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Comrade Grumpy

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25. I would think that a misogynist group would violate DU's TOS.

Sun Feb 16, 2014, 04:01 PM

Feb 2014

I suppose you are referring to the Men's Group (of which I am not a member or poster). Maybe you could have a word with Skinner about the existence of a misogynist group on a progressive web site. Or maybe your definition of misogynist is not the standard one.

And while I'm here, I gotta tell you I never heard of this "MRA" except on these gender wars thread here. I can't speak for other posters, but this whole "MRA talking points" thing seems like a canard. I'm sure such groups exist, but I don't spend my spare time scouring the dark corners of the interwebs looking for them. And the whole "talking points" thing is a bit of a diversion, isn't it? You can just say "talking points" and then you don't have to actually address whatever was said.

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Misogyny sucks...Misandry sucks... [View all] DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2014 OP

K & R rdharma Feb 2014 #1

I think we all need to be sensitive to objectifying people... DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2014 #3

Me too shenmue Feb 2014 #2

And, sometimes, the Internet sucks BeyondGeography Feb 2014 #4

I think the answer had something to do with apes BainsBane Feb 2014 #5

Isn't that preaching to the choir? DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2014 #6

depends on your definition of infested, I suppose. -- Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #7

No, this is not the choir. BainsBane Feb 2014 #8

"There is worse sexism here than I have ever encountered offline." OilemFirchen Feb 2014 #54

because only men can determine what sexism is BainsBane Feb 2014 #69

Speaking of sexism... OilemFirchen Feb 2014 #122

Am I wrong? BainsBane Feb 2014 #128

Your words: OilemFirchen Feb 2014 #129

So I'm right. BainsBane Feb 2014 #130

Right about what? OilemFirchen Feb 2014 #131

How about those commercials on T.V? S.A.M Feb 2014 #9

No, it's gender roles nonsense. NuclearDem Feb 2014 #13

After today, I think the choir is a little smaller than I once did kcr Feb 2014 #11

I missed the "Apes" kerfuffle DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2014 #14

OP objected to being compared to apes kcr Feb 2014 #18

Biology wasn't my forte...I liked the social sciences... DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2014 #20

You're making a distinction that does not exist Distant Quasar Feb 2014 #23

which tasks can they do better? hfojvt Feb 2014 #50

If you found yourself sitting alone in a jungle... Marr Feb 2014 #57

You're measuring their abilities by human standards Distant Quasar Feb 2014 #58

what is not worth taking seriously hfojvt Feb 2014 #91

"Superior" is a value judgment Distant Quasar Feb 2014 #120

Can you breathe underwater, run 50mph or see well in the dark? NuclearDem Feb 2014 #71

check, check, check hfojvt Feb 2014 #90

None of that changes the fact that there is no such thing as "more evolved" NuclearDem Feb 2014 #97

Speciatic Exceptionalism. Feral Child Feb 2014 #110

Bear... DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2014 #133

Touche' Feral Child Feb 2014 #150

they're gonna catch up - just you wait hfojvt Feb 2014 #51

"I don't think DU is infested with misogynists"... Infested? No, not at all... Ohio Joe Feb 2014 #19

I would think that a misogynist group would violate DU's TOS. Comrade Grumpy Feb 2014 #25

Oh... I have addressed their talking points directly many times Ohio Joe Feb 2014 #28

I think I recall something similar to what you're talking about. Comrade Grumpy Feb 2014 #34

ahhh yes... 'forcible rape'... Who is it now trying to seperate rape into terms like that? Ohio Joe Feb 2014 #52

"Consensual rape" sounds like an oxymoron. Comrade Grumpy Feb 2014 #64

Yes, it certainly does... Perhaps you should not put it in those terms. Ohio Joe Feb 2014 #67

Someone should. JTFrog Feb 2014 #86

"MRA" talking point sounds like "NRA" talking points... Eleanors38 Feb 2014 #108

If this is the choir, then the choir is singing off tune and needs practice gollygee Feb 2014 #56

So tell us, were the women on the SI cover not living, not breathing, and somehow not 3D? 11 Bravo Feb 2014 #24

Way to miss the point BainsBane Feb 2014 #26

Doubtless they will be thrilled to hear that "It's not about them as people". 11 Bravo Feb 2014 #31

So tell us, when was the last time a mainstream magazine -- or even DU -- featured a photo pnwmom Feb 2014 #95

Sexual dimorphism Feral Child Feb 2014 #112

wow. what an insulting post of passive aggressive, you emotionally hysterical woman you... lol. seabeyond Feb 2014 #114

