there. elehhhhna Feb 2014 #24

There's no 'whoosh' pipoman Feb 2014 #132

Women who are photoshopped to the point of unreality? VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #55

Athletic bodies? indie9197 Feb 2014 #46

If ESPN mag can do it (actual female athletes), so can SI. Lizzie Poppet Feb 2014 #50

Much better indie9197 Feb 2014 #53

Now those are some beautiful bodies. liberal_at_heart Feb 2014 #174

Wow. But I think that's too much for some men to handle. They like their models wafer thin Number23 Feb 2014 #195

I've watched her live...she's impressive. Lizzie Poppet Feb 2014 #196

Stunning Duckhunter935 Feb 2014 #201

Exactly....they're not athletes...they are more likely anorexics! VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #56

Upton doesn't seem that way... Lost_Count Feb 2014 #130

But is she an athlete? No..... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #140

My best advice? Lost_Count Feb 2014 #151

My best advice...we women shouldn't HAVE shy away from SPORTS freaking ILLUSTRATED! VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #153

As I'm sure you've seen... Lost_Count Feb 2014 #175

No...I expect to find athletes in swimsuits... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #197

I'm not entirely sure what the point is... Lost_Count Feb 2014 #200

I'm not trying to be rude MO_Moderate Feb 2014 #191

and they SHOULDN"T that is the point....those women are ANOMALIES! They are freaks of nature really. VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #198

Top athletes too are "freaks of nature" Fumesucker Feb 2014 #203

NOT just by beauty...sheesh VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #204

According to the NFL Players Association NFL players die early Fumesucker Feb 2014 #206

sorry but alot of NFL players are not healthy...they are FAT! VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #207

A freak of nature is a freak of nature Fumesucker Feb 2014 #219

BALONEY....you don't get to be an athlete...strictly by looking good! VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #221

My point is that unless you have just the right genetics you aren't going to do either Fumesucker Feb 2014 #226

My point is....they HAVE to do nothing else....they win the genetic lottery....they are pretty... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #227

Oh, I thought they had to do all sorts of unhealthy and unpleasant things to look like that? Fumesucker Feb 2014 #230

wtf...thats stupid....Poor poor Pretty people whatever will they do? VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #231

What "bias against women" am I showing? Fumesucker Feb 2014 #232

THIS one.... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #234

pretty much everyone in SI is a freak of nature Drahthaardogs Feb 2014 #224

NO they are not JUST that are they? They don't look in the mirror and know they are a world class VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #233

That's pretty mean MO_Moderate Feb 2014 #239

You missed the point...you have to take that in context VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #240

I didn't miss any point MO_Moderate Feb 2014 #242

Several SI swimsuit models have been and are athletes Major Nikon Feb 2014 #158

but are those 3? VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #159

They most certainly are physically fit Major Nikon Feb 2014 #161

It should be primarily marketed to sports enthusiasts...which includes ALOT of women VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #162

So write a letter and complain to the editors Major Nikon Feb 2014 #165

WE ARE complaining...we commiserating about it right now in fact... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #170

Somehow the boycott seems more of a threat in that instance Major Nikon Feb 2014 #171

I think occasionally that would be nice, but I'd rather see fully clothed female athletes in general Hippo_Tron Feb 2014 #64

I threw that out there as a better alternative indie9197 Feb 2014 #77

Those women do not have athletic bodies BainsBane Feb 2014 #138

What is absurd is the op pipoman Feb 2014 #184

And hips. And waistlines. Hence, the need to augment other areas of fat-loss. WinkyDink Feb 2014 #5

That sounds almost homophobic. Bonobo Feb 2014 #7

those do not resemble adult women's backsides whatsoever. just saying. elehhhhna Feb 2014 #10

But those ARE adult women. Nt Bonobo Feb 2014 #12

who have been photoshopped beyond reality...who probably haven't lifted anything VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #57

So why do they look exactly the same in the videos of the photo shoots? Major Nikon Feb 2014 #143

No they don't.... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #145

If that's true it shouldn't be that hard for you to prove then Major Nikon Feb 2014 #146

They sure as hell don't resemble the backsides of prepubescent boys, either. Orrex Feb 2014 #16

