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JTFrog

(14,274 posts)
16. W.T.F.
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 06:05 PM
Feb 2014

What may or may not appear hostile to you is not the issue here. IT'S NOT ABOUT YOU. You admit that you have never encountered anything like I and many other women have in our lifetimes, so how would you have any idea what other women find hostile? Why instead do you portray the vocal feminists here as overly sensitive and prudish? The only reason I can imagine is that you have never walked in their shoes. Because you were the bad ass woman who never took shit from anyone and had "back up", you make it sound like anyone who wasn't able to do so is/was just too sensitive and weak willed. Well, I'll tell you a little about my personal life. I was raped by my father when I was 8 years old. I probably shouldn't have believed that he would really kill me if I told anyone. I mean being punched in the face and strangled by that man surely didn't reinforce that fear. And I probably should have starting working out much younger in life so that I could fend off the two men who crawled in my bedroom window when I was twelve and put a gun to my head while raping me. After they left, I found my mom passed out in the garbage with a needle sticking out of her arm. So, yeah that was my "back up". Needless to say, I suffered some severe emotional trauma on top of the physical shit that happened to me. And that's just the shit that happened before I became a teenager. People used to tell me how "strong" I was to have survived and overcome the things I have in my life. I wasn't strong. I was terrified and suffered from extreme depression and pstd until I was in my mid 30's. To ME, rape culture is very real. It has taken it's toll on me and I would really love to change things for my daughter and granddaughter. So when I see people here talk about redefining rape and trying to blur the lines of consent I get outraged. When I see women reduced to nothing more than objects, I get outraged. That reduction is VERY harmful and hostile not only to those who have walked in my shoes, but even to those who have never had to deal with it. A lot of women don't have to deal with it until it happens to them. And that's what we want to change. Not what you wear to the beach.

FFS.

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I'm against the gender wars [View all] CreekDog Feb 2014 OP
*looks out from behind cash register* - I loove Cjeek Dogg! bettyellen Feb 2014 #1
! CreekDog Feb 2014 #2
K&R wryter2000 Feb 2014 #3
Yes, the "it's all in your head" type responses here are getting old R B Garr Feb 2014 #4
+1 Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #17
I'm not after I invested in stock in popcorn manufacturers ! Initech Feb 2014 #5
I can agree with that. Cleita Feb 2014 #6
It takes a lot of willful ignorance JTFrog Feb 2014 #7
Oh you again. Cleita Feb 2014 #9
And you flatter yourself yet again. JTFrog Feb 2014 #10
Playing that victim card is really getting boring. Cleita Feb 2014 #12
W.T.F. JTFrog Feb 2014 #16
........... sufrommich Feb 2014 #20
I'm sorry for all the tragedy in your life but Cleita Feb 2014 #22
You can dismiss it all you want. JTFrog Feb 2014 #23
Have a nice day. n/t Cleita Feb 2014 #25
Yea, thanks for nothing. n/t JTFrog Feb 2014 #26
I hear you, JTFrog. You are not alone. I stand in solidarity with you. Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #28
It's really fucking weird, and really fucking sad. redqueen Feb 2014 #62
You have really crossed the line with this post. Sheldon Cooper Feb 2014 #29
And so the pile on begins. RC Feb 2014 #128
I agree with your post RC. Jetboy Feb 2014 #131
Honestly Cleita.... You CAN'T be as clueless as you maintain... hlthe2b Feb 2014 #35
STOP Kali Feb 2014 #36
Oh, dear. Now you've gone and offended Sheldon Cooper. Oh, my. Comrade Grumpy Feb 2014 #39
you may have a piece of her cake, too. Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #43
You're so into trying to score points boston bean Feb 2014 #87
Yeah, even fairly-hard-to-offend me is pretty offended by that. nomorenomore08 Feb 2014 #135
