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Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
11. That's not Catholic doctrine
Mon Feb 17, 2014, 06:34 PM
Feb 2014

If it had been Last Unction, I think they get to bend the rules. But if it's just Anointing of the Sick:
http://catholicism.about.com/od/beliefsteachings/p/Sac_Anointing.htm

Received in faith and in a state of grace, the Sacrament of the Anointing of the Sick provides the recipient with a number of graces, including the fortitude to resist temptation in the face of death, when he is weakest; a union with the Passion of Christ, which makes his suffering holy; and the grace to prepare for death, so that he may meet God in hope rather than in fear. If the recipient was not able to receive the Sacrament of Confession, Anointing also provides forgiveness of sins. And, if it will aid in the salvation of his soul, Anointing may restore the recipient's health.


When it's not possible to confess (Sacrament of Penance), Anointing is supposed to accomplish the same thing, but it only works if the recipient is in a state of grace and has repented sins.

I think they are allowed to presume that if the patient is in extremis, but not in a case like this.

And Catholics are supposed to believe not only that Communion has to be taken in a state of grace, but that if you do take Communion when you are not in a state of grace, it may be a cause of damnation, which is why priests aren't supposed to give Communion if they know you are not in a state of grace.

So in theory according to Catholic doctrine, if this guy had been near his last breath and unable to speak, the priest could administer Last Unction and Viaticum, but otherwise he has to do it right to make it work at all.

Which is why the priest the man called after getting out of the hospital told him the chaplain was right.

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I wouldn't be surprised gopiscrap Feb 2014 #1
Uh-oh, someone needs to call the bishop shenmue Feb 2014 #2
Assholes need to get thier priorities straight. NCTraveler Feb 2014 #3
Perhaps someone could explain this to me. LiberalAndProud Feb 2014 #4
Sorry, but I have to say no shenmue Feb 2014 #7
The current Pope has also called same sex marriage 'a destructive attack on Bluenorthwest Feb 2014 #8
What I am doing? shenmue Feb 2014 #9
I will back you on this rurallib Feb 2014 #27
Thank you. shenmue Feb 2014 #28
No. hunter Feb 2014 #10
This doesn't smell right. rug Feb 2014 #5
I think this is pretty self explanatory. William769 Feb 2014 #6
That's not surprising but the Hospital couldn't confirm or deny the report either. rug Feb 2014 #12
That's not Catholic doctrine Yo_Mama Feb 2014 #11
It's no longer called Extreme Unction; it is called the Anointing of the Sick now. rug Feb 2014 #13
You're right, being gay is not a sin Yo_Mama Feb 2014 #14
I wouldn't ask him about wet dreams . . . . rug Feb 2014 #15
The priest? Yo_Mama Feb 2014 #26
Unction (or Last Rites) includes Drahthaardogs Feb 2014 #21
There is only one sacrament, and it is the same whether given during the course pnwmom Feb 2014 #25
This smacks of bullshit to me. badtoworse Feb 2014 #16
Really? You find that so hard to believe? theHandpuppet Feb 2014 #20
Your cite is about legitimizing gay marriage badtoworse Feb 2014 #29
I think you missed the point of my post theHandpuppet Feb 2014 #30
when my uncle was on his deathbed, my aunt ( nun) performed last rites. an hour later, a priest bettyellen Feb 2014 #17
A nun cannot administer last rites Drahthaardogs Feb 2014 #19
well, despite being a Catholic, my Aunt ignored lots of their more sexist rules and felt they were bettyellen Feb 2014 #22
I agree with you and I have an aunt who is a nun as well, but... Drahthaardogs Feb 2014 #23
all my 12 years in school, there were always nuns and priests skirting canon law, always bettyellen Feb 2014 #24
Journalist does not even know that the Drahthaardogs Feb 2014 #18
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