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westerebus

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280. It is all about the hokey pokey.

Thu Feb 20, 2014, 09:58 PM

Feb 2014

Cui bono, I'm not under attack.

I don't think you are either.

I do think, as others have said, there might be a more positive means of introduction.

That is not a criticism of the message or the messenger.

Many think the introduction is justified and like you, said so.

It is a disagreement on who in the audience has a difference take on what it means to them.

Separate from this is the message of the Op.

I don't think anyone here condones the murder of innocent persons.

I think we agree on this.

I think everyone here on DU wants an end to the violence.

I think we agree on this too.

How do we change this?

Good question, if I do say so myself.

I don't have that answer.

I can tell you what I do know.

I know my white privilege helped fund the the democratic platform here in Virginia.

That is what my privilege does.

Can you sing: Ding Dong the cooch is gone!

A family member is a very happy camper.

Which makes me just as happy.

On that positive note, I'll say good night.

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Dear White America: Its time to get the message [View all] sheshe2 Feb 2014 OP

Does it matter to you that some of us old white men upaloopa Feb 2014 #1

the message is for the racists JI7 Feb 2014 #2

Looks to me like the message is for "White America". cherokeeprogressive Feb 2014 #20

Then why did my stomach just churn. Maraya1969 Feb 2014 #23

I don't know- I thought it was a smart, sad, thought provoking post showing amazing activism ... bettyellen Feb 2014 #119

The hurtful part was the fact that these black people had and have to do anything to gain Maraya1969 Feb 2014 #121

Tks. For the thoughtful reply. Hate to say it, bettyellen Feb 2014 #122

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2014 #330

I think you're right. marble falls Feb 2014 #261

Then why does it start with AgingAmerican Feb 2014 #47

because it addresses a culture,institution as it is JI7 Feb 2014 #78

No. It is a call out. westerebus Feb 2014 #107

American Culture includes Racism, and yes there are racists on DU and they are not progressives JI7 Feb 2014 #108

Yes it does. westerebus Feb 2014 #111

just because YOU don't see it noiretextatique Feb 2014 #200

True. There are none so blind as those who will not see. IrishAyes Mar 2014 #323

To be honest, there really *isn't* a widespread (actual) racism issue on DU. AverageJoe90 Feb 2014 #208

Many white people here are dismissive of the black community. bettyellen Feb 2014 #124

How do we change that? westerebus Feb 2014 #146

"How do we change that?" is exactly the right question. M0rpheus Feb 2014 #173

if you look at some bizarre reactions here- imagining that this is about ALL white people?!? bettyellen Feb 2014 #176

Yes, and it reminds me of the reaction to the threads about objectifying women and, cui bono Feb 2014 #216

I'm glad you are able to express yourself honestly. westerebus Feb 2014 #269

Post removed Post removed Mar 2014 #331

But the message is to "White America" not White DU. cui bono Feb 2014 #218

It is all about the hokey pokey. westerebus Feb 2014 #280

So well said, Westerbus! Isoldeblue Feb 2014 #256

No, none of that matters. Whites are bad, bad people. Simply because their skin is white. Skip Intro Feb 2014 #3

No one said we are bad people here. hrmjustin Feb 2014 #38

well, there are some white people that should be lectured on racism. kwassa Feb 2014 #46

"Dear White America" doesn't focus on skin color? Skip Intro Feb 2014 #49

no, that is not what I'm saying. "Dear White America" focuses on a culture. kwassa Feb 2014 #57

Sure...an ENTIRE culture, a good portion of which works against racism. Lizzie Poppet Feb 2014 #59

Yes. n/t Skip Intro Feb 2014 #70

Some of it does. Much of it doesn't. kwassa Feb 2014 #72

That doesn't change the fact that police are likely to kill blacks more than whites. cui bono Feb 2014 #104

Perspective indeed, cui bono. sheshe2 Feb 2014 #193

Link to this mystical "good portion" and their "work" please? bettyellen Feb 2014 #120

I shouldn't even get involved, but....you're joking, right? CANDO Feb 2014 #191

yeah- stats that show a "good portion" of white america is doing something now... bettyellen Feb 2014 #192

I'm not offended by the OP. CANDO Feb 2014 #195

people re-post activists' messaging from blogs all the time here and no one takes it personally- bettyellen Feb 2014 #205

