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In reply to the discussion: There seems to be DU angst regarding ... [View all]"Obama has legitmized the destruction of safty nets. "
...bullshit. The health care law strengthened Medicare.
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MEDICARES FINANCIAL CONDITION
Medicares financial condition is measured in several ways, including the solvency of the Part A Trust Fund, the annual growth in spending, and growth in spending on a per capita basis. Average annual growth in total Medicare spending is projected to be 6.6% between 2010 and 2019, but 3.5% on a per capita basis (assuming no reduction in physician fees).
The Part A Trust Fund is projected to be depleted in 2024 eight years longer than in the absence of the health reform lawat which point Medicare would not have sufficient funds to pay full benefits, even though revenue flows into the Trust Fund each year. Part A Trust Fund solvency is affected by growth in the economy, which directly affects revenue from payroll tax contributions, and by demographic trends: an increasing number of beneficiaries, especially between 2010 and 2030 when the baby boom generation reaches Medicare eligibility age, and a declining ratio of workers per beneficiary making payroll contributions (Figure 4).
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http://www.kff.org/medicare/upload/7305-06.pdf
MEDICARES FINANCIAL CONDITION
Medicares financial condition is measured in several ways, including the solvency of the Part A Trust Fund, the annual growth in spending, and growth in spending on a per capita basis. Average annual growth in total Medicare spending is projected to be 6.6% between 2010 and 2019, but 3.5% on a per capita basis (assuming no reduction in physician fees).
The Part A Trust Fund is projected to be depleted in 2024 eight years longer than in the absence of the health reform lawat which point Medicare would not have sufficient funds to pay full benefits, even though revenue flows into the Trust Fund each year. Part A Trust Fund solvency is affected by growth in the economy, which directly affects revenue from payroll tax contributions, and by demographic trends: an increasing number of beneficiaries, especially between 2010 and 2030 when the baby boom generation reaches Medicare eligibility age, and a declining ratio of workers per beneficiary making payroll contributions (Figure 4).
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http://www.kff.org/medicare/upload/7305-06.pdf
In addition to expanding Medicaid, the ACA increased the Medicaid drug rebate percentage.
http://www.medicaid.gov/AffordableCareAct/Timeline/Timeline.html
Medicaid Drug Rebate Program
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The Medicaid Drug Rebate Program is a partnership between CMS, State Medicaid Agencies, and participating drug manufacturers that helps to offset the Federal and State costs of most outpatient prescription drugs dispensed to Medicaid patients. Approximately 600 drug manufacturers currently participate in this program. All fifty States and the District of Columbia cover prescription drugs under the Medicaid Drug Rebate Program, which is authorized by Section 1927 of the Social Security Act.
The program requires a drug manufacturer to enter into, and have in effect, a national rebate agreement with the Secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) in exchange for State Medicaid coverage of most of the manufacturers drugs. When a manufacturers markets a new drug and electronically lists it with the FDA, they must also submit the drug to the Drug Data Reporting (DDR) system. This ensures that states are aware of the newly marketed drug. In addition, Section II(g) of the Rebate Agreement explains that labelers are responsible for notifying states of a new drugs coverage. Labelers are required to report all covered outpatient drugs under their labeler code to the Medicaid Drug Rebate Program. They may not be selective in reporting their NDC's to the program. Manufacturers are then responsible for paying a rebate on those drugs each time that they are dispensed to Medicaid patients. These rebates are paid by drug manufacturers on a quarterly basis and are shared between the States and the Federal government to offset the overall cost of prescription drugs under the Medicaid Program.
http://www.medicaid.gov/Medicaid-CHIP-Program-Information/By-Topics/Benefits/Prescription-Drugs/Medicaid-Drug-Rebate-Program.html
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The Medicaid Drug Rebate Program is a partnership between CMS, State Medicaid Agencies, and participating drug manufacturers that helps to offset the Federal and State costs of most outpatient prescription drugs dispensed to Medicaid patients. Approximately 600 drug manufacturers currently participate in this program. All fifty States and the District of Columbia cover prescription drugs under the Medicaid Drug Rebate Program, which is authorized by Section 1927 of the Social Security Act.
The program requires a drug manufacturer to enter into, and have in effect, a national rebate agreement with the Secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) in exchange for State Medicaid coverage of most of the manufacturers drugs. When a manufacturers markets a new drug and electronically lists it with the FDA, they must also submit the drug to the Drug Data Reporting (DDR) system. This ensures that states are aware of the newly marketed drug. In addition, Section II(g) of the Rebate Agreement explains that labelers are responsible for notifying states of a new drugs coverage. Labelers are required to report all covered outpatient drugs under their labeler code to the Medicaid Drug Rebate Program. They may not be selective in reporting their NDC's to the program. Manufacturers are then responsible for paying a rebate on those drugs each time that they are dispensed to Medicaid patients. These rebates are paid by drug manufacturers on a quarterly basis and are shared between the States and the Federal government to offset the overall cost of prescription drugs under the Medicaid Program.
http://www.medicaid.gov/Medicaid-CHIP-Program-Information/By-Topics/Benefits/Prescription-Drugs/Medicaid-Drug-Rebate-Program.html
Medicaid has one of the best drug policies, much better than Medicare.
