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In reply to the discussion: Muslim Woman Discovers Friendly New World When a Winter Scarf Covers Her Hijab [View all]M0rpheus
(885 posts)67. No one said that instant respect was expected, much less demanded. Did you see me say that?
As a matter of fact, nothing was mentioned about respect at all in the OP, much less the demand for it. That's what started this with me. Go back and check that if you like.
It just means we're warier and more cynical than others. Probably older too.
I'm a Black man, Father and Grandfather I know what it is to be wary. I don't give away anything easily but, I will talk to anyone who is willing to have a conversation. If I find that we have something in common we'll go from there. I give respect when I get it. If if my choice of religion disqualifies me from your respect, I don't want it.
As for your desire to see bigotry in her blog, I'd point to the fact that she was also given the cold shoulder by her community who couldn't identify her as part of their tribe. That she chose to gloss over that is understandable but doesn't make her inference that she was now "accepted" in the secular world some kind of indicator of discrimination
She didn't gloss over it at all. She was quite clear that it was different from both sides.
I have no desire to see discrimination at all. As a matter of fact, I'd rather unsee every bit that has gone on throughout my own life as if it doesn't exist but, I can't. I've struggled to keep my interactions here directed more towards decency rather than bigotry so as not to derail, but it's not something I imagined. You are free to disagree.
As to the other end of that from the Muslim men... Islam is a religion that encompasses people (a billion of them) of all colors from all over the world, if there is no outward display of said religion, how would they know? The author didn't mention whether these were the same drivers she's ridden with previously, so I have no clue. They could have been upset that she wasn't wearing her Hijab, or they may not have even recognized her and assumed that they had nothing in common, I don't know. having been a cab driver in Chicago, if you don't seem to have anything in common with your fare, it's all business. That could be it too.
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Muslim Woman Discovers Friendly New World When a Winter Scarf Covers Her Hijab [View all]
JI7
Feb 2014
OP
Uhm, did you read the part in her blog where she got the reverse treatment from fellow Muslims
riderinthestorm
Feb 2014
#16
But due to her choice of religion, you'd pass up the possibility that she's worth your respect? nt
M0rpheus
Feb 2014
#27
Knowing nothing past what they choose to wear and by extension their religion?
M0rpheus
Feb 2014
#48
religion and politics are probably the single most defining characterists of a person
dlwickham
Feb 2014
#53
Religion, as a poster mentioned somewhere in this thread, is more often something you grow up with.
M0rpheus
Feb 2014
#60
don't you usually respect people unless they give you reason not to ? it's not possible
JI7
Feb 2014
#33
Nobody automatically gets respect from me. That's weird. I'm courteous and open
riderinthestorm
Feb 2014
#65
No one said that instant respect was expected, much less demanded. Did you see me say that?
M0rpheus
Feb 2014
#67
You say it right in post #15 that instant respect should be expected because she's a human being
riderinthestorm
Feb 2014
#70
Being worthy of respect and expecting/demanding "instant respect" are 2 different things.
M0rpheus
Feb 2014
#72
i would be interested to know if the muslims knew she was muslim when she was covered
JI7
Feb 2014
#29
Well, we probably have differing opinions as to the meaning of "indoctrinate"
Blue_In_AK
Feb 2014
#84
there is more pressure in her culture to stay in the background regardless of what she wears and not
JI7
Feb 2014
#26
Affixing "tard" to descriptive words and names as an insult isn't something DU invented
kcr
Feb 2014
#19
That's the way I remember it..and Urban Dictionary seems to back me up on the timeline.
CJCRANE
Feb 2014
#21
The odd thing is, there's no "rule" that says one must wear the ostentatious scarf folded in such a
MADem
Feb 2014
#5
People shouldn't have negative reactions to her for wearing her hajib, absolutely.
Warren DeMontague
Feb 2014
#32
Chicago, liberal. excuse me? I must be having a flashback or something. n/t
Egalitarian Thug
Feb 2014
#36
It's very Democratic, but it ain't near liberal. Remember the warm welcome Dr. King got there?
Egalitarian Thug
Feb 2014
#42