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Armstead

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131. What is needed is an overriding framework...The rest can flow from that

Wed Feb 19, 2014, 12:38 PM

Feb 2014

I'm not saying i disagree with the EFF.

But they are focusing on the trees, when we also have to consider the forest.

The first is the need to protect the core value of universal affordable access to the internet, and service that is as high quality as possible. This leads the door open to private profit --- bit only if it is in line with that larger goal.

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Why did President Obama appoint Tom Wheeler to head the FCC? [View all] 2banon Feb 2014 OP

K&R! G_j Feb 2014 #1

Why you ask ? SamKnause Feb 2014 #2

Good point.. Maybe THIS issue will inspire those supporters to take action? 2banon Feb 2014 #3

Many of them agree with his picks and policies. That's why they voted KoKo Feb 2014 #4

You do realize that your Presidential candidate voted to confirm Mr. Wheeler? nt msanthrope Feb 2014 #7

You are ruining perfectly good faux outrage!!!! JoePhilly Feb 2014 #34

Do YOU think it is a good idea to appoint lobbyists to regulate the industries they represent? Armstead Feb 2014 #42

They believe that what is good for Wall Street is good for the country. nm rhett o rick Feb 2014 #52

Because this is the internet and I can focus where ever I choose. JoePhilly Feb 2014 #74

Not the point at all. 2banon Feb 2014 #78

You can conclude whatever you want ... again, this is the internet. JoePhilly Feb 2014 #81

Consider this a call to action (link) 2banon Feb 2014 #89

No summary ... no link clicking. JoePhilly Feb 2014 #91

Just edited OP to Add Summaries and Links for Net Neutrality and Media Consolidation 2banon Feb 2014 #98

You assume that everyone who cares about actual issues blindly freaks out. Armstead Feb 2014 #80

Who said I don't care about media consolidation? JoePhilly Feb 2014 #83

Let me put it this way. Armstead Feb 2014 #95

Who are these "other qualified people?" JoePhilly Feb 2014 #96

There's the specifics here and there's the larger attitude Armstead Feb 2014 #101

Well Said.. 2banon Feb 2014 #102

Thanks. Armstead Feb 2014 #104

Yes, I edited the OP to add links for background summaries and Calls to Action 2banon Feb 2014 #106

And the corporatists dont understand why the lower classes are outraged. rhett o rick Feb 2014 #51

"Faux Outrage" ? Seriously? 2banon Feb 2014 #59

Be honest ... JoePhilly Feb 2014 #76

Honestly.. 2banon Feb 2014 #84

Please explain what we're supposed to be upset about. JoePhilly Feb 2014 #88

I'm not taking you seriously at this point.. 2banon Feb 2014 #99

Already addressed that question in the OP. 2banon Feb 2014 #100

This one of the posters that, if President Obama killed and ate a puppy during a press conference, Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #93

You're making a very odd assumption. Maybe it's projection? Do you really think that those who sabrina 1 Feb 2014 #110

+1 a whole bunch! Enthusiast Feb 2014 #121

When you ask about how they reconcile "Fast Tracking" the TTP you get Phlem Feb 2014 #37

I agree..and it's a sad commentary, isn't it? n/t 2banon Feb 2014 #62

Obama didn't say a hell of a lot. It was all empty rhetoric. BlueStreak Feb 2014 #56

+1. It WAS all empty rhetoric....both times. SammyWinstonJack Feb 2014 #149

Not likely. SamKnause Feb 2014 #6

The same as Bill Clinton did. Yavapai Feb 2014 #44

Agree SamKnause Feb 2014 #45

Then why did Senators Warren and Sanders vote for him, too? nt msanthrope Feb 2014 #8

For the same reasons Senators Warren, Franken, and Sanders voted for him.... msanthrope Feb 2014 #5

What is in the proposal that appeals to you? 2banon Feb 2014 #15

We don't need legislation to fix it...but we do need Congressional hearings that msanthrope Feb 2014 #17

I would agree, if for once the findings were given the weight that is due for implementation 2banon Feb 2014 #22

