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In reply to the discussion: Arkansas homeowner shoots at teens egging his car, killing 15 year old girl in the process [View all]Gothmog
(179,822 posts)109. In Texas, this murder would be legal under Texas law
Back when I was in law school, it was clear that use of deadly force was never justified to protect property. The NRA and ALEC has changed this law and now it is legal to use deadly force to protect property http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/07/24/2345901/three-self-defense-laws-that-could-be-even-worse-than-stand-your-ground/
Texas: Deadly Force In Defense Of Personal Property.
Stand Your Ground laws authorize deadly force not just when an individual has reasonable fear of death; but also for fear of great bodily harm or a forcible felony. In many states, these provisions are potentially authorizing disproportionate force in response to a fear of crimes as low-level as third-degree assault or robbery. But even these crimes involve injury to a person.
Texas is different. In Texas, one can use deadly force not just to protect a person, but also to protect personal property, including to retrieve stolen property at night, during criminal mischief in the nighttime and even to prevent someone who is fleeing immediately after a theft during the night or a burglary or robbery, so long as the individual reasonably thinks the property cannot be protected by other means. This law recently garnered attention when lawyers used the provision to defend a man acquitted in the deadly shooting of an escort who refused to have sex with him. In other cases, the law has been the basis for not pressing charges against individuals who shoot and kill suspected car burglars, and an individual suspected of stealing copper wiring from a car. It is worth noting that some other states authorize the use of force to protect personal property, but not deadly force.
The shooter in this case should have murdered the young lady in Texas where he would have gotten off.
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Arkansas homeowner shoots at teens egging his car, killing 15 year old girl in the process [View all]
fried eggs
Feb 2014
OP
Because trauma centers know more about how to save shooting victims now. When they don't die,
laundry_queen
Feb 2014
#110
Name 10 democrats willing to propose this. Much less 200. Make believe is fun. n-t
Logical
Feb 2014
#115
No, just people like you throw out ideas that will never happen. But if it....
Logical
Feb 2014
#139
A small price to pay so that gun-proliferation can remain unchecked in this great country!
villager
Feb 2014
#2
I'd bet my wallet you thought you knew the ethnicity of the shooter too.
cherokeeprogressive
Feb 2014
#18
Two Florida juiries have shown someone can kill African Americans and get away with it
BainsBane
Feb 2014
#27
Dunn certaintly didn't get away with it.. and when he's treid for murder one he could lose on that,
dionysus
Feb 2014
#85
If I were a juror, I could see convicting him on 2nd degree but probably not on 1st degree. nt
Electric Monk
Feb 2014
#32
Egging cars, TPing, soaping windows...all something I bet we've done at least once.
Drunken Irishman
Feb 2014
#34
Eh. . .he was just standing his ground and if the girl didn't want to die, she wouldn't have been
Nanjing to Seoul
Feb 2014
#35
Then please give me more insights on humorous delivery, oh comedic sage.
Nanjing to Seoul
Feb 2014
#134
Why the fuck can't people just call the cops??? What about calling the parent--or guardian?
mnhtnbb
Feb 2014
#51
Why is shooting kids suddenly the preferred method of dealing with annoyances?
Kablooie
Feb 2014
#40
I think you're going to see a pretty huge dichotomy of reactions to this case...
regnaD kciN
Feb 2014
#89