Stream of consciousness. Feral Child Feb 2014 #132

no passive aggressive insulting here. oh noes!!11!!11!!!!!. arent you the "goddamn" man seabeyond Feb 2014 #134

Tedious. Feral Child Feb 2014 #152

Your reply is childish and anti-intelectual. NCTraveler Feb 2014 #136

+1 redqueen Feb 2014 #149

Bye-bye! Feral Child Feb 2014 #151

Soon my Feral friend, soon. nt. NCTraveler Feb 2014 #153

Whatever. Feral Child Feb 2014 #155

Aww. Twice in a row. NCTraveler Feb 2014 #158

+1. nt sufrommich Feb 2014 #156

Capitalist media is inherently biological? BainsBane Feb 2014 #117

biology compels men to look at mass market, digitally altered images... rather than perpetuating the seabeyond Feb 2014 #119

I've found that, in these matters, female members displace their anger toward, let's just say... WhaTHellsgoingonhere Feb 2014 #10

Oh no, there is sexism on the left and in the center. Lunacee_2013 Feb 2014 #39

understood WhaTHellsgoingonhere Feb 2014 #40

Well shit, that was easy. Lunacee_2013 Feb 2014 #89

LOL BainsBane Feb 2014 #121

When did the gender war begin here? progressoid Feb 2014 #12

Winner! CrispyQ Feb 2014 #154

by the way, misandry is acceptable WhaTHellsgoingonhere Feb 2014 #15

They have this mens group which supposedly battles misandry DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2014 #16

Yeah, but you're more level headed well grounded than a lot of us WhaTHellsgoingonhere Feb 2014 #17

No it's not. NuclearDem Feb 2014 #30

of course it's not acceptable, broadly speaking, but at DU? WhaTHellsgoingonhere Feb 2014 #32

All that "misandry" comprises of is the stupid gender roles pushed by men backfiring. NuclearDem Feb 2014 #33

so that gives women license to tee-off WhaTHellsgoingonhere Feb 2014 #36

Ugh. NuclearDem Feb 2014 #44

ugh... WhaTHellsgoingonhere Feb 2014 #47

as a matter of fact, seabeyond is the only woman I've seen... WhaTHellsgoingonhere Feb 2014 #37

Would you demand that of other minorities as well? NuclearDem Feb 2014 #46

where did I say demand? WhaTHellsgoingonhere Feb 2014 #48

Then what the hell was your point? NuclearDem Feb 2014 #53

doors.* Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #75

I'VE HAD IT WITH MEN!!! Skittles Feb 2014 #81

Oh YOU. NuclearDem Feb 2014 #87

There are a few others Major Nikon Feb 2014 #92

That was perfectly worded and to the point. WhaTHellsgoingonhere Feb 2014 #113

Not even close. Isn't even close enough to see the parking lot where that league plays. Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #63

Agreed..... Ichingcarpenter Feb 2014 #21

Especially since misandry is such a huge social problem and causes kestrel91316 Feb 2014 #22

example #1 WhaTHellsgoingonhere Feb 2014 #27

Fuck all misogynists on DU and in the greater world. kestrel91316 Feb 2014 #66

To be fair Nevernose Feb 2014 #49

Nothing to see here... move along lumberjack_jeff Feb 2014 #60

sure just like racism and reverse racism both suck nt geek tragedy Feb 2014 #29

There is theKed Feb 2014 #93

it's about as common as 'misandry' nt geek tragedy Feb 2014 #157

You misunderstand theKed Feb 2014 #161

Exactly! Why is this so hard to understand for a certain few? AverageJoe90 Feb 2014 #164

Misandry is a figment of the imagination of neckbeards on the internet. LeftyMom Feb 2014 #35

+ a bazillion TDale313 Feb 2014 #38

OK, what word is acceptable to you? WhaTHellsgoingonhere Feb 2014 #42

How about "it's not a thing" NuclearDem Feb 2014 #55

So no one on earth irrationally hates men? n/t Kurska Feb 2014 #79

Not enough for it to be even worth noticing. NuclearDem Feb 2014 #84

Institutional prejudice is a very real problem, that is true. AverageJoe90 Feb 2014 #115

some of you are playing games with semantics because you don't WhaTHellsgoingonhere Feb 2014 #45

good grief... WhaTHellsgoingonhere Feb 2014 #41

Your posts serve as exhibit #1 to the contrary. n/t lumberjack_jeff Feb 2014 #59

Impatience with stupidity is oppression now? LeftyMom Feb 2014 #62

There are a myriad of socio-economic standards in which men do worse. mythology Feb 2014 #77