Okay, this is the way I perceive it theHandpuppet Feb 2014 #147

Actually,that's an awesome explanation. sufrommich Feb 2014 #149

There's literally nothing you need to add to that. nt M0rpheus Feb 2014 #151

Thanks to both of you theHandpuppet Feb 2014 #154

You are a beautiful Spirit RedRoses323 Feb 2014 #158

It came through loud and clear. M0rpheus Feb 2014 #161

I just don't know where/how folks find the strength to endure it theHandpuppet Feb 2014 #163

We find it because... What other choice is there? M0rpheus Feb 2014 #164

True RedRoses323 Feb 2014 #268

No, you explained yourself perfectly, and make very good points. Lizzie Poppet Feb 2014 #169

Yes, many of us can all draw some parallels in our lives in order to understand theHandpuppet Feb 2014 #171

Eloquently stated. cinnabonbon Feb 2014 #194

I love you. Seriously. Number23 Feb 2014 #249

I don't suppose it could have read "dear white supremicists" hfojvt Feb 2014 #68

+100. n/t Skip Intro Feb 2014 #75

It could have. kwassa Feb 2014 #76

but it DOES apply to me because of the way it was written hfojvt Feb 2014 #85

Yes, you are more important than dead black kids. jeff47 Feb 2014 #94

she may easily have been attacking herself hfojvt Feb 2014 #106

White people who are ashamed that they are white? kwassa Feb 2014 #140

I don't take it as a misinterpretation hfojvt Feb 2014 #211

White America can still be seen as racist kwassa Feb 2014 #222

Late as I am returning to this thread to read all responses, IrishAyes Mar 2014 #324

has always argued and brought heaven05 Feb 2014 #244

Again, the fact that you are upset about it shows the problem. jeff47 Feb 2014 #152

Superb takedown. IrishAyes Feb 2014 #170

you keep alluding to an emotional state and feelings hfojvt Feb 2014 #198

so you are suggesting black deal with those "killed by other black people" before they are allowed bettyellen Feb 2014 #231

Oh my God. You just won this thread. And NO ONE deserves that smack down more than the one Number23 Feb 2014 #250

It says black lives matter, but you read "white people suck"? bettyellen Feb 2014 #126

When a rock is thrown into a pack of wild dogs, the one that yelps is the one that got hit. Ikonoklast Feb 2014 #196

usual suspect heaven05 Feb 2014 #243

How about just "Dear America"? (n/t) WorseBeforeBetter Feb 2014 #77

Do you think only white supremacists are racist? Did supremacists write the SYG law? cui bono Feb 2014 #105

Exactly. White supremacists, a small sliver of the population, are not the problem. Squinch Feb 2014 #136

You know the complaining here is akin to the complaining about "repressing male urges" cui bono Feb 2014 #209

The parallel is striking. nt Democracyinkind Feb 2014 #213

And it's many of the same people too. Squinch Feb 2014 #221

Must it be all about you? Really? Squinch Feb 2014 #63

Voicing an opinion. It's kinda what makes forums work. n/t Skip Intro Feb 2014 #67

An opinion that you are more important than dead black kids. (nt) jeff47 Feb 2014 #93

And over the shark we go. n/t Skip Intro Feb 2014 #95

Hey, it's your opinion. You must be proud of it if you're going to write up a post expressing it. jeff47 Feb 2014 #96

Yikes. n/t Skip Intro Feb 2014 #97

Bingo. Perfection Number23 Feb 2014 #99

I would add to this that this isn't really about Squinch Feb 2014 #134

This. nt sufrommich Feb 2014 #167

Exactly. This is the truth about all social issues. cui bono Feb 2014 #224

Scissor kick RedRoses323 Feb 2014 #162

No, you're stirring the pot. Whole different ballgame. IrishAyes Mar 2014 #325

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2014 #332

(sigh) Don't twist the OP like a pretzel to justify your snark. It's unbecoming, IrishAyes Feb 2014 #168

you lecture us on when you think you see examples of racism against whites CreekDog Feb 2014 #233

If it's not about you, feel free to ignore it. Sheldon Cooper Feb 2014 #5

Yeh know I wish I could JackInGreen Feb 2014 #33

Well, then what are you doing to improve the situation??? nomorenomore08 Feb 2014 #112

I don't know why. Sheldon Cooper Feb 2014 #129

I really can't understand why so many people take this personally. smirkymonkey Feb 2014 #299

