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92. I see you dropped capitalism from your little ditty. n/t

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Mon Feb 17, 2014, 08:34 PM

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Okay, I admit it. There is no evolutionary component to sexual attraction. [View all] Bonobo Feb 2014 OP

Psst!! Bonobo.... yuiyoshida Feb 2014 #1

very pretty. loli phabay Feb 2014 #2

Ironically that video is blocked in Japan. I can't watch it. Bonobo Feb 2014 #3

BOA KWON yuiyoshida Feb 2014 #6

I think the non American version of the video was better Paulie Feb 2014 #39

Omg,. yuiyoshida Feb 2014 #45

I'm not disagreeing. But why make the American version for the same song? Paulie Feb 2014 #47

okay...I will play. This is what an Asian Superstar sounds like. yuiyoshida Feb 2014 #50

Her voice has clearly been photoshopped. A HERETIC I AM Feb 2014 #79

Thanks! Paulie Feb 2014 #90

That other video was blocked for me, too Art_from_Ark Feb 2014 #86

Apeman Bonobo Feb 2014 #5

Heh, cool... yuiyoshida Feb 2014 #10

Love the kinks and love that song. lumberjack_jeff Feb 2014 #102

Whoa. I'm embarassed to say I know nothing about this artist ProudToBeBlueInRhody Feb 2014 #53

See post #50 yuiyoshida Feb 2014 #55

Well, the songs she does choose to sing in English are just fine ProudToBeBlueInRhody Feb 2014 #57

Agreed...and as I said.. yuiyoshida Feb 2014 #59

I'm completely unfamiliar with the backstory of this OP... mike_c Feb 2014 #4

i am scratching both my head and my armpit at the same time. loli phabay Feb 2014 #11

+1 n/t Silent3 Feb 2014 #25

For the win!! westerebus Feb 2014 #28

STOP IT LOLI PHABAY OR I WILL TAKE MY HEART BACK Skittles Feb 2014 #34

no the rules are that once i have your heart you will never get it back loli phabay Feb 2014 #36

awwwwwww Skittles Feb 2014 #73

lol Renew Deal Feb 2014 #52

DU came down with a case of Scopes Monkey Trial this afternoon. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2014 #15

LOL-- I thought that was pretty much settled nearly a century ago.... mike_c Feb 2014 #17

Not on DU! This place is mostly awesome but sometimes you just neverforget Feb 2014 #112

That's accurate. Agschmid Feb 2014 #31

Creationists on DU? pokerfan Feb 2014 #42

Hilarious. Feral Child Feb 2014 #156

You certainly got comfortable lobbing personal insults sufrommich Feb 2014 #158

You'd have to wade through the threads about the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit issue cover... JHB Feb 2014 #43

ROFL malaise Feb 2014 #7

... chrisa Feb 2014 #8

Nice, but it usually goes more like this... temporary311 Feb 2014 #29

Or this... bluedigger Feb 2014 #35

Or this.... MADem Feb 2014 #130

Unfortunately, there are some dense, anti-science loons on the left too. TheMathieu Feb 2014 #9

Oh yeah? Then why is my husband always asking if I want to monkey around? n/t Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2014 #12

lol, the funky monkey as they say. loli phabay Feb 2014 #13

Jeebus made us all the exact same and the devil made us like sex The Straight Story Feb 2014 #14

What does this have to do with prepubescent butts? JVS Feb 2014 #16

"Women may prefer masculine men during ovulation" TheMathieu Feb 2014 #18

1999 called. This was a Time story with the guy from Ally McBeal as the photo Recursion Feb 2014 #27

Maybe a better statement of sarcasm would be to say RainDog Feb 2014 #19

The times humans are LEAST "self-reflective"... Bonobo Feb 2014 #20

Nevertheless RainDog Feb 2014 #21

"Scavenging beasts" That pretty much describes the 0.01% Fumesucker Feb 2014 #40

The stork eliminated any need for sexual attraction. pintobean Feb 2014 #22

Oh I friggin' loved that one! Thanks! nt Bonobo Feb 2014 #23

The Protestant view pokerfan Feb 2014 #44

Is it possible to say that humans find certain attributes of other humans "attractive"? Renew Deal Feb 2014 #24