Almost all of the bad outcomes for men can be traced back to patriarchal expectations. LeftyMom Feb 2014 #78

Fuckin' A XemaSab Feb 2014 #80

+1 myrna minx Feb 2014 #160

That much is true, sadly. nt AverageJoe90 Feb 2014 #166

Tell that to my brother going through a custody dispute Nanjing to Seoul Feb 2014 #73

I suppose I'll do that right after I go tell my dad he didn't raise two kids on his own. LeftyMom Feb 2014 #76

Google is spotty and unresponsive in China, as is yahoo many times. Nanjing to Seoul Feb 2014 #88

It's a synonym for a nerdy guy./NT DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2014 #124

We never had to register for the draft. eShirl Feb 2014 #107

Phew! Do you serve bad fried chicken, too? Eleanors38 Feb 2014 #111

I think this joke fits right in here. Auntie Bush Feb 2014 #43

The title of your OP implies a false equivalency, and that's a big part of the problem. n/t Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #61

I think reacting to folks based on their immutable characteristics is fucked up.... DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2014 #65

Misandry is a dumb false equivalence. NuclearDem Feb 2014 #85

Since when were women ever blamed for anything? Major Nikon Feb 2014 #94

Of course it doesn't make sense. NuclearDem Feb 2014 #98

Then why do you do it? Major Nikon Feb 2014 #100

It's a very foundational element of fascism and nationalism. NuclearDem Feb 2014 #101

So you acknowledge the idea of the patriarchy as a conspiracy theory is stupid Major Nikon Feb 2014 #102

We've had a miscommunication here, my fault. NuclearDem Feb 2014 #103

It most certainly is a thing Major Nikon Feb 2014 #104

Alright, perhaps "blame" isn't the right word. NuclearDem Feb 2014 #109

So if a male feels beset upon for being a male we shouldn't have empathy for his plight?/NT DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2014 #105

No sensible feminist or human being in general is trying to make a man feel bad for being a man. NuclearDem Feb 2014 #106

So there are no problems that attach to being male... DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2014 #116

And 99% of feminists don't. AverageJoe90 Feb 2014 #165

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And "Reverse racism" doesn't actually exist because..... AverageJoe90 Feb 2014 #162

I've been on DU faithfully since 2001 deutsey Feb 2014 #68

Misogyny is THICK in the Republican party... yuiyoshida Feb 2014 #70

It's acceptable to shoot men to shit. Look at what my brother's psycho ex-wife is doing to Nanjing to Seoul Feb 2014 #72

when did it stop? Texasgal Feb 2014 #74

Bashing anyone based on their gender is wrong davidpdx Feb 2014 #82

Discrimination is wrong, but some of it needs to be called out more often than others. alp227 Feb 2014 #83

Why is a serious question like this flame bait? Why was the first SI photo post NOT flame bait? pnwmom Feb 2014 #96

"old DU" DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2014 #123

Demographic wars are the bread and butter of successful politics. CFLDem Feb 2014 #99

"A plague on both your houses" in politics is usually lazy thinking, frankly Recursion Feb 2014 #118

I empathize with anybody who feels oppressed. I really haven't established a hierarchy of oppression. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2014 #125

The white college students holding reverse-affirmative action bake sales? redqueen Feb 2014 #135

That's a reductio ad absurdum. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2014 #137

Nope it's a direct analogy. redqueen Feb 2014 #138

You show an amazing lack of empathy./NT DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2014 #139

Here's a suggestion: Do a search and find the forums where lots of people are on board redqueen Feb 2014 #141

Wow..."My hurt is real...Your hurt isn't real..." sounds callous to me. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2014 #142

You seem to be insisting on conflating oppression with other issues. nt redqueen Feb 2014 #143

If the end result is ruination for the individual, does it matter?/NT DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2014 #144

When you're trying to invent new forms of oppression (i.e. "misandry")? redqueen Feb 2014 #145

If society is holding men to standards that are killing them to meet... DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2014 #146

And there's the rub. Feminists are challenging those standards. redqueen Feb 2014 #147

I tend to oppose strict gender roles/NT DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2014 #148

"who think racism against white people is actually a thing." Unfortunately, it kinda *is*........... AverageJoe90 Feb 2014 #163

Exactly right. nt. polly7 Feb 2014 #140

Not many recs Harmony Blue Feb 2014 #126

While I agree... 1awake Feb 2014 #159

LOL. nt La Lioness Priyanka Feb 2014 #167