Sour grapes? FreeSpirit123 Feb 2014 #235

There is where you are confused.... Logical Feb 2014 #8

Or rather the market demands LostOne4Ever Feb 2014 #172

or little girls. cultivate the taste. nt seabeyond Feb 2014 #13

I've noticed that too 2pooped2pop Feb 2014 #14

Maybe you've got a point there Yo_Mama Feb 2014 #20

they have curves due to body fat and real breasts, as well. elehhhhna Feb 2014 #25

Maybe I phrased that badly Yo_Mama Feb 2014 #33

I wonder how much of a difference between then and now... Silent3 Feb 2014 #40

True. Yo_Mama Feb 2014 #49

Here's a pretty ridiculous one from 2012: wickerwoman Feb 2014 #168

You may be overthinking things. woolldog Feb 2014 #89

Carol Alt called Kate Upton a "large sized" model pokerfan Feb 2014 #136

Wow, that's a fascinating comparison. Like you I've never paid attention to SI before riderinthestorm Feb 2014 #47

So you go around looking at boy's asses and rating them? I am a male, I honestly don't bluestate10 Feb 2014 #218

yeah, that's what I do all right n/t 2pooped2pop Feb 2014 #237

The SI cover sure replaced bus driver punching as the latest most important issue ever in a hurry. arely staircase Feb 2014 #17

Now that we've solved world hunger and war ... n/t Yo_Mama Feb 2014 #22

personally I don't think the cornflake chicken controversy was ever really resolved arely staircase Feb 2014 #29

Or developed a sense of humor? Yo_Mama Feb 2014 #31

true enough arely staircase Feb 2014 #32

Thank you so much for chicken link Yo_Mama Feb 2014 #36

well to me they look like like athletic womens asses, if you think they look like young boys loli phabay Feb 2014 #18

No shit pintobean Feb 2014 #37

then you must not have ever seen non photoshopped athletic near naked women before! VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #58

actually seen more than my fair share both on the slopes and military loli phabay Feb 2014 #81

and they DIDN'T look like that... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #86

There is a difference between photoshopping and airbrushing B2G Feb 2014 #88

Photoshopping IS airbrushing! That is what you use do to it... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #90

Hogwash Major Nikon Feb 2014 #155

I didn't say that....but models...yeah. VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #157

All major magazines do it BainsBane Feb 2014 #167

as i said, saw lots of women who look like that, do youbreally not understand that there are women loli phabay Feb 2014 #91

No you haven't...those women are photoshopped...guaranteed! VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #93

So what exactly is your point? B2G Feb 2014 #94

that THOSE women do not even look like that! VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #98

How do you know that? B2G Feb 2014 #99

because THOSE women are models.... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #100

Again, what is your point? B2G Feb 2014 #105

the POINT IS that this is not a fashion magazine...nor should it be a Men's Magazine... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #118

Or any beach city for that matter. n/t A HERETIC I AM Feb 2014 #169

Neither does any photograph in history if you want to go that far Major Nikon Feb 2014 #160

You obviously don't know what athletes look like BainsBane Feb 2014 #141

yeah cause one has never dated athletes or played sports or even ogled athletes before loli phabay Feb 2014 #179

Those don't look like boy butts Yo_Mama Feb 2014 #19

How about a link to the photo in question? Coyotl Feb 2014 #21

It's also weird Bonobo Feb 2014 #23

What do we know? antiquie Feb 2014 #26

Exactly! Bonobo Feb 2014 #27

Disingenuous treestar Feb 2014 #124

shhh.. it's a favorite straw man (woman?) on DU eShirl Feb 2014 #131

Seems more like giving them the benefit of the doubt Major Nikon Feb 2014 #164

Disingenuous treestar Feb 2014 #182

Not just in the past Major Nikon Feb 2014 #187

The fashion industry treestar Feb 2014 #192

I haven't really seen much change Major Nikon Feb 2014 #202

The Swimsuit edition is just one of a million things treestar Feb 2014 #211

I'm not convinced the sexes are all that different in that regard Major Nikon Feb 2014 #214