What's demeaning about being connected to other primates? Silent3 Feb 2014 #30

Welcome back to DU joeglow3 Feb 2014 #113

To be accused is to be guilty, so you might as well accept it. Silent3 Feb 2014 #114

blame it on the women reddread Feb 2014 #66

you we are still apes, right? and there isn't anything demeaning arely staircase Feb 2014 #67

It is demeaning to women to compare them to animals in the wild that can't think beyond alpha male Renew Deal Feb 2014 #72

humans are apes nt arely staircase Feb 2014 #75

Post removed Post removed Feb 2014 #77

everything I do is like an ape arely staircase Feb 2014 #78

+1. Laelth Feb 2014 #89

Right, just chemistry. elleng Feb 2014 #26

You need to go to the local High School and watch the mating dance. proudretiredvet Feb 2014 #32

Yeah, some people also think that PIV intercourse is "unnatural" and a "cultural creation" Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #33

Warren's got better things to do... RainDog Feb 2014 #48

I'm never too busy for your musical selections. Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #51

Are you watching True Detective? RainDog Feb 2014 #54

Nice, and yeah, totally. Been engrossed in it. Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #56

Yeah. The Prez has good taste. RainDog Feb 2014 #58

Yep. Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #61

I feel like I'm horror-genre deprived RainDog Feb 2014 #63

I never read any of that stuff, either. Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #64

I've read older stuff - Arthur Machen RainDog Feb 2014 #68

True Detective is great. I am enjoying Black Sails also. nt Bonobo Feb 2014 #98

I've never seen Black Sails RainDog Feb 2014 #103

Of course sexuality has an evolutionary component. NuclearDem Feb 2014 #37

There may be more to human life than survival at all costs, but only because The2ndWheel Feb 2014 #41

What you just said. nt laundry_queen Feb 2014 #119

Straw man FreeJoe Feb 2014 #38

Watch out for those strawmen - sometimes they gang up on you. nt el_bryanto Feb 2014 #46

I imagine there are as many who deny the evolutionary aspect... LanternWaste Feb 2014 #49

Well, my zoology teacher said apes and humans are of the order of primates. Cleita Feb 2014 #60

in other words:boys will be boys. how convenient. i think women need to get in on TheFrenchRazor Feb 2014 #62

Just because humans-both male and female respond to programmed triggers hobbit709 Feb 2014 #65

That's precisely the rationalization being made... LanternWaste Feb 2014 #81

That's what it sounds like to me too. nt laundry_queen Feb 2014 #120

...sex is the most awful, filthy thing on earth and you should save it for someone you love. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2014 #69

Other animals may go on instinct but humans have brains treestar Feb 2014 #70

Even if there is an evolutionary component, that doesn't mean it's ethical. Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #71

Human Exceptionalism nadinbrzezinski Feb 2014 #74

+1 Agreed Harmony Blue Feb 2014 #76

I read on DU that "evil is a uniquely human trait" .... Precisely the type of DU-fosity I have no Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #80

and people aren't apes because that is demeaning to women arely staircase Feb 2014 #82

Anyone who doesn't understand that people are primates Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #97

I think some people (apes) who know better got out on a limb arely staircase Feb 2014 #161

I'm an avid reader and fan of Goodall's LanternWaste Feb 2014 #83

That you would ask shows you have not looked into the issue. Bonobo Feb 2014 #87

I'm calling bullshit on the idea that "The Universe was perfectly 'good' and 'natural' until modern Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #95

Evil would be a uniquely human concept The2ndWheel Feb 2014 #85

Concept, yes, perhaps. Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #93

It's just a big genetic crap shoot Blue Owl Feb 2014 #84

k&r for the effective use of irony. n/t Laelth Feb 2014 #88

But then why are you attracted to women whose body fat is so low they are infertile? BrotherIvan Feb 2014 #91

