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GulliverUK

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20. Morals are problematic, aren't they?
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 07:42 PM
Feb 2014


Qualiasoup points out that what a leader says isn't necessarily moral, nor what the majority of people at a particular point think.

Are there absolute morals? If there are we don't necessarily know them. Gay people have been badly treated even in societies which have now come to understand the harm they did, and have put that right, with equality and non-discrimination policies, or are doing so.

In Uganda, Kenya, Nigeria and Russia their leaders have massive problems - getting condemnation from outside plays in to their hands, it's what they want, to distract from all the economic and social problems they have, which threaten the leadership. People in those countries will feel they are under attack and become nationalistic, defending their country (a natural reaction), and unfortunately that is associated with defending the leader of that country. Throw in religion - the root cause of homophobia - and you've got a load of people defending laws which are immoral. US Evangelicals are the root cause of this wave of hysterical homophobia sweeping Africa and Russia. Scott Lively has said that he has been to these countries and encouraged them to legislate against LGBT rights.

Many Africans have such poor knowledge of the Bible, as do many religious believers in the West, that they still think Sodom and Gomorrah is a story about [their] god destroying cities because of homosexualtiy. http://hoperemains.webs.com/sodomandgomorrah.htm

When you look at the comments sections on African news / comment web sites you often see highly erroneous views about scripture, and it appears these can only have come from Anglican and Catholic clergy - who are either thick and stupid, or have an agenda. The Internet is full of detailed explanations from academic scholars refuting these warped interpretations.

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Hmmm. Sounds like the "moral" swamp ground to me. MADem Feb 2014 #1
Get a load of this one. William769 Feb 2014 #2
Yeah, I saw--saddened but not surprised. MADem Feb 2014 #4
So that's what they're calling it now LOL? The moral high ground LOL? n/t louslobbs Feb 2014 #3
It's a wacky world we live in. William769 Feb 2014 #5
Right? Someone forgot to tell them that you take the moral high ground with love, not hate. louslobbs Feb 2014 #11
Is this new law the one KT2000 Feb 2014 #6
Yeah, but the people of Uganda were already 42% Catholic and 40% Anglican and so Bluenorthwest Feb 2014 #8
any comment from the pope ? JI7 Feb 2014 #9
Yes. He's visiting there in October to do a canonization. nt William769 Feb 2014 #10
I don't think "moral high ground" means DirkGently Feb 2014 #7
42% of Ugandans are Catholic, Francis has said nothing against this law but has spent Bluenorthwest Feb 2014 #12
So, Protestants are doing this, but it's still the Pope's fault? DirkGently Feb 2014 #14
So you think it's just Protestants doing "this"? theHandpuppet Feb 2014 #16
Pushing the Ugandan law the OP is about? Yes. DirkGently Feb 2014 #18
Yes, Scott Lively and his ilk theHandpuppet Feb 2014 #22
Pope Frank will be speaking out about this any decade now nt geek tragedy Feb 2014 #13
It is not moral to hate and kill people. shenmue Feb 2014 #15
Halt aid now! NT Adrahil Feb 2014 #17
jesus, the gift that keeps on giving nt msongs Feb 2014 #19
Morals are problematic, aren't they? GulliverUK Feb 2014 #20
Kicking! countryjake Feb 2014 #21
Kicking for the night owls. William769 Feb 2014 #23
Hate is a powerful weapon. Behind the Aegis Feb 2014 #24
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