And in those times and cultures pipoman Feb 2014 #188

There are stories about models using drugs treestar Feb 2014 #193

I'm not offended pipoman Feb 2014 #199

Oddly enough there are stories about athletes using drugs too Fumesucker Feb 2014 #228

lol pipoman Feb 2014 #229

Women who choose the right to do whatever polly7 Feb 2014 #150

They look like the asses of healthy adult women to me.. Upton Feb 2014 #28

Also, if those were boys, would they be grabbing each other's asses? Coyotl Feb 2014 #30

The guy who writes DListed calls it the cover of.. PassingFair Feb 2014 #117

Good one. More than a few doctors are groaning about the bonobo posturing. Coyotl Feb 2014 #120

in appearance it's like a (now-deceased, male) friend's spondylolithesis eShirl Feb 2014 #133

"healthy" adult women who have been photoshopped out of reality.. VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #59

I once had it explained to me by a very wise old woman. The_Commonist Feb 2014 #34

was this thesis based on methodical peer reviewed research or did this wise elder pull it out arely staircase Feb 2014 #39

Well, she spent her career in the advertising industry. The_Commonist Feb 2014 #48

That didn't really answer the question Shivering Jemmy Feb 2014 #79

You know, you guys are right. The_Commonist Feb 2014 #82

Sounds plausible to me; it is all about titillation, and all advertising is based on desire and fear Tom Ripley Feb 2014 #67

I think your reasoning was the basis for the ad that Don Draper Sheldon Cooper Feb 2014 #69

"At last, something beautiful you can truly own..." The_Commonist Feb 2014 #71

Yep. Sheldon Cooper Feb 2014 #72

She was pretty sharp treestar Feb 2014 #183

Wise woman? MattBaggins Feb 2014 #186

Yes, extremely wise. The_Commonist Feb 2014 #190

Gotta stand up for slender women this time. dawg Feb 2014 #35

Thank you, thank you! nt UtahLib Feb 2014 #51

They are thin...probably NOT naturally and they are photoshopped out of reality VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #60

I know that. But I also know real women who are that thin. dawg Feb 2014 #62

How much photoshop on that cover? Edim Feb 2014 #38

Enough that it could have come from the SomethingAwful forums n/t Scootaloo Feb 2014 #104

"prepubescent boys"? AgingAmerican Feb 2014 #41

This thread is a riot! B2G Feb 2014 #42

You're shining so brightly right now! Bonobo Feb 2014 #44

The hypocrisy is making my head spin B2G Feb 2014 #45

How do you explain the popularity Lonusca Feb 2014 #43

and she isn't starving herself but I BET she uses photoshop! VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #61

Photoshop! Desert805 Feb 2014 #74

Those athletic asses do NOT look like those... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #87

You have spent a lot of time Desert805 Feb 2014 #238

To make her butt look bigger? Lonusca Feb 2014 #111

Those butts are big? VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #116

I don't see how anyone could take you seriously. (nt) Inkfreak Feb 2014 #52

We breed for cuteness Generic Other Feb 2014 #54

Sometimes looking like a prepubescent boy can be an advantage HockeyMom Feb 2014 #63

Good for you. westerebus Feb 2014 #137

They're not my style. lumberjack_jeff Feb 2014 #65

So you're implying men are homosexual pedophiles? Vashta Nerada Feb 2014 #66

Since they're pretty, it's OK to objectify them B2G Feb 2014 #68

Being as the Swarm has faiied to show up with a heaping helping of adulation and multiple recs ... 11 Bravo Feb 2014 #70

Annoyed My Good Babushka Feb 2014 #73

This is what irritates me about these threads pipoman Feb 2014 #129

OMG I hear you Skittles Feb 2014 #154

I got the impression that they were trying to make their butts look bigger ecstatic Feb 2014 #75

