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In reply to the discussion: What the Mainstream Media isn't telling you about the situation in Kiev. [View all]pampango
(24,692 posts)with Russia?
Didn't both candidates in the final round of the presidential election in 2012 campaign in support of closer ties with the EU? (I don't know whether the candidates really believed that policy or were just politicians saying what they thought people wanted to hear. In either case it is interesting that neither campaigned for closer ties with Russia.)
If you are arguing that polls, campaigns and elections don't matter, because we understand the global forces at work and Ukrainians should just go home, sit down and shut up, we disagree. Massive sustained protest movements - whether in Tienanmen Square, Zuccotti Park or in Independence Square - are not inherently right wing or fascist.
Thousands of people protesting and living in tents for months through a Ukrainian winter genuinely believe they are there for an important reason. Tea party protests in the US are much shorter, less well attended and weather dependent than what has happened in Kiev or what happens in the Occupy movement.