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bvar22

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34. Your Gish Gallop fails to impress.

Thu Feb 20, 2014, 08:58 PM

Feb 2014

Lets keep it simple:

*For most of my life, Social Security and the New Deal has been the Corner Stone of the modern Democratic Party.
THIS, and LBJ's Great Society are the reasons I joined The Democratic Party

*Until 2008, Social Security has enjoyed the protection of being the Untouchable "3rd Rail of Politics".
Touch it...and you DIE!
That has kept our Social Security safe from Republican meddling.

*The Obama Administration has set the precedent of reducing Social Security from The Untouchable 3rd Rail of Politics,
to just another chip on the table
that will be In Play in every future Budget Negotiation in the future
until it is GONE (or "Privatized", which is the same thing).

*Since 2008, The Democratic Party Leadership has assisted in falsely connecting Social Security to The Deficit Crisis .

*This damage to the New Deal and Social Security is irreversible.

ONLY a "Democrat" could do those things.

Is something like THIS too much to expect from a Democratic President?

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Yeah.... but he didn't cut it!!!!!!!!!! Autumn Feb 2014 #1

Let me be the first to say you must hate Obama. :-) djean111 Feb 2014 #2

No, No, No he is just pining for a Liberal POTUS wocaonimabi Feb 2014 #3

Haha! I see what you did there. djean111 Feb 2014 #4

I thought he was pining for the fjords Autumn Feb 2014 #13

hate Obama??? Is that what the ones who have OAS call ODS? Autumn Feb 2014 #9

AND a Libertarian! woo me with science Feb 2014 #11

Autumn never really loved him!!1! QC Feb 2014 #22

Third Way Surreal: President seeks credit for election-year pause in his own hostage-taking. woo me with science Feb 2014 #5

And Just Think... If We Were To Get More Reasonable Republicans Elected... WillyT Feb 2014 #6

Reasonable........Republicans??????? LongTomH Feb 2014 #12

We don't talk about HOW it gets on the table, woo me with science Feb 2014 #16

No truer words. jsr Feb 2014 #10

Thank you. You laugh or you cry, but it's actually revolting and deeply, deeply unfunny woo me with science Feb 2014 #15

But it's a great privilege to elect people we pay to taunt, betray and torment us. jsr Feb 2014 #18

I know...there's always the "catch" with what he says..it seems. KoKo Feb 2014 #20

I believe a lot of people will be voting with great enthusiasm jsr Feb 2014 #21

+10000, and we see the same manipulative corporate game shaping up with Net Neutrality, too. woo me with science Feb 2014 #23

Recommend! KoKo Feb 2014 #29

It really is surreal, bvar22 Feb 2014 #33

Shut up! You'll be stone dead in a minute hootinholler Feb 2014 #7

Wait! Wait! woo me with science Feb 2014 #8

and perhaps more importantly it solidifies the framing of "SS is a deficit issue" MisterP Feb 2014 #14

The poisoning of the Democratic Party identity and message. woo me with science Feb 2014 #19

"Woo" your link deserves at least some SNIP: KoKo Feb 2014 #30

Thanks, KoKo. woo me with science Feb 2014 #35

^^^^^^^ Important post by MisterP.^^^^^^^^^^ woo me with science Feb 2014 #24

Exactly !!! - Great Point !!! WillyT Feb 2014 #26

Here: ProSense Feb 2014 #17

Is he trying to completely kill the Democratic Party? Scuba Feb 2014 #25

Makes one think about the Third Way/New Democrats and how they got here... woo me with science Feb 2014 #27

In other words, Third Way = 1% jsr Feb 2014 #31

Indeed and I'm an older Democrat who thought Clinton was so charismatic coming from Poverty KoKo Feb 2014 #32

Perhaps if someone explained WHY CCPI won't go anywhere ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2014 #28

Your Gish Gallop fails to impress. bvar22 Feb 2014 #34

What is a "Gish Gallop"? ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2014 #36

Morning Kick !!! WillyT Feb 2014 #37

Yep. "The offer to Speaker Boehner remains on the table" jsr Feb 2014 #38

Could Not Be Any More Clear... WillyT Feb 2014 #39