Hey women

[RainDog]

631. He said that humans are animals

primates, in particular, and, even more closely, we are apes who share most of our DNA with bonobos. He was NOT trying to say that women are comparable to animals. He was trying to say that his sexual desire is such that he finds comfort in comparing the sensation to an animal - and, the important part, he was trying to say it's part of het male interest to look at sexually attractive (and that has a wide range of what's attractive) images. I'm a female, but sometimes I take comfort in comparing sexual desire to something more primal, not cultural. I take comfort, so to say, to acknowledge that my passion may not be rational, but it's there sometimes in a certain situation.

I think that's what he meant to say as well, but did so clumsily because this is a fight over sharing space on this internet board, and how to do so. boston bean's response was equally clumsy because there was no context, so people naturally responded to the actual post here - who weren't clued in to the outrage du jour.

I have a friend in this field and also did some work related to it long ago - to say - bonobos arguments are not so different than Owen Lovejoy's, of long ago, and maybe even now... I don't keep up with what he's saying. Women primatologists have studied infanticide in hymadryas baboons too, for instance - and killing infants is a reproductive strategy for male orangs. Violence, in that species, is sometimes related to sexual success (as in, passing along DNA.) This finding has not been disputed. It's not evo psyche for some to ponder if violence is related to sexual jealousy, or to ask if sexual jealousy is fear of not knowing paternity, etc.

He NEVER said a word about males dominating females. He used the example of the bonobo - and he knows that female bonobos are not dominated by males (at least my understanding is that he knows this.)

It's the women on this thread have made all those statements - but he didn't.

The reason the women are making this statement is they feel like another woman posting an SI cover here, with men commenting on the attractiveness of the people on the cover, is an attempt to dominate. He is saying... I'm not attempting to dominate, I just don't feel like it's a big deal to post the cover of a magazine that everyone here can see when they are in multiple stores of various kinds. I mean the cover was greeted with "Egads! Horrendous!" even. LOL. whatever. what a waste of mental space, to me. to each her own.

The reason I find this argument sort of silly, as a female, is because there are many threads here that I don't participate on b/c I either disagree or am not informed enough or am not interested in a topic. I don't take that thread to mean that anyone is trying to dominate me. Yet multiple women here have decided that anything posted by certain people is meant to be an attack on them. You all keep the board lively, that's for sure.