Issue Brief - Medicare Drug Negotiation and Rebates
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Best Price. A third argument is that it makes sense for Medicare to receive the best price available for prescription drugs, just like Medicaid and the VA. In Medicaid, the drug manufacturer provides the federal government discounts for drugs, which are shared with the states. The discount is either the minimum drug amount or an amount based on the best price paid by private drug purchasers, whichever is less. Current law requires drug companies to charge Medicaid 23 percent less than the average price they receive for the sale of a drug to retail pharmacies. Drug companies also must provide another discount if a drugs price rises faster than the rate of inflation (Thomas and Pear, 2013)...Medicaid rebates, if applied to Part D, would save the federal government money. According to a 2011 study conducted by the Office of the Inspector General (OIG) for the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, Medicaid rebates were three times greater than the discounts negotiated by Part D for 100 brand name drugs. In 68 of these drugs, Medicaid rebates were twice as high as rebates granted by the drug companies for Medicare drugs (OIG HHS, 2011; Hulsey, 2013). Similarly, a 2008 study of drug pricing information by the U.S. House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform found that Part D paid, on average, 30 percent more for drugs than Medicaid (Hulsey, 2013).
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http://www.ncpssm.org/PublicPolicy/Medicare/Documents/ArticleID/1138/Issue-Brief-Medicare-Drug-Negotiation-and-Rebates
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Best Price. A third argument is that it makes sense for Medicare to receive the best price available for prescription drugs, just like Medicaid and the VA. In Medicaid, the drug manufacturer provides the federal government discounts for drugs, which are shared with the states. The discount is either the minimum drug amount or an amount based on the best price paid by private drug purchasers, whichever is less. Current law requires drug companies to charge Medicaid 23 percent less than the average price they receive for the sale of a drug to retail pharmacies. Drug companies also must provide another discount if a drugs price rises faster than the rate of inflation (Thomas and Pear, 2013)...Medicaid rebates, if applied to Part D, would save the federal government money. According to a 2011 study conducted by the Office of the Inspector General (OIG) for the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, Medicaid rebates were three times greater than the discounts negotiated by Part D for 100 brand name drugs. In 68 of these drugs, Medicaid rebates were twice as high as rebates granted by the drug companies for Medicare drugs (OIG HHS, 2011; Hulsey, 2013). Similarly, a 2008 study of drug pricing information by the U.S. House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform found that Part D paid, on average, 30 percent more for drugs than Medicaid (Hulsey, 2013).
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http://www.ncpssm.org/PublicPolicy/Medicare/Documents/ArticleID/1138/Issue-Brief-Medicare-Drug-Negotiation-and-Rebates
The Stimulus worked.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024539986
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I think you are confused about the difference between understanding and agreement.
Lasher
Feb 2014
#31
Another point to remember. Social Security recipients vote overwhelmingly Republican. That puts
okaawhatever
Feb 2014
#23
Well....two thrids of Seniors voted Republican in 2012. One Third of Social Security
Bluenorthwest
Feb 2014
#71
And he said they are still on the table, even after he took them out of his budget.
Lasher
Feb 2014
#100
Then President Obama should stop calling for the cuts to SS in his budget negotiations.
Autumn
Feb 2014
#93
I won't argue with what the White House says, the offer remains on the table in event of new talks
Autumn
Feb 2014
#108
Don't you think that standing up for Democratic programs like Social Security is
neverforget
Feb 2014
#22
OK Republicans hate Social Security. How does that make Obama's proposed cuts any less real?
Lasher
Feb 2014
#48
You have no way of knowing that the media will later decide Obama is Social Security's savior.
Lasher
Feb 2014
#52
Obama said SS cuts are still on the table, even though they are not in his budget now.
Lasher
Feb 2014
#56
Just remember that the payroll tax cut also damaged the long term solvency of SS.
grahamhgreen
Feb 2014
#40
Let's not forget the elephant in the room here. SS recipients are now voting majority
okaawhatever
Feb 2014
#25
those are all entitlement programs and not just social security. I looked for the article I read but
okaawhatever
Feb 2014
#38
Here is the USA today results from the 2012 election. It shows Mitt won just over 55%
okaawhatever
Feb 2014
#47
Point being there are other offices, and that Obama in the debates said he and Mitt agreed
Bluenorthwest
Feb 2014
#75
But 'Seniors' and 'Social Security Beneficiaries' are not the same thing. 1/3 of beneficiaries are
Bluenorthwest
Feb 2014
#73
Only 2/3 of Social Security beneficiaries are over 65. One thrid is under 65.
Bluenorthwest
Feb 2014
#76
There is no one to peel, the premise is false no matter how often or stridently repeated.
TheKentuckian
Feb 2014
#50
I've often wondered if President Obama's CPI proposals might be on the sucker bait side.
IrishAyes
Feb 2014
#37
You are correct, but what he should have been advocating was a rise in the COLA formula,
Bluenorthwest
Feb 2014
#74
He didn't kill it but but but he made it fashionable to do so! (wiping froth) Eeeevil!
great white snark
Feb 2014
#102
bullshit. Obama has legitmized the destruction of safty nets. Anything goes now.
bowens43
Feb 2014
#80
I respectfully disagree -- This is how the agenda keeps getting shifted further to the right
Armstead
Feb 2014
#86
No I didn't frame my peception to fit the premise....I'd rather that my premise be wrong
Armstead
Feb 2014
#128
The problem I see with what you're saying is it relies on Republican voters either
Arcanetrance
Feb 2014
#107
You advocated that Chained CPI long and hard, here is my favorite of your Pro Chained CPI posts
Bluenorthwest
Feb 2014
#117
and then there are the posts about "disagreement is not the same as hating"
BlancheSplanchnik
Feb 2014
#142