Okay, I admit it. There is no evolutionary component to sexual attraction.

[BrotherIvan]

159. What I'm trying to say, and it seems like most are willfully missing

Is that the evolutionary argument is rather thin in this case. The idea being that a man is aroused by seeing a woman's breasts and hips because it awakens his drive to reproduce as these are indicators of fertility. What I'm saying is that the body type we are now being sold: low body fat low enough to see ripped abs, tiny hips and legs on very tall women, is actually the body shape of teenaged boys. This shouldn't stimulate a hetero man, but the media has made this image so pervasive it does, thereby doing an end run around biology.

If you look up at my earlier post of the three models in white bikinis, the woman on the left is the only super model in that picture and is one of the biggest Victoria's Secret models. To me, her body looks like a 13 year-old boy. Men are sold this image and women are expected to look like this and it's just messing the whole world up.

But the biggest issue is that a scantily-clad woman IS the image of women in the media. There is very little celebration of women for being smart and accomplished. Just go and stand in front of a newsstand and you'll see. Women must be beautiful to be on a magazine cover, but men can be on one for being smart or rich or talented as a general rule. On tv, the shlump guy has a totally hot girlfriend; he can be funny or cool to make up for lack of looks, but a less than attractive female is worthless.

I see the effects all the time on weekends as people walk to the clubs: Guy in pants, shirt, shoes, leading along a woman in a skin-tight micro-mini, freezing because she is wearing less than a swimsuit to cover her; tottering on five inch heels looking like her feet are killing her and if she stumbles she might break an ankle. He's comfortable and casual, while she took about three hours to dress up to meet some image of what she is supposed to be and it's a painful cartoon of what a woman looks like, but she has been so pressured by the images she has been fed, she puts herself through that kind of pain. That is the problem with these extreme images that no normal person can meet.