Blasphemer!!!! JoePhilly Feb 2014 #25

What is your position on Net Neutrality? n/t sabrina 1 Feb 2014 #127

It's kind of interesting what constitutes as "Well Qualified" .. 2banon Feb 2014 #32

you have to understand. Phlem Feb 2014 #38

Plus raising over $700,000 for President Obama's madville Feb 2014 #90

Sometimes you have to let the sharks feed. Rex Feb 2014 #9

Yeah, there is that too. 2banon Feb 2014 #11

I give the man hell for being a corporate suit sometimes. Then I remember he is just a small fish. Rex Feb 2014 #12

I wouldn't mind living in the forest, if I could trust it wasn't going to be mined or fracked.. ;) 2banon Feb 2014 #33

If we could get back to the days of enforcing laws against near monopolies Rex Feb 2014 #36

BINGO! Armstead Feb 2014 #43

Exactly so. I'm tired of being shafted, and I'm tired of being cynical.. 2banon Feb 2014 #49

Rex!!!!!!!! Autumn Feb 2014 #27

Did you hear? They are coming out with a new movie called Shark of Wall Street! Rex Feb 2014 #29

Ohhh I love real life documentaries. I hope Timmy plays the lead. Autumn Feb 2014 #30

LOL! Rex Feb 2014 #31

Unrec ...and FYI, Wheeler is working with Congress on net neutrality. Don't forget msanthrope Feb 2014 #10

Doesn't need to work with a corrupt congress. The FCC can "fix" this issue quite simply and quickly 2banon Feb 2014 #14

Sorry...but I think he should work with Franken and Wyden on this. I agree that the FCC msanthrope Feb 2014 #16

Re-Classify first, then we can have our dog and pony show.. 2banon Feb 2014 #20

You're missing the point of hearings...to provide Congressional findings msanthrope Feb 2014 #21

I get the point, I just don't have faith in the outcome. 2banon Feb 2014 #28

It should with President Obama setting a direction.... Armstead Feb 2014 #46

Hear, Here! n/t 2banon Feb 2014 #65

Then who should he have appointed? nt msanthrope Feb 2014 #136

People who have dedicated their lives in the Public Interest 2banon Feb 2014 #143

an here's TOM WHEELER----doing everything you could ask--- msanthrope Feb 2014 #144

I hope you're right. 2banon Feb 2014 #146

Why? You say you think it's important but you don't say why. just repeat that it's important cali Feb 2014 #23

I think your assessment is incorrect. Reclassifying the internet only gets them back to where they okaawhatever Feb 2014 #111

hmm. You make some very good points 2banon Feb 2014 #115

i've been reading more since my last post. Last night I read probably ten or twenty articles, but okaawhatever Feb 2014 #117

I have to also concede this issue is more complicated than I previously considered. 2banon Feb 2014 #118

I couldn't find the article excerpt I just read, but I think this one is similar. okaawhatever Feb 2014 #120

Not really all that complex, from the pov of the consumer, it's really quite simple. 2banon Feb 2014 #18

It is complex if you want to win the eventual court challenges. I agree with the idea of a msanthrope Feb 2014 #19

probably because Obama is the antichrist Pretzel_Warrior Feb 2014 #13

Do YOU think it is a good idea to appoint lobbyists to regulate the industries they represent? Armstead Feb 2014 #47

it always has to do with each specific individual and each specific case. Pretzel_Warrior Feb 2014 #53

How about this individual and this case? Armstead Feb 2014 #57

why not? treestar Feb 2014 #79

Everyone is potentialy corrupt....or just myopic Armstead Feb 2014 #82

It is, because when one assumes that everyone would do a thing treestar Feb 2014 #97

It's the extent and a matter of balance Armstead Feb 2014 #103

OMG. Obama appointed the GE and Comcast Atty to the Anti-Trust division of the Justice Dept!! 2banon Feb 2014 #107

I quit believing in our president when he appointed Rahm. LiberalArkie Feb 2014 #24

It's funny, I didn't know much about Rahm until his appointment.. 2banon Feb 2014 #35

PBO had 2 tells during his acceptance speech. Phlem Feb 2014 #39

Because ProSense Feb 2014 #26

Do you have the inside scoop on why Obama appointed Wheeler as FCC chairman? JDPriestly Feb 2014 #50

Who cares? He nominated him, he was confirmned and now he's working for the President. ProSense Feb 2014 #55

