This is NOT about the evils of straight, white, men, BUT, it is about the reality of one gay man.

[frazzled]

22. My understanding

of your reaction to what I said is that women, as usual, have no right to bring up their issues here. Well, I was bringing up my issue (with respect to the tone of your post), and I don't particularly care what you think of that. It's something I learned from participating in ActUp demonstrations back in the 90s.

So no, I do not have an issue with "gays": it is entirely insulting and accusatory to say that, and nothing in my post should suggest that to you. (Go into any pertinent thread and you will clearly see that that presumption is entirely unfounded.) My gay nephew would completely stand in solidarity with me on this issue, and on my post. Perhaps that is because he has a daughter. But he was completely aligned with feminist issues well before he and his husband adopted their daughter. So no, this is not about gay people. And no, I was not being accusatory. I honestly did not, and still do not, understand the purpose of your bringing up "your" issue in the context of SWM feeling under attack on DU. It doesn't follow at all from the premise.

Honestly, I was bewildered by your post. I'm even more bewildered by your response. We'll just have to agree that we do not understand each other, not one little bit. And that has nothing to do with gayness or not.