"You are only a sex object when you allow it to happen to you" redqueen Feb 2014 #58
Post removed Post removed Feb 2014 #61
Thank you. That is the perfect response to show what kind of person you are. redqueen Feb 2014 #64
Post removed Post removed Feb 2014 #67
Will you never get tired of demonstrating your cluelessness? redqueen Feb 2014 #74
You can't answer that can you because it's true.n/t Cleita Feb 2014 #77
Politics= Snowden, pot, and whatever guys decide is okay BainsBane Feb 2014 #121
Feminism IS politics. RBStevens Feb 2014 #97
What rock did you come out from under? boston bean Feb 2014 #69
Post removed Post removed Feb 2014 #73
Are you fucking kidding me? Now you are going to call her a liar? boston bean Feb 2014 #78
And what if she is to gather the sympathy she has? Cleita Feb 2014 #82
Oh you are a piece of work. boston bean Feb 2014 #84
You really ought to take a step away... hlthe2b Feb 2014 #86
I don't care about the squabbles between you and whoever. But your lack of empathy is just gross. nomorenomore08 Feb 2014 #136
What? You assumed that she lied, and you think she's just MineralMan Feb 2014 #142
Shitfire! You are on a fucking ROLL today! redqueen Feb 2014 #81
"fucking" Oh my. You are using a dirty and unacceptable word in your community. Cleita Feb 2014 #83
Riiiight... redqueen Feb 2014 #89
Impossible! No one lies about anything about themselves on an anonymous posting board. Old and In the Way Feb 2014 #98
God,just stop it. sufrommich Feb 2014 #99
Who made you the board nanny? Old and In the Way Feb 2014 #102
"Bullies who gang up on a woman" RBStevens Feb 2014 #107
Post removed Post removed Feb 2014 #110
How am I a "pro-bully"? What does that even mean? RBStevens Feb 2014 #111
Real victims...here or irl? Old and In the Way Feb 2014 #112
Yes real. Everywhere all my life. RBStevens Feb 2014 #116
RB, if you go to HoF,you will see JTFrog anonymously sufrommich Feb 2014 #113
Ultimate proof that personal beefs matter more than real issues. People will use *anything* nomorenomore08 Feb 2014 #137
Wow... project much? hlthe2b Feb 2014 #114
But hostility toward a woman who shares heart renching personal experiences BainsBane Feb 2014 #123
No what is disgusting MadrasT Feb 2014 #100
Post removed Post removed Feb 2014 #103
Who the f*ck has been influencing you to think this is an ok thing boston bean Feb 2014 #65
Maybe it was, but that person, well the whole group has been pretty mean to me for a long time. Cleita Feb 2014 #70
The LGBT community hasn't been much better? boston bean Feb 2014 #72
No they haven't. They've been pretty cruel to me just because I think Pope Francis Cleita Feb 2014 #75
Is that the only reason, cause you just gave another upthread as to why boston bean Feb 2014 #80
Heartless. RBStevens Feb 2014 #96
You know, I'm not sure I believe that you are sorry. MineralMan Feb 2014 #141
Cold, condescending, heartless response. n/t Gormy Cuss Feb 2014 #144
JTFrog, one of the bravest posts ever on DU. Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #30
tremendous... How strong you have become to reveal all this, JTFrog hlthe2b Feb 2014 #32
VERY brave post Kali Feb 2014 #37
JTFrog I support you. MadrasT Feb 2014 #42
Oh JT, I am standing up right next to you. redqueen Feb 2014 #46
... AtheistCrusader Feb 2014 #52
I just got called to serve on a jury for this. NuclearDem Feb 2014 #85
Which post, NuclearDem? hlthe2b Feb 2014 #88
JTFrog baring her soul to the world, that one. NuclearDem Feb 2014 #90
Please PM them to me as well. boston bean Feb 2014 #92
thank you.... n/t hlthe2b Feb 2014 #95
JTFrog, somebody tried to shut you up by alerting on this post! But the jury backed you up. Tanuki Feb 2014 #91
I can't say anything else but, OMFG boston bean Feb 2014 #93
And of course they gave no explanation. Way to stick the ol' neck out, right? nomorenomore08 Feb 2014 #138
And neither posted an explanation of their vote, I see. MineralMan Feb 2014 #143
That may be the most shameful alert that I've ever read here. Gormy Cuss Feb 2014 #145
The two posters accusing her of lying about it boston bean Feb 2014 #146
You know what? There are DUers I detest, ones I have sparred with forever, Gormy Cuss Feb 2014 #147