I care. A lot of internet users care. Do you know why Obama appointed Wheeler? JDPriestly Feb 2014 #67

About the ProSense Feb 2014 #68

Nothing to add to this well said synopsis. 2banon Feb 2014 #58

I like to think President Obama has more discriminating Cha Feb 2014 #86

We are told repeatedly that we should have known when we voted for him. . . . . JDPriestly Feb 2014 #40

Hillary..... Enthusiast Feb 2014 #122

Change you can believe in!!! bvar22 Feb 2014 #150

Right. I traveled half-way across the country to help insure his win, and he has done many JDPriestly Feb 2014 #151

K&R DeSwiss Feb 2014 #41

With many of his appointments it seems like he thinks what is needed is the knowledge of the ins and jwirr Feb 2014 #48

good observation Armstead Feb 2014 #64

One reason no critical mass is a lot of peope don't know anything about it Armstead Feb 2014 #54

Good point. Here's to freepress.net for their tireless work on these issue.. here's a link 2banon Feb 2014 #71

Troubling quotes from Mr. Wheeler Armstead Feb 2014 #60

+1 jsr Feb 2014 #132

Here: ProSense Feb 2014 #61

Well THIS is really encouaging. I feel better now Armstead Feb 2014 #63

Good, because ProSense Feb 2014 #66

And therefore we should all just shut off our laptops and go watch Duck Dynasty... Armstead Feb 2014 #69

If you do the NSA will give Obama a favorable report and put a gold star by your name. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2014 #70

ROFL! 2banon Feb 2014 #73

Maybe ProSense Feb 2014 #72

Well thank you for making your position crystal clear. 2banon Feb 2014 #75

What nonsense. ProSense Feb 2014 #77

Net Netutrality is Apple Pie and Motherhood. Easy to claim to support it. Armstead Feb 2014 #92

You are ProSense Feb 2014 #134

Your philosophy in a nutshell. "Don't Care." Armstead Feb 2014 #85

Yup. It's as close to a core value as the Third Way gets: "Either way!" woo me with science Feb 2014 #113

+1 Enthusiast Feb 2014 #124

LOL! ProSense Feb 2014 #138

OMG. I can't believe Pro actually posted that. bvar22 Feb 2014 #152

+1 Enthusiast Feb 2014 #123

Gee you have a way with words. ProSense Feb 2014 #139

Oh, I ProSense Feb 2014 #135

Over 700,000 reasons madville Feb 2014 #87

That explains a lot. 2banon Feb 2014 #94

+100000000 woo me with science Feb 2014 #105

"a place in line at the feed trough" Enthusiast Feb 2014 #125

I stand with President Obama UNCONDITIONALLY - no matter what!! As Job said to the Lord Douglas Carpenter Feb 2014 #108

that really slays me.. 2banon Feb 2014 #109

Well done. woo me with science Feb 2014 #114

Most excellent. jsr Feb 2014 #133

A post like this only proves how condescending some people are. ProSense Feb 2014 #141

It's not a response to the OP brentspeak Feb 2014 #154

A few facts for the record. onenote Feb 2014 #112

I just learned that EFF is NOT on board 2banon Feb 2014 #116

There are complexities and dilemmas for sure.... Armstead Feb 2014 #129

Completely Agree. The infrastructure should be considered Public Commons, imo. 2banon Feb 2014 #130

What is needed is an overriding framework...The rest can flow from that Armstead Feb 2014 #131

Overriding framework we call Net Neutrality.. 2banon Feb 2014 #140

Me too, but to use the public utility example Armstead Feb 2014 #142

Yes..in principle, essentially the same idea. 2banon Feb 2014 #145

These things always need housecleaning Armstead Feb 2014 #147

LOL! Completely Agree.. 2banon Feb 2014 #148

Kevin Martin was anything but awesome onenote Feb 2014 #153

That's interesting 2banon Feb 2014 #155

Why did he have to go to the same corproate trough? Armstead Feb 2014 #119

I do not approve of corporate retreads. Enthusiast Feb 2014 #126

I signed it and gave comments. KoKo Feb 2014 #128

They say you will know them by their deeds wocaonimabi Feb 2014 #137

A kick in light of the new "net neutrality" rules the FCC is floating villager Apr 2014 #156