+1 freshwest Mar 2014 #306

Well, for one I am white too, upaloopa. sheshe2 Feb 2014 #7

If you were aware enough in the 60's to march. M0rpheus Feb 2014 #10

You call white people out then say upaloopa Feb 2014 #12

So was I and that doesn't make you or me Isoldeblue Feb 2014 #19

No I am not upaloopa Feb 2014 #34

+1 Squinch Feb 2014 #74

I *try* to be measured in my responses here on DU in general, M0rpheus Feb 2014 #30

Then quit with the White America shit! upaloopa Feb 2014 #35

Wow... A Tad Sensitive Are We ??? WillyT Feb 2014 #48

First, I'm not the OP, so this is not "shit" *I* started. M0rpheus Feb 2014 #61

Ahem JustAnotherGen Feb 2014 #128

Wow. This is an interesting post. gollygee Feb 2014 #123

If you persist in thinking that the life situation of one person is all about YOU, IrishAyes Feb 2014 #172

You always nail it, dear IrishAyes. n/t freshwest Mar 2014 #311

You must admit I've benefited from some great mentoring here. Especially in the BOG, if I IrishAyes Mar 2014 #315

Yes, we probably need to visit there more often! Just haven't been posting many OPs, lately! freshwest Mar 2014 #316

Well there you are~ sheshe2 Mar 2014 #318

Nope, no politics allowed in my fiction. That's because they're fiction, ya know? If I wrote for FNN freshwest Mar 2014 #319

Yes writing for FNN.. sheshe2 Mar 2014 #321

I'm sure you have stories to tell! IrishAyes Mar 2014 #322

white american culture is responsible for american racism. Period heaven05 Feb 2014 #248

This white woman wishes white America would get your message too. Squinch Feb 2014 #58

It's par for the course here on these threads. M0rpheus Feb 2014 #65

I know. And the irony of them insisting on taking a post personally - when Squinch Feb 2014 #71

I really have no patience for the willfully ignorant. M0rpheus Feb 2014 #86

I am so tired Squinch Feb 2014 #137

Mo, you make me so proud. Number23 Feb 2014 #98

Bingo, M0rpheus! Well said. sheshe2 Feb 2014 #103

"Allies shouldn't need us to hold their hands on this. It is not personally about you. " bettyellen Feb 2014 #117

*Googles "big foam hand/finger injuries"* M0rpheus Feb 2014 #150

"Allies shouldn't need us to hold their hands on this." Yes, this. Exactly. RBStevens Feb 2014 #199

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I'm white people, too, and I don't take it personally. kwassa Feb 2014 #42

One Issue With It RobinA Feb 2014 #179

But it didn't say "people" it said "America". Very different. cui bono Feb 2014 #228

Why do you get turned off? kwassa Feb 2014 #276

This message was self-deleted by its author nomorenomore08 Feb 2014 #113

You really need perspective. How can you not agree that "white america" is a problem? cui bono Feb 2014 #226

I'm pretty damned white. I don't feel 'called out' by this or anything like it. n/t freshwest Mar 2014 #307

I don't see anything wrong with this and I am white. cui bono Feb 2014 #28

Do you have any notion that sometimes a thing isn't ABOUT you? Scootaloo Feb 2014 #62

Many individuals of privileged class lack the ability to understand that premise. Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #64

It's important for white America to recognize white privelege duhneece Feb 2014 #257

Everyone of those is true and should be heard by all. It's no way to live, being treated like that! freshwest Mar 2014 #308

Yes, It matters ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2014 #260

Some of us old white women 840high Feb 2014 #302

"There is not a black America and a white America... Make7 Feb 2014 #4

Ideals are great, aren't they? nt M0rpheus Feb 2014 #11

and if we want to get close to it we can't ignore reality JI7 Feb 2014 #13

Exactly. nt M0rpheus Feb 2014 #15

+100. n/t Skip Intro Feb 2014 #54

Except when it comes to convicting people for murdering black teens who are doing things that teens Squinch Feb 2014 #66

I was merely trying to point out a unifying message... Make7 Feb 2014 #82

That language is the ideal we should aspire to. M0rpheus Feb 2014 #90

Have you seen how inclusive the language is at ColorOfChange.org? Make7 Feb 2014 #267

I've purposely avoided the topic of tone. M0rpheus Feb 2014 #278

some people are more offended by this thread title than the fact zimmerman and dunn JI7 Feb 2014 #92

