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hughee99

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34. Absolutely, because workers never get screwed out of their pensions,

Reply to Fred Sanders (Reply #22)

Sun Feb 16, 2014, 07:23 PM

Feb 2014

And pension funds never invest in the markets.

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Absolutely, because workers never get screwed out of their pensions, hughee99 Feb 2014 #34

Pension funds may be managed in defined benefit plans by an elected, independent board Fred Sanders Feb 2014 #41

Stocks are a casino, and real estate investments are also no guarantee. hughee99 Feb 2014 #43

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