Great question! Bonobo Feb 2014 #94

The women on the SI cover are not so thin as to be infertile. Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #99

Athletes and models often stop menstruating BrotherIvan Feb 2014 #107

Do you think it is possible for, say, religious fundamentalists to "reprogram" Gay people? Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #108

I think we're talking about different things BrotherIvan Feb 2014 #111

I just find it ridiculous how often I hear that other people are brainwashed and programmed Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #116

I think I made a pretty good argument. I even had pictures! BrotherIvan Feb 2014 #117

I also think there are a lot of common assumptions that are accepted as fact, here. Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #118

According to who? kcr Feb 2014 #121

That's not a "fact", it's speculation, and for every Marilyn there was a Twiggy. Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #123

Fact. Fact, fact, fact. kcr Feb 2014 #124

No, one based on spurious associations. Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #125

I'm afraid that claiming facts are spurious associations doesn't make it so kcr Feb 2014 #128

That's ironic, you realize it, right? Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #132

Not as a model, for certain, unless she went plus sized. kcr Feb 2014 #134

Jezebel does not think that argument is a slam-dunk, it would seem. Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #136

That doesn't refute anything I said. kcr Feb 2014 #137

It certainly seems to put the kabosh on the favored narrative, i.e. a linear and spooky/ominous Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #138

It's not new. But it is much more extreme and more narrowly defined. kcr Feb 2014 #139

You claim fact, I claim commonly accepted wisdom backed up by stuff like anecdote. Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #140

But the purpose isn't to get people to lose weight kcr Feb 2014 #142

Yes, and part of the context of those ads is meta-ironic commentary Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #145

And they do it because it works kcr Feb 2014 #146

Then why are people on average gaining weight, instead of getting thinner? Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #149

Oh, my.. opiate69 Feb 2014 #126

No. I pounded my fist. kcr Feb 2014 #129

Maybe, just as frogmarch Feb 2014 #100

I'm unconvinced that the modeling industry targets men's aesthetic. lumberjack_jeff Feb 2014 #105

I hear what you are saying, but I hope you understand the fatigue women have at having BrotherIvan Feb 2014 #109

One of the women on the cover has an 18 month old child. tammywammy Feb 2014 #106

Uh um ah Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #127

I'm not. Neither is any man I know. redgreenandblue Feb 2014 #148

Women who look like that are unattractive to most men AgingAmerican Feb 2014 #157

What I'm trying to say, and it seems like most are willfully missing BrotherIvan Feb 2014 #159

I see you dropped capitalism from your little ditty. n/t R B Garr Feb 2014 #92

Not at all. Bonobo Feb 2014 #96

But in your second OP, you mocked that very thing ("media driven cultural phenomenon") R B Garr Feb 2014 #101

Sorry if things are too complex Bonobo Feb 2014 #104

Yes, they are so complicated, you needed two threads. R B Garr Feb 2014 #131

No more so than the person who started a 2nd thread to continue the conversation Major Nikon Feb 2014 #147

I like apes Vattel Feb 2014 #110

Nah, you're truly a victim of reproductive biological imperative Tsiyu Feb 2014 #115

Perfect. nt laundry_queen Feb 2014 #122

I'm Ba-a-a-a-a-a-ck! Tsiyu Feb 2014 #150

LOL, thanks for this. You put more thought into this than the OP, R B Garr Feb 2014 #135

It's a line of reasoning I formulated Tsiyu Feb 2014 #151

what about the woman who eats in front of tv and people pay to watch? RainDog Feb 2014 #141

What about it? Tsiyu Feb 2014 #153

The obvious difference is it's the fellow over at BK that's getting all red assed about your impulse Major Nikon Feb 2014 #143

No, what I do at BK Tsiyu Feb 2014 #154

This is truly a beautiful post to behold. sufrommich Feb 2014 #152

Why, thank you Tsiyu Feb 2014 #155

+++++++ Starry Messenger Feb 2014 #160

Congratulations, you have successfully destroyed a strawman of your own making YoungDemCA Feb 2014 #133

Modern mating rituals are certainly a media creation. joshcryer Feb 2014 #144