Seriously. cui bono Feb 2014 #101

Because they're fucking narcissists! Their precious, precious fee-fees are the only thing nomorenomore08 Feb 2014 #115

I wish it was surprising. The usernames engaged in it are *especially* not. nt redqueen Feb 2014 #178

They come flooding out like rats in a broken sewer line whenever race threads are posted. Starry Messenger Feb 2014 #225

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Its important to listen to the experience of others etherealtruth Feb 2014 #6

Sometimes I feel as if we're trapped in a time warp theHandpuppet Feb 2014 #8

Recommended! And, please watch out for 4 year old Anala Beevers. NYC_SKP Feb 2014 #9

Thanks Skp! sheshe2 Feb 2014 #14

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2014 #329

Big K&R nt TBF Feb 2014 #16

As an old white guy living in a white area, and knowing that a whole bunch ... Scuba Feb 2014 #17

Hey Scuba! sheshe2 Feb 2014 #27

! BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2014 #51

. Squinch Feb 2014 #79

Bryan Stevenson: We need to talk about an injustice etherealtruth Feb 2014 #18

Here's the video and an explanation how to do it at DU: freshwest Mar 2014 #309

Thank you! etherealtruth Mar 2014 #314

k&r one_voice Feb 2014 #21

I really liked that one in particular. Behind the Aegis Feb 2014 #37

I am grateful to those like you, she Isoldeblue Feb 2014 #22

Hey Isoldeblue :) sheshe2 Feb 2014 #24

You heart is full of sunshine and rainbows! That's a good thing! n/t freshwest Mar 2014 #317

Hey sweetie, sheshe2 Mar 2014 #320

Good message OP lib87 Feb 2014 #25

:) Thanks lib87! sheshe2 Feb 2014 #26

Awesome. Thanks for reminding me to go check out #dangerousblackkids. cui bono Feb 2014 #29

Hey, cui bono. sheshe2 Feb 2014 #31

Oh wow! I was thinking of posting an OP on my 10,000th. cui bono Feb 2014 #32

Congrats on 10,000 posts and you can still do an OP. hrmjustin Feb 2014 #36

Thank you. cui bono Feb 2014 #100

I really believe that this is the death rattle of overt racisim in America... Walk away Feb 2014 #39

There certainly has been sheshe2 Feb 2014 #44

Thank you for this thread. Behind the Aegis Feb 2014 #40

Thank you Behind the Aegis! sheshe2 Feb 2014 #45

You are quite welcome. Behind the Aegis Feb 2014 #73

Again, from the bottom of my heart, thank you. sheshe2 Feb 2014 #87

Not only black but justhanginon Feb 2014 #175

I see our President as a role model for everyone - but POC have a special need to overcome the freshwest Mar 2014 #310

Excellent OP,thanks for sharing it. nt sufrommich Feb 2014 #41

I Understand & Applaud the Intent of Your OP cer7711 Feb 2014 #43

THIS is a FANTASTIC INSPIRATION. Great activism on the part of the groups shown. BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2014 #50

That's why I love ya Blanche! sheshe2 Feb 2014 #56

awwww thanks, she! BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2014 #60

White woman checking in here to say that I take Zero offense at this post. Marie Marie Feb 2014 #52

I know, Marie Marie, those sweet families lost the most valuable sheshe2 Feb 2014 #83

Shout out to the Gaithersburg high chapter of B.R.O.T.H.E.R.S. Inc kwassa Feb 2014 #53

Great post! imthevicar Feb 2014 #55

Sounds like a great site treestar Feb 2014 #69

I get so much pushback on racial issues and I'm white ismnotwasm Feb 2014 #80

I get that, too, and its not a rare occurance cprise Feb 2014 #230

You don't have to be black to be on the Color of Change mailing list eridani Feb 2014 #81

I'm picturing Smartypants as Kim "Do the Right Thing" Basinger... SMC22307 Feb 2014 #84

Why would you add "fucking" if you're just going to censor it? ZombieHorde Feb 2014 #102

It's not my add, it's a direct quote from the OP... SMC22307 Feb 2014 #284

Oh, I see. It's further into the OP. ZombieHorde Feb 2014 #288

Just for the heck of it... SMC22307 Feb 2014 #291

This isn't even remotely close to "white bashing." Behind the Aegis Feb 2014 #110

