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Lizzie Poppet

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13. I have some questions about the study.

Sun Feb 16, 2014, 02:29 PM

Feb 2014

I'll have to look for the actual study (and more to the point, the actual data), as I have a few questions. In the main, I want to see if the bulk of the increase in homicide in SYG states occurred in cases where SYG was invoked and succeeded (that is, the homicide found to be justified), was invoked and failed (defendant was convicted), or wasn't invoked at all.

I'm also curious about the distribution between states that enacted SYG but formerly had "duty to retreat" laws and those that enacted SYG and in which the law was previously silent on that matter. My state, Oregon, has no explicit SYG law, but doesn't really need one: there's no "duty to retreat" here, as ruled by our Supreme Court.

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Kill At Will: Stand Your Ground Laws Contribute To 600 Additional Homicides A Year [View all] SecularMotion Feb 2014 OP

Freedumb pscot Feb 2014 #1

Shoot somebody or don't shoot somebody. They like their odds of getting off. onehandle Feb 2014 #2

I don't like my neighbor. DURHAM D Feb 2014 #3

Yes you can. But be prepared for the consequences of your actions. n/t oneshooter Feb 2014 #4

I was just standing my ground. DURHAM D Feb 2014 #5

Because SYG laws don't work that way. sked14 Feb 2014 #6

Would I need to live in Florida for it to work that way? DURHAM D Feb 2014 #7

Couldn't tell you, sked14 Feb 2014 #8

I don't see how. DURHAM D Feb 2014 #10

You would need to live in Florida and your neighbor could not be white etherealtruth Feb 2014 #9

But none of the neighbors like his music, his mustache or his guns. DURHAM D Feb 2014 #11

I am sorry it is not etherealtruth Feb 2014 #12

at least one juror on the Dunn case was hoping it worked out for him bettyellen Feb 2014 #17

You don't know that, sked14 Feb 2014 #19

They asked questions about ALSO applying self defense to the shots fired at those fleeing, bettyellen Feb 2014 #20

No, but you can tell him to turn his music down and defend yourself if attacked n/t Taitertots Feb 2014 #16

I have some questions about the study. Lizzie Poppet Feb 2014 #13

of course you do.... eom rbrnmw Feb 2014 #15

I am shocked. bettyellen Feb 2014 #22

Yeah, I'll bet you're going to get right on that..... llmart Feb 2014 #25

But that's why the Founders billh58 Feb 2014 #14

SYG ... napkinz Feb 2014 #18

"Kill At Will" toddwv Feb 2014 #21

This is now the third study I've seen come to the same or similar conclusions. DanTex Feb 2014 #23

K&R cinnabonbon Feb 2014 #24

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