Juror in 'Loud Music' Trial Wanted Murder Conviction

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77. there were actually three sets of shots

The last two sets were shot into the car while it was retreating... the first volley was directly at Davis through his car door before the car started the move, the second volley was several seconds later at the car willy nilly as it was backing out of the space, and the third set was as the car was out of the space and driving forward again willy nilly into the back of the car. So it was the last two sets of shots that applied to the surviving passengers in the car as they were not aimed at anyone in particular and the car was in some state of retreat.

That was the point to their self-defense questions that the judge and attorneys spent a long time trying to answer specifically. Apparently the jury instructions were confusing concerning this, and even the judge during that discussion said it was the most confusing instruction and took them hours to try to figure out the right language. See that discussion here...

The judge was trying to explain for the jury that each circumstance during the whole (each separate volley of shots) needed to be considered by itself according to each person in the car. And without telling them that deadly force was or was not justified according to each volley and each person. The more they discussed how to answer the questions the more confusing it seemed to get. I think I understood it all a lot more clearly at the beginning of the discussion than I did at the end.