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In reply to the discussion: A short rant about the Kate Upton "vomit comet" photo shoot... [View all]jberryhill
(62,444 posts)51. "You are confusing the force that you exert on the scale with weight"
No, you never took physics. That is the operational definition of "weight".
No, you have the same mass in free fall, in that it takes the same amount of force to induce movement. But you have no "weight" in free fall. That is why the bathroom scale in your falling elevator will read "0".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weightlessness
Weightlessness, or an absence of 'weight', is in fact an absence of stress and strain resulting from externally applied forces, typically contact forces from floors, seats, beds, scales, and the like. Counterintuitively, a uniform gravitational field does not by itself cause stress or strain, and a body in free fall in such an environment experiences no g-force acceleration and feels weightless. This is also termed zero-g.
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The myth that satellites remain in orbit because they have "escaped Earth's gravity" is perpetuated further (and falsely) by almost universal misuse of the word "zero gravity" to describe the free-falling conditions aboard orbiting space vehicles. Of course, this isn't true; gravity still exists in space. It keeps satellites from flying straight off into interstellar emptiness. What's missing is "weight", the resistance of gravitational attraction by an anchored structure or a counterforce. Satellites stay in space because of their tremendous horizontal speed, which allows them while being unavoidably pulled toward Earth by gravity to fall "over the horizon." The ground's curved withdrawal along the Earth's round surface offsets the satellites' fall toward the ground. Speed, not position or lack of gravity, keeps satellites in orbit around the earth.
At the altitude of the space station, the earth's gravitational force is considerable - it holds the moon, which is 250,000 miles away, in orbit as well. If it weren't for the fact that it had a high horizontal velocity, the ISS would drop like a rock.
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thank you. I was just thinking we need at least a dozen threads on the topic
Pretzel_Warrior
Feb 2014
#1
No! Jet planes are for bombing foreigners and ferrying families with kids to Orlando!
JVS
Feb 2014
#4
i figure if boobs in space is the new thing, then we will be on alpha centauri within five years
loli phabay
Feb 2014
#5
No, see my #47. What we think of as microgravity is experienced in a falling elevator. nt
stevenleser
Feb 2014
#48
You don't address microgravity. That's what we think of when we discuss "weightlessness" or
stevenleser
Feb 2014
#53
I believe that once you stop accelerating, you could measure your weight in the elevator.
Gravitycollapse
Feb 2014
#77
The force of gravity is constant at a given distance, regardless of your movement.
Gravitycollapse
Feb 2014
#73
You know what I mean. The inverse square rule becomes more significant at greater distance.
Gravitycollapse
Feb 2014
#80
That's actually not pedantic at all. And it is totally a big error on my part.
Gravitycollapse
Feb 2014
#91
Weightlessness is thus a misnomer. The international measure of weight is the Newton.
Gravitycollapse
Feb 2014
#96
What difference would you expect in the weight of an object at the equator and ...
muriel_volestrangler
Feb 2014
#111
You say it's 'negligible'; I, and the scientists, say it's clearly measurable
muriel_volestrangler
Feb 2014
#139
Jesus Christ, are you unable to even look up the definition of negligible?
Gravitycollapse
Feb 2014
#145
As we are talking about perception of weight, a difference of half a percent is negligible.
Gravitycollapse
Feb 2014
#153
"When an object is in free-fall, it does not make sense to talk about its "weight"."
Gravitycollapse
Feb 2014
#156
Unless, that is, we get into Einstein's ideas about the equivalance of a gravitational field
muriel_volestrangler
Feb 2014
#83
You are right but I don't think many people understand this at all. There is no zero gravity.
stevenleser
Feb 2014
#43
No, not "on earth". Every object in the universe is being tugged on by the earth toward its center.
stevenleser
Feb 2014
#62
You are always 100% of the time subject to gravity. Even if you were outside the solar system.
stevenleser
Feb 2014
#47
"gravity up in orbit is around 10% of what we experience here on terra firma" - a number you pulled
muriel_volestrangler
Feb 2014
#70
And again, there is a lot of carbon activity that you or i might consider "frivolous"
Warren DeMontague
Feb 2014
#39
The force of gravitas is constant at a given distance, regardless of your movement.
Orrex
Feb 2014
#161
None of that was a waste....because here you are talking and ranting about it in a public forum.
cbdo2007
Feb 2014
#110
That sort of thinking is a two way street and both directions lead to a dead end.
rrneck
Feb 2014
#116
All the effort making the video and all the controversy surrounding it made me seek it out.
Bok_Tukalo
Feb 2014
#128
Any political squabbling aside, I can certainly agree that the "zero-G boobs" thing is inane and
nomorenomore08
Feb 2014
#157