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In reply to the discussion: My Music is Not a Weapon [View all]TorchTheWitch
(11,065 posts)I've not made any argument about that his being a racist. There is no doubt that he is. That doesn't mean that the REASON he shot at those kids was because they were black. That's ridiculous on its face. Unlike most people here I've also seen all of the actual trial as well as a long interview with two of Dunn's previous long time next door neighbors. There's no question that the REASON he shot at those boys was not because they were black but because one of them defied him and talked back to him. He would have done the same thing had they been white and all other circumstances were the same. He became enraged, lost control of himself and went for his gun which was exactly his personality and exactly why his neighbors who knew him well were unsurprised and knew that at some time in the future he was going to shoot someone... not necessarily a black someone or a brown someone but ANYONE who got stuck in a confrontation with him and it being the straw that broke the camel's back when Dunn finally lost control just as those people that knew him like his two neighbors predicted.
Zimmerman is also a racist. But the REASON he shot Martin was not because he was black. He profiled and followed Martin mostly because he was black but also because of his youth and his attire. Had Martin been black, older and wearing a coat and tie carrying an umbrella would he have profiled and followed him? No. And he wouldn't have because although this fictitious person was black in other ways he did not fit the profile of a person Zimmerman was hunting for. Zimmerman shot Martin not because he was black but because Martin was terrified of him (for good reason) and when confronted by him stood his ground and fought back which would have scared the shit out of Zimmerman. No one here has ever believed that Zimmerman would have gotten out of his car and followed Martin if he didn't have his gun muscles. Zimmerman is also one of those people that are made bold by having a gun, go looking to get into altercations with people because of those gun muscles and he also lost control and shot someone. But he didn't kill Martin BECAUSE he was black. There is far more reason to assign racism to Zimmerman in that case than there is against Dunn in this case because there is EVIDENCE that shows that he chose to follow Martin and confront him because he profiled him as a "bad guy" mostly because of his race. There is NO actual EVIDENCE in the Dunn case that the REASON he shot at those boys was because they were black. Yes, he is a racist and believes that black people are beneath him, but he also believes that EVERYONE is beneath him regardless of their race or age or gender or intelligence or anything else.
Dunn didn't shoot them because they were playing loud music either. The music was simply the reason that Dunn used to start an altercation with them. It was not the music that made him so enraged and lose control it was because Davis talked back to him and told Tevin to turn the music back on which Tevin did though not as loud (which they had every right to do though it wasn't the best mannerly thing to do). Had Dunn started this altercation about the music and no one in the car talked back to him and the music was turned down Dunn would have been satisfied and congratulating himself of his believed superiority. It was the fact that Davis talked back to him that so enraged Dunn that he finally lost control and why Dunn first aimed his gun at HIM though the other kids in the car were just as black. And none of it had shit in shinola to do with any of the kids being black. He would have considered them "thugs" if they were white and playing the same kind of music and wearing the same kind of clothes just as so many people do where I live and when the vast majority of the sort of teenagers that dress in hoodies and baggy pants, listen to loud rap music, ride around in vehicles with tinted windows, talk with a lot of four-letter words, etc. are white.
It really annoys me that every black victim at the hands of a white person is claimed to be because of racism when it isn't. It's almost always a lot more complicated than that, and in the Dunn case it had nothing to do with the reason he shot at those boys despite him being a racist and why it never came up in court and shouldn't have. Go watch the trial yourself. The evidence as to the reason why Dunn shot at those boys is clear, and clearly not because Dunn is a racist. Sorry that it's contrary to what you and obviously so many others here want to believe.
Prosecutor Guy in his rebuttal closing argument used the line that so many other attorneys have used - "The survivors deserve respect and the dead deserve the truth." And I emphatically disagree. BOTH the survivors and the dead deserve respect and BOTH deserve the truth. It is a terrible disservice to the surviving boys in that car, their families and friends, Davis and his family and friends to tell them the truth is something that it isn't and only what you want to believe that it is. Those boys and their families and friends know what the truth is and know they weren't shot at simply because they were black. They know they came across a crazy man with a gun who was incapable of controlling himself, not just a racist with a gun looking to pick off black people. The surviving boys in that car LIVED that horrible experience, are re-living it now and will continue to live it for the rest of their lives. It really pisses me off to so disrespect them as to warp the truth into something you want it to be rather than what THEY KNOW it to be and exactly what the evidence showed it to be.