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Major Nikon

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20. It's even less than useless. It's counterproductive to society.

Tue Feb 18, 2014, 10:28 AM

Feb 2014

The death penalty would be bad enough if it were simply useless. It's far worse than that.

The extra expenses involved in putting someone to death means less resources for other things. Flaws in our justice system guarantee that eventually innocent people will be put to death. Disparate application of the death penalty among certain classes insures unethical discrimination. The emotional impact to victims drug through the process is greater than the alternative. Innocent family members of convicts lose a loved one.

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Another Death Penalty Poll - if you could be sure of guilt or innocence would you support the DP? [View all] el_bryanto Feb 2014 OP

Not for any reason, I find the death penalty to be barbaric. RGinNJ Feb 2014 #1

I honestly pipi_k Feb 2014 #2

Never understood what the death penalty is supposed to accomplish mokawanis Feb 2014 #3

It's to remove someone from society, permanently ....... oldhippie Feb 2014 #6

LOL, you know death penatly cases cost more than lifetime.... Logical Feb 2014 #9

Yes, I know that .... oldhippie Feb 2014 #11

But you fucking said "it's pretty simple really" when you were flat out..... Logical Feb 2014 #12

What is pretty simple was ..... oldhippie Feb 2014 #14

Your reason doesn't make much sense and the your remedy makes even less sense Major Nikon Feb 2014 #15

I'm sure it doesn't make sense to many .... oldhippie Feb 2014 #17

"I'm sure it doesn't make sense to many who are of the opposite opinion. " Major Nikon Feb 2014 #22

I sense that we will not come to any agreement .... oldhippie Feb 2014 #27

The reason you stated was 100% wrong! It would save no money..... Logical Feb 2014 #44

I think I understand where you are coming from ...... oldhippie Feb 2014 #45

Easily remedied how? Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2014 #23

Legislation and court decisions, ...... oldhippie Feb 2014 #30

Again, I don't want to strawman you, so.... Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2014 #31

Well, thanks at least for that ..... oldhippie Feb 2014 #35

You don't make it easy for yourself, do you? Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2014 #42

(sigh) If you really must know .... oldhippie Feb 2014 #43

Spoken like a true hippie Bandit Feb 2014 #26

"old" hippie ..... oldhippie Feb 2014 #28

I was not referring to anything you said as being untrue, it was the mindset i was commenting Bandit Feb 2014 #29

Can't argue with anything you've said ...... oldhippie Feb 2014 #32

The death penalty provides no disincentive to commit serious crime. It's useless... Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #4

It's even less than useless. It's counterproductive to society. Major Nikon Feb 2014 #20

Murder is murder... TroglodyteScholar Feb 2014 #5

The DP isn't murder JJChambers Feb 2014 #24

Semantics are semantics TroglodyteScholar Feb 2014 #40

It's not semantics JJChambers Feb 2014 #41

You understand my position, I think. TroglodyteScholar Feb 2014 #48

What you ask us to exclude is such an intrinsic part of the death penalty issue. stevenleser Feb 2014 #7

Nope. Spider Jerusalem Feb 2014 #8

Of course not BlueSpot Feb 2014 #10

Absolutely not. Iggo Feb 2014 #13

I once spoke to the Republican then Attorney General of California on a call in show Tom Rinaldo Feb 2014 #16

No, because there is no way to be sure of guilt, MineralMan Feb 2014 #18

I understand that there isn't in reality - this is more of a thought experiment el_bryanto Feb 2014 #36

I deal in realities only. Thought experiments do not MineralMan Feb 2014 #37

Thought experiments though can let you place exactly where your opposition to the death el_bryanto Feb 2014 #39

I would, but with a caveat. Lizzie Poppet Feb 2014 #19

No. Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2014 #21

No, there are still mental health issues treestar Feb 2014 #25

No, not in any circumstance gwheezie Feb 2014 #33

I totally would!!!!!!! get the red out Feb 2014 #34

No. H2O Man Feb 2014 #38

for me it's not chiefly about guilt- though the horror of an innocent person cali Feb 2014 #46

Two wrongs don't make anything right Bettie Feb 2014 #47