Yeah, I don't get that. nt Deep13 Feb 2014 #76

I doubt it means they're attracted to little boys JonLP24 Feb 2014 #78

Have they always been exclusively caucasian? MADem Feb 2014 #80

I believe Tyra Banks has been on the cover B2G Feb 2014 #83

Poor woman got "the duty," eh? MADem Feb 2014 #96

And Beyonce B2G Feb 2014 #106

She was on the SI cover too? nt MADem Feb 2014 #121

yep Duckhunter935 Feb 2014 #126

Two women of color; fifty covers! MADem Feb 2014 #128

Bigot. Hosnon Feb 2014 #84

Nothing veiled about it. nt msanthrope Feb 2014 #139

I agree. Vashta Nerada Feb 2014 #173

Your "analysis" says more about you than SI cover Pretzel_Warrior Feb 2014 #85

rofl backwoodsbob Feb 2014 #92

I've known that for 35 years. I have ALWAYS had hips kestrel91316 Feb 2014 #95

Not My Cup of Tea Dirty Socialist Feb 2014 #119

That's more the fashion industry than SI. GoCubsGo Feb 2014 #135

What a creepy fucking thing to say. nt Union Scribe Feb 2014 #97

That's what I was thinking. nt RiffRandell Feb 2014 #102

The subjective was mistaken for the objective but that doesn't make it any less creepy. Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2014 #123

SI - 1890s edition Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2014 #101

Some women have asses like those on the cover. RiffRandell Feb 2014 #103

My daughter too B2G Feb 2014 #109

Good for her! RiffRandell Feb 2014 #113

Asian women have small asses. Calling them pre pubescent boys is hurtful. Bonobo Feb 2014 #122

Very, but not surprising. RiffRandell Feb 2014 #125

I know multiple adult women who are athletes who have what can be called small asses mythology Feb 2014 #107

A profoundly disturbing OP. Bluenorthwest Feb 2014 #108

So guys are attracted to women with asses like prepubescent boys? edbermac Feb 2014 #110

There's a lot of things I could say Scootaloo Feb 2014 #112

She's commenting on the marketplace BainsBane Feb 2014 #144

I guess a guy thing Duckhunter935 Feb 2014 #114

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2014 #115

That is your observation and comparison joeglow3 Feb 2014 #127

Body shaming isn't ok. Marr Feb 2014 #134

You missed the point entirely BainsBane Feb 2014 #142

I understood that was the point, but it was body shaming in it's tone nonetheless. Marr Feb 2014 #147

It's too bad SI doesn't agree BainsBane Feb 2014 #149

What does that have to do with saying a woman looks like a boy? /nt Marr Feb 2014 #152

You said were concerned about body shaming BainsBane Feb 2014 #156

I never said any of that. I said that saying a woman looks like a boy is body shaming. Marr Feb 2014 #236

No, they're definitely shaming women in this instance. Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #194

Heterosexuals will do heterosexual things. TheMathieu Feb 2014 #148

I'm continually amazed BainsBane Feb 2014 #163

It's a disgusting attack pintobean Feb 2014 #176

What mainstream publication has ever posed males in that position? n/t pnwmom Feb 2014 #166

Seriously, spend some time around the fashion industry Sen. Walter Sobchak Feb 2014 #177

I disagree. PeteSelman Feb 2014 #178

what a creepy statement about this cover and men in general. madrchsod Feb 2014 #180

What a disgusting op! B Calm Feb 2014 #181

I have only one thing to add to this thread NickB79 Feb 2014 #185

OH NO YOU DIDN'T Skittles Feb 2014 #205

My observation is that airbrushing and photoshop are an art. Cleita Feb 2014 #189

My market likes BACK and hips. TheKentuckian Feb 2014 #208

It tells me that a lot of men think their tastes and preferences are wholly their own LanternWaste Feb 2014 #209

Except for the people that have different tastes and blow the shit out of that theory. nt Bonobo Feb 2014 #210

Madison Avenue lurvs you... LanternWaste Feb 2014 #215

Not me, those SI models actually do ZERO for me. Zero. Bonobo Feb 2014 #217

bless your heart, no one will ever stop you from it. LanternWaste Feb 2014 #220

Sorry I am having trouble reading your disjointed writing. Bonobo Feb 2014 #222

Thank you 1000words Feb 2014 #223

Does Madison Avenue also dictate your preferences and tastes? Orrex Feb 2014 #244

Media no like booty Vattel Feb 2014 #212

...prepubescent boys??? Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #213

It's ironic the cover concept is that of passage of time 1000words Feb 2014 #216

me either, looks like 3 beautiful healthy atheletic women to me. Drew Richards Feb 2014 #243

Right, because nobody wants to see Jennifer Lopez on a magazine cover. edbermac Feb 2014 #225

I don't know if that is true since I haven't seen any asses of prepubescent boys. zappaman Feb 2014 #241