This post needs a *drops mic* M0rpheus Feb 2014 #145

+1000 JustAnotherGen Feb 2014 #155

As usual, you've hit the nail on its proverbial head theHandpuppet Feb 2014 #160

So many hateful statements rolled into one post. sheshe2 Feb 2014 #202

And also "hey women folks..." cui bono Feb 2014 #234

I believe the OP is accusatory... SMC22307 Feb 2014 #285

I remember 90% of those disgusting posts, but didn't reply. They are a lost cause! n/t freshwest Mar 2014 #312

"white bashing"??? Did you seriously just write that??? Sheldon Cooper Feb 2014 #130

Yes. SMC22307 Feb 2014 #287

But in a 'post-racial' America, why do whites still identify as white? Methinks those worried about freshwest Mar 2014 #313

Well, I guess this answers the question about whether the post will make you Squinch Feb 2014 #135

Welcome Back! RandiFan1290 Feb 2014 #144

I've been here over a year... SMC22307 Feb 2014 #289

Ah, the tone argument. gollygee Feb 2014 #182

Tone matters. SMC22307 Feb 2014 #293

You and I don't get to choose other people's tone gollygee Feb 2014 #295

Did I say we did? But if the tone isn't palatable to an audience... SMC22307 Feb 2014 #296

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white bashing? sounds like you need a break and a reality check. bettyellen Feb 2014 #188

Not from colorofchange.org or #dangerousblackkids... SMC22307 Feb 2014 #294

Just a FYI, you're doing exactly what you're supposed to do. Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #88

Right? Like- Why isn't there a white history month?!?! Did She She ever think about that? *sarcasm* bettyellen Feb 2014 #118

Yes sheshe2 Feb 2014 #203

much appreciated Quayblue Feb 2014 #89

K&R Sissyk Feb 2014 #91

K&R Solly Mack Feb 2014 #109

I'm not offended gwheezie Feb 2014 #114

for the life of me, I do not get the offense taken here. do black lives not matter? is it hurting bettyellen Feb 2014 #116

Oh come on, bettyellen. Sheldon Cooper Feb 2014 #131

The offense is to the implication that they would think otherwise. WatermelonRat Feb 2014 #239

people post activist stuff here ALL THE TIME that could be- but isn't taken personally.... bettyellen Feb 2014 #240

I don't understand it either. What part of that post is harmful? nt cinnabonbon Feb 2014 #264

We're been screaming this for so long malaise Feb 2014 #125

K&R. nt DLevine Feb 2014 #127

Beautiful. MadrasT Feb 2014 #132

I'm an Angry Old White Male and I APPROVE this message. The Traveler Feb 2014 #133

Throw the mic! JustAnotherGen Feb 2014 #138

It's class warfare cprise Feb 2014 #232

Well this thread has been an eye opener. sufrommich Feb 2014 #139

Yes, for me as well. DLevine Feb 2014 #143

Let me tell you a secret. 1awake Feb 2014 #141

so "white america" remains above reproach, because you feel like it. And yes, it is whining. bettyellen Feb 2014 #181

Reproach all you want, I'm just not liking the stereotype. n/t 1awake Feb 2014 #185

white america is not a sterotype- it is a huge segment of our country- and how would anyone address bettyellen Feb 2014 #187

I prefer Italian American. I would prefer wop over being called white. 1awake Feb 2014 #190

You aren't a legal citizen or alien? JustAnotherGen Feb 2014 #254

Yes! 1awake Feb 2014 #259

My husband JustAnotherGen Feb 2014 #262

"Whiteness" is nothing more than a construct. a Potemkin Village as it were. AverageJoe90 Feb 2014 #212

Great post AverageJoe90 1awake Feb 2014 #217

omg... are you fucking kidding me??? cui bono Feb 2014 #235

What... did they overturn that iffy hockey shot the US made???? n/t 1awake Feb 2014 #238

If you are going to try to educate me on racism... Ticktock Feb 2014 #142

Pointing out to people of 1 skin color that people of another skin color = not-credible? uppityperson Feb 2014 #153

not exactly Ticktock Feb 2014 #156

Except it didn't say "wake up white people" but "Dear White America" uppityperson Feb 2014 #157

