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Adrahil

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39. eternal? no... but with technology and proper environmental conservation....

Sun Feb 16, 2014, 09:09 PM

Feb 2014

the planet can support probably 2-3 times the current population, and at a higher standard of living. That's a LOT of market growth.

I do agree that a growth-based plan is ultimately doomed. And since capital markets depend upon growth, that will have to change. But there remains lots of room for market growth in the short term. The REAL challenge will be growing markets without trashing the planet or destroying the market by impoverishing consumers.

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