Powerful post, JT. Thank you for sharing this. R B Garr Feb 2014 #105
You are incredibly brave. cinnabonbon Feb 2014 #108
This must have been so difficult to write. Squinch Feb 2014 #117
((hugs)) Starry Messenger Feb 2014 #118
JTFrog BainsBane Feb 2014 #122
Not a hostile environment? BainsBane Feb 2014 #59
Person already hurled insults to me on another thread. Sorry if I wasn't exactly welcoming on this Cleita Feb 2014 #63
You're still spreading misinformation about the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Vashta Nerada Feb 2014 #94
I was very clear BainsBane Feb 2014 #120
Since the Civil Rights Act of 1964 has no application here, why are you using it? Vashta Nerada Feb 2014 #125
She explained in detail. The real question is why you keep asking. R B Garr Feb 2014 #127
Thanks for answering, BainsBane. Vashta Nerada Feb 2014 #129
You responded to my post, not BainsBane R B Garr Feb 2014 #130
Because people claim to be liberals BainsBane Feb 2014 #134
What hostile atmosphere on this site? Vashta Nerada Feb 2014 #15
the photo arely staircase Feb 2014 #18
read the thread. buy a clue. Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #40
he did, he's been commenting on it left and right CreekDog Feb 2014 #44
not that one. this one. sorry. Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #49
Nice examples. Vashta Nerada Feb 2014 #47
when people enter an environment that includes many diverse perspectives Kali Feb 2014 #45
Is it appropriate to display the swimsuit issue of SI in the checkout line at the store? Vashta Nerada Feb 2014 #50
Post removed Post removed Feb 2014 #53
I'm not the only one who needs to move on. Vashta Nerada Feb 2014 #55
This is me moving past you. Moving On. Bye Now. Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #56
yep, I am about finished too Kali Feb 2014 #68
so I take it that is a yes? Kali Feb 2014 #54
I don't particularly want to open the floodgates to bikini pictures in GD. signed, Skinner. Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #57
And this one remains unlocked. Vashta Nerada Feb 2014 #60
you have not answered the question Kali Feb 2014 #66
Only when it's done in a sexual way. Vashta Nerada Feb 2014 #71
right Kali Feb 2014 #76
Truth =/= intellectual dishonesty. Vashta Nerada Feb 2014 #79
Do you have a link to where she said was celebrating 50 years of women athletes? R B Garr Feb 2014 #104
Oh, Vashta, please. There is no part of you that believes that the point of that post was to Squinch Feb 2014 #119
you know what the problem is? it's you. CreekDog Feb 2014 #133
The lack of perspective is what really bugs me. As if being asked not to post cheesecake photos nomorenomore08 Feb 2014 #139
k&r Starry Messenger Feb 2014 #8
Creeky MuseRider Feb 2014 #11
that is kind of you to say CreekDog Feb 2014 #132
Rec n/t LadyHawkAZ Feb 2014 #13
K&R n/t 1awake Feb 2014 #14
+1. nt bemildred Feb 2014 #19
I support this message *and* MadrasT Feb 2014 #21
For what its worth, many of us in the old spectrum of generations have had to Cleita Feb 2014 #24
you really take the cake. you know that, right? Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #31
Preemptive tone policing. MadrasT Feb 2014 #33
after she dissed JTFrog's testimony. good gawd. the callousness. the cold. Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #38
Surrender by women is not the answer...working together raises up all of us. Great OP..thank you. Jefferson23 Feb 2014 #27
I'm against mean people Boom Sound 416 Feb 2014 #34
Me too! In_The_Wind Feb 2014 #41
well, playing nice doesn't always work Kali Feb 2014 #48
Testify, Kali. Standing with you in solidarity. n/t Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #51
Tarasha benjamin after 4 years ccpi Feb 2014 #101
what a terrible set of circumstances. boston bean Feb 2014 #106
K&R nt TBF Feb 2014 #109
Unlike porno and magazine covers, you are talking about real women's issues. But those aren't as... phleshdef Feb 2014 #115
Good post. Good post. nt AverageJoe90 Feb 2014 #124
I am all with you there, but AgingAmerican Feb 2014 #126
I'm with you, CreekDog! Enthusiast Feb 2014 #140
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