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Lasher

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71. But isn't all this pretty much the point against the TPP and TTIP?

Thu Feb 20, 2014, 09:10 PM

Feb 2014

We already have trade agreements and low conventional trade barriers. So what is to be gained from doubling down on new mega-trade agreements like these? The focus of these deals will be on non-conventional barriers, meaning various regulatory practices.
These trade agreements are not about promoting prosperity for all, but for powerful industry lobbies to dodge regulation.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/jul/15/us-trade-deal-with-europe-hype

Contemporary so-called free trade agreements are not the same as every treaty since Bismark's time.

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The Trans Pacific Partnership. TPP Do you support it or not. [View all] frwrfpos Feb 2014 OP

NOT! 2naSalit Feb 2014 #1

Abso-fuckin-lutely not!!!!! LongTomH Feb 2014 #2

Perfect answer. vlakitti Feb 2014 #34

+1 daleanime Feb 2014 #47

^This^ GoneOffShore Feb 2014 #67

No effing way JohnyCanuck Feb 2014 #3

No, my mommy taught me to mistrust secret deals. jwirr Feb 2014 #4

I wonder what the Obama and Hillary supporters think of this? RC Feb 2014 #5

Lessee - djean111 Feb 2014 #8

Lessee - jazzimov Feb 2014 #16

Some of it has been leaked already. So some of us, including some in Congress, djean111 Feb 2014 #17

Both of my DEMOCRATIC Senators said that trade agreements are important rhett o rick Feb 2014 #55

We know WHAT it is, though Scootaloo Feb 2014 #27

It was debated in the Japanese Parliament back in November Art_from_Ark Feb 2014 #79

"Don't you want to help poor people in other countries?" Vashta Nerada Feb 2014 #41

Those imaginary lines on the maps are really important to a lot of people. LanternWaste Feb 2014 #66

We only have a say in what goes on within the confines of those lines. Citizenry matters. It's Ed Suspicious Feb 2014 #81

No you don't. LOL! Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #35

Love Hillary overall. NCTraveler Feb 2014 #65

Not - not - not 840high Feb 2014 #6

Meh Recursion Feb 2014 #7

It is not the "trade" stuff that is frightening - it is the elevation of invetors to a position djean111 Feb 2014 #9

Then you're 20 years too late Recursion Feb 2014 #11

But isn't all this pretty much the point against the TPP and TTIP? Lasher Feb 2014 #71

I support sabbat hunter Feb 2014 #10

Fuck.the.TPP. X_Digger Feb 2014 #12

Support what? jazzimov Feb 2014 #13

"We'll have to pass it to see what's in it" -Pelosi Fumesucker Feb 2014 #18

It burns so badly! Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #36

IMO, it's already too late to matter. merrily Feb 2014 #49

Deleted by merrily. merrily Feb 2014 #50

By then it will be too late Armstead Feb 2014 #26

Oh plez. Who do you think you are fooling? nm rhett o rick Feb 2014 #40

going to make up my own mind too treestar Feb 2014 #59

No. Marr Feb 2014 #14

Nope! neverforget Feb 2014 #15

I do NOT support it. CaliforniaPeggy Feb 2014 #19

Brave Defenders of the Powers That Be. truebluegreen Feb 2014 #22

Fierce Advocacy! For "Change"! blkmusclmachine Feb 2014 #48

google this tpp frwrfpos Feb 2014 #20

NO. truebluegreen Feb 2014 #21

yep frwrfpos Feb 2014 #23

As was its only intent, ever. The betrayal by Clinton has been grievously understated as a result Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #52

No, never...nt GReedDiamond Feb 2014 #24

Hell no. These scams have been an obvious disaster Armstead Feb 2014 #25

But you can't rattle the minds of the faithful, they'll have a "look see" first. Phlem Feb 2014 #78

Just keep shifting the jobs and wages to every other country ... MindMover Feb 2014 #28

Kill It Now. Kill It Dead. jsr Feb 2014 #29

Just say NO to the TPP !!!!!!!!!! SamKnause Feb 2014 #30

AbsoFUCKINGlutely NOT!! eridani Feb 2014 #31

I do not support it, and will not vote for democrats who do. liberal_at_heart Feb 2014 #32

It's hard to support something written by multinational corporations Warpy Feb 2014 #33

I do not. cherokeeprogressive Feb 2014 #37

I do not support it. It will suck even more jobs out of the US and turn our country into one huge JDPriestly Feb 2014 #38

Hell no. roody Feb 2014 #39

Absolutely not. Vashta Nerada Feb 2014 #42

No. WillyT Feb 2014 #43

Oh Hell No! nm rhett o rick Feb 2014 #44

Not only no but hell no. zeemike Feb 2014 #45

NO I DO NOT SUPPORT TPP (little good that will do--DEMS have SOLD OUT to the highest bidder!) blkmusclmachine Feb 2014 #46

NO! merrily Feb 2014 #51

HELL NO! cui bono Feb 2014 #53

Hell NO newfie11 Feb 2014 #54

No. PowerToThePeople Feb 2014 #56

No! KoKo Feb 2014 #57

I do not support it. City Lights Feb 2014 #58

Not a Wall St investor, so, no. nt raouldukelives Feb 2014 #60

NOT AT ALL! FiveGoodMen Feb 2014 #61

no. highmindedhavi Feb 2014 #62

kick frwrfpos Feb 2014 #63

I am in no way against all trade agreements. NCTraveler Feb 2014 #64

"The avalanche has already started, it is too late for the pebbles to vote..." LanternWaste Feb 2014 #68

NO nt LiberalEsto Feb 2014 #69

No. Starry Messenger Feb 2014 #70

Only a corporatist tool could support it. DefenseLawyer Feb 2014 #72

+1000000 woo me with science Feb 2014 #75

No Jetboy Feb 2014 #73

Hell no Aerows Feb 2014 #74

No Freaking Way. peacebird Feb 2014 #76

If it's so good for us, why keep things secret and fast track it? Phlem Feb 2014 #77

Not a chance in hell. I don't support a race to the bottom. Ed Suspicious Feb 2014 #80

I really want to see and understand what the final outcome will be. BO is a cagey one. nt kelliekat44 Feb 2014 #82

thank you for all the responses frwrfpos Feb 2014 #83

Not! sabrina 1 Feb 2014 #84

kick frwrfpos Feb 2014 #85

NOT ananda Feb 2014 #86

Hell no. woo me with science Feb 2014 #87

NAFTA on steroids? Absolutely not. bullwinkle428 Feb 2014 #88