Quote from OP Ticktock Feb 2014 #165

Thread title " Dear White America:" uppityperson Feb 2014 #166

Right... Ticktock Feb 2014 #174

what "negative behaviors of a sub section of the black community" are hurting ALL whites? bettyellen Feb 2014 #180

well you're still asleep heaven05 Feb 2014 #270

I am not offended by the thread title Harmony Blue Feb 2014 #148

Bravo RedRoses323 Feb 2014 #159

K&R!!! redqueen Feb 2014 #177

I couldn't agree more. WHEN CRABS ROAR Feb 2014 #183

Great OP as always, sheshe. IrishAyes Feb 2014 #184

Thanks Irish, sheshe2 Feb 2014 #220

Mahalo, she. Cha Feb 2014 #186

Good to see you Cha. sheshe2 Feb 2014 #245

U2 Cha Feb 2014 #279

Whew, what a relief, people here are as clueless about racism as they are about Warren Stupidity Feb 2014 #189

As one of the HOF people that make DU suck, Sheldon Cooper Feb 2014 #197

+1,000 wryter2000 Feb 2014 #219

this reminds of the cosby incident noiretextatique Feb 2014 #201

Well stated, and thank you sheshe!!!! Tarheel_Dem Feb 2014 #204

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2014 #206

Before I could respond, it was gone. kwassa Feb 2014 #210

Patience, she'll be back. Rather like that eveready bunny. uppityperson Feb 2014 #277

I like the overall post and stuff. Very good. AverageJoe90 Feb 2014 #207

I don't see why white DUers have to see this as a personal insult wryter2000 Feb 2014 #214

From "black lives matter" to "this OP IS RACIST!!11!!" Democracyinkind Feb 2014 #215

My goodness, there are some sensitive white people on this thread FiveGoodMen Feb 2014 #223

So many of the replies in this thread need this .gif Starry Messenger Feb 2014 #227

oh my gosh, that gif. cinnabonbon Feb 2014 #265

i don't think this guys gets its noiretextatique Feb 2014 #229

I was just at that link. sheshe2 Feb 2014 #236

K&R! hrmjustin Feb 2014 #237

I guess I did justin. sheshe2 Feb 2014 #246

VERY GLAD to see a Hispanic and Asian in with the mix! yuiyoshida Feb 2014 #241

my local high school, too. kwassa Feb 2014 #273

I find that the usual suspects are heaven05 Feb 2014 #242

"the usual suspects" Yep, and there is a reason that they are the "usual suspects" Number23 Feb 2014 #252

I noticed their absense as well but this pot is well stirred without them. nt M0rpheus Feb 2014 #258

Check out this post: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014733706 IrishAyes Feb 2014 #247

I am a white Amerciam male, and I just recommended this OP! DontTreadOnMe Feb 2014 #251

Well done, sheshe. Well done Number23 Feb 2014 #253

Thank you Number23. sheshe2 Feb 2014 #283

"Stand Your Ground" affords whites new special rights ... napkinz Feb 2014 #255

The graphics are painfully true, napkinz. sheshe2 Feb 2014 #266

regarding SYG affording whites special rights, another way of saying it ... napkinz Feb 2014 #297

I'm ambivalent about the choice of subject line, but K&R for content. n/t lumberjack_jeff Feb 2014 #263

Broad brush "messaging" shows incredible ignorance, no matter WestSeattle2 Feb 2014 #271

and what precisely is ignorant? kwassa Feb 2014 #272

That's what schools are for. I suggest you enroll. WestSeattle2 Feb 2014 #274

Oh, please, that is just pathetic. kwassa Feb 2014 #275

OK, kwassa, let's start at the top. Communications - basic communications. When you're crafting WestSeattle2 Feb 2014 #281

I am glad you could arouse yourself enough from your torpor ... kwassa Feb 2014 #282

Well, I'm not offended. Now, back to work. nt Eleanors38 Feb 2014 #286

Thank you for the OP, but I have an off question for you. ZombieHorde Feb 2014 #290

The author is at the link above. I didn't write it. sheshe2 Feb 2014 #298

Shucks! Thanks anway. nt ZombieHorde Feb 2014 #300

I've often thought that America's strength is not in it's diversity.. clarice Feb 2014 #292

Not offended at all AnalystInParadise Feb 2014 #301

I can't for the life of me figure out why some people feel compelled to take offense at this BainsBane Feb 2014 #303

+1000! NOLALady Feb 2014 #304

Sigh~ sheshe2 Feb 2014 #305

I love DU and you, for this. We believe in the right things, always. babylonsister Mar 2014 #326

I re-read this OP tonight, sheshe2 Mar 2014 #327