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In reply to the discussion: Since Florida cannot defend black life against white fear, the question now is: How should black peo [View all]KansDem
(28,498 posts)52. Ask the Black Panthers

Elaine Brown, head of the Black Panther Party in the 1970s, recently explained:
The position of the Black Panther Party was that black people live in communities occupied by police forces that are armed and dangerous and represent the frontline of forces keeping us oppressed. We did not promote guns, but rather, the right to defend ourselves against a state that was oppressing us with guns. There were innumerable incidents in which police agents kicked in our doors or shot our brothers and sisters in what we called red-light trials, where the policeman was the judge, the jury and the executioner. We called for an immediate end to this brutality, and advocated for our right to self-defense. Today, the brutal police murders of Sean Bell in New York and Oscar Grant in Oakland are just two examples of how little has changed. The gun-control discussion could result in policies that further criminalize and target black people.
--And--
When Reagan and Nixon and the other Republicans in the 1960s advanced gun control, they were at least in part pandering to law-and-order conservatives who wanted police to have yet more power to protect them from minorities and the poor. If racism was not in the intent, it was definitely part of the effect.
The position of the Black Panther Party was that black people live in communities occupied by police forces that are armed and dangerous and represent the frontline of forces keeping us oppressed. We did not promote guns, but rather, the right to defend ourselves against a state that was oppressing us with guns. There were innumerable incidents in which police agents kicked in our doors or shot our brothers and sisters in what we called red-light trials, where the policeman was the judge, the jury and the executioner. We called for an immediate end to this brutality, and advocated for our right to self-defense. Today, the brutal police murders of Sean Bell in New York and Oscar Grant in Oakland are just two examples of how little has changed. The gun-control discussion could result in policies that further criminalize and target black people.
--And--
When Reagan and Nixon and the other Republicans in the 1960s advanced gun control, they were at least in part pandering to law-and-order conservatives who wanted police to have yet more power to protect them from minorities and the poor. If racism was not in the intent, it was definitely part of the effect.
http://morallowground.com/2013/10/01/the-black-panthers-were-right-and-reagan-was-wrong-on-gun-control/
I remember seeing and reading about well-disciplined "armies" of back men in "uniforms" and carrying arms arriving at public demonstrations. I also remember reading an article/report/biography written by a Black Panther (name escapes me) about how the (white) police officers "took notice" when these "armies" showed up.
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Since Florida cannot defend black life against white fear, the question now is: How should black peo [View all]
DonViejo
Feb 2014
OP
"Until we begin to see black men as human beings and not thugs there will be no justice."
Nuclear Unicorn
Feb 2014
#26
The law should act as a deterrent, not just a means of retribution. SYG does the opposite.
Scuba
Feb 2014
#70
As Dick Gregory said about Reagan's "law and order" platform... "He's always talking ....
Scuba
Feb 2014
#71
They should rename the law, "I Am 'Scared' Of You Therefore I Get To Kill You." IASOYTIGTKY
Rex
Feb 2014
#117
i guess if they see a white guy with a gun, they are allowed to shoot him under SYG nt
geek tragedy
Feb 2014
#5
Yep, some of these guys seem to have declared open warfare on blacks and they go
RKP5637
Feb 2014
#28
I blame the prosecutor. I don't see how the First Degree Murder was going to stick. n/t
dilby
Feb 2014
#7
Still a stretch. If the prosecutor thought he was guilty of 1st degree murder they
dilby
Feb 2014
#12
Or one juror did not believe Dunn's lies, but is tickled pink that Dunn killed a Black kid. n/t
ieoeja
Feb 2014
#36
The reason I said that was because he was the only one who brought up race war.
bravenak
Feb 2014
#80
The string of murders of Black Americans will end when racism ends. Probably never.
bravenak
Feb 2014
#32
Leave. There's nothing there that isn't way better someplace else. One nation cannot contain
Egalitarian Thug
Feb 2014
#39
That strategy might work if there were enough sane people there to make it possible,
Egalitarian Thug
Feb 2014
#55
No. People have to grow the hell up and stop trying to have privilege over others.
bravenak
Feb 2014
#63
Can every black yout now shoot first in fear of being shot? Does every white man look like a
kelliekat44
Feb 2014
#51