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cali

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Fri Feb 21, 2014, 12:36 PM Feb 2014

Here's what Comcast and Verizon are doing to Netflix streaming- and this is a big deal [View all]

Many Netflix subscribers in the US have been noticing a troubling trend. Even with super-fast connections, video quality has been on a downward slide in recent months. While ISPs would never admit to anything, a number of reports claim the slowdown is part of a standoff over the cost of carrying all that Netflix traffic. It seems Comcast, Verizon, and the other big names are happy to let Netflix degrade to make a point.

Netflix itself confirms the streaming speeds on major ISPs has fallen by an average of 14% in just the last 30 days. That’s enough to degrade an HD stream to mediocre SD. Some subscribers can’t even watch video without constant buffering. In some cases, running traffic through a VPN can dramatically boost speeds, which is suspicious all by itself.

The Wall Street Journal reports that Netflix traffic through internet backbone provider Cogent has quadrupled in the last six months as Netflix has expanded 1080p HD streams to all customers. ISPs are upset about the increased cost of delivering those bits to subscribers and want Netflix to pay additional fees to cover its usage. In an effort to compel the streaming company to agree, ISPs have allegedly delayed connection upgrades that would alleviate the increasing congestion.

Most ISPs have peering relationships with bandwidth providers like Cogent. Each party carries a certain amount of data for the other, and no one has to pay any money out of pocket. However, the increase in Netflix traffic has unbalanced the agreements and could lead to ISPs paying larger bandwidth bills. With net neutrality currently on the ropes, perhaps ISPs feel more confident in trying to extract fees from Netflix to deliver its traffic. Although, no one is admitting to that, and Verizon specifically denies it.

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http://www.geek.com/news/why-netflix-streaming-is-getting-worse-and-worse-1585416/

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R&K for notice and attention 2banon Feb 2014 #1
I noticed it too yeoman6987 Feb 2014 #77
I finally dumped Verizon Cell 2banon Feb 2014 #80
Thanks... Xyzse Feb 2014 #2
Not much you can do. dixiegrrrrl Feb 2014 #3
I agree. Xyzse Feb 2014 #4
I think this is affecting pscot Feb 2014 #5
I haven't seen this yet with TWC but I'm sure it's on its way Fearless Feb 2014 #6
I have Armstead Feb 2014 #11
Great. What state? Fearless Feb 2014 #14
Mass...TW Cable Armstead Feb 2014 #23
Great. Fearless Feb 2014 #28
Me too. ananda Feb 2014 #67
TW Cable did this to us with Youtube, not Netflix in Missouri. cbdo2007 Feb 2014 #26
Pathetic. Fearless Feb 2014 #29
Haven't had any issues with TWC in Wi mockmonkey Feb 2014 #64
there is a youtube channel on Roku? dsc Feb 2014 #73
Plex mockmonkey Feb 2014 #90
I have. In Central New York. n/t Crunchy Frog Feb 2014 #66
R&K RBStevens Feb 2014 #7
Yeah I noticed it in past few weeks that TRoN33 Feb 2014 #8
I noticed it last week when Jawja Feb 2014 #71
Why should I pay the same price for my Internet services as my neighbor who is sucking up BlueStreak Feb 2014 #9
Is it reducing your service? fleabiscuit Feb 2014 #15
In the evenings, my bandwidth often drops to half. Moreover BlueStreak Feb 2014 #24
You apparently have cable. What you are seeing is your Internet provider not upgrading their RC Feb 2014 #38
Why should Comcast upgrade that, just to provide free bandwidth to a competitor? BlueStreak Feb 2014 #49
You subsidize the usps. Fearless Feb 2014 #60
My community has an 8-bag limit BlueStreak Feb 2014 #61
Their argument has no end Fearless Feb 2014 #62
They will get non-neutrality if we don't demand a different solution BlueStreak Feb 2014 #74
You have no idea what you're talking about. Fearless Feb 2014 #78
They are not sucking up your bandwidth. Fearless Feb 2014 #16
Infrastructure costs money. That fiber doesn't string itself. BlueStreak Feb 2014 #32
They have money. Bags of it tkmorris Feb 2014 #56
They aren't going to add enough capacity for everybody to stream Netflix BlueStreak Feb 2014 #58
They will and have. Simple supply and demand Fearless Feb 2014 #59
The part I don't get is why Progressive dog Feb 2014 #70
LOL. TransitJohn Feb 2014 #20
The proposition was never that they could run 10 Gbit a secon all day long BlueStreak Feb 2014 #31
Your argument is flawed because you and everyone else has a speed cap. RC Feb 2014 #39
Bingo TroglodyteScholar Feb 2014 #81
Well most people don't really understand how things work. RC Feb 2014 #86
It's not a shared resource. Or at least, it's not marketed as a shared resource. TransitJohn Feb 2014 #41
You know what. NO. You are paying for bandwith........... wandy Feb 2014 #48
I have teared service too. Every time I open the Comcast bill, I get tears. BlueStreak Feb 2014 #50
Ha Ha. Ok I'll share. I might have gotten luckey....... wandy Feb 2014 #57
Verizon is also in competition with NetFlix, Lionel Mandrake Feb 2014 #10
Pick your poison. Higher Netflix bill or higher internet bill. karadax Feb 2014 #12
Or get Google 1gig Internet. RC Feb 2014 #40
by the time it get around here i will have been dead for 20 years dembotoz Feb 2014 #85
You're probably correct. RC Feb 2014 #87
i sell business broadband and the old adage location, location location should really be sucks to be dembotoz Feb 2014 #88
They have to balance their greed for money with not letting the masses getting too much and too easy RC Feb 2014 #89
I'm noticing a lot more buffering delays on my Netflix NBachers Feb 2014 #13
Me too- I just called them and they claimed my router was set to a "busy channel" that disrupted bettyellen Feb 2014 #18
And more news from the Corporatocracy: kenny blankenship Feb 2014 #17
^ This should be an OP jsr Feb 2014 #22
+1 redqueen Feb 2014 #27
Holy shit! TroglodyteScholar Feb 2014 #83
ISPs want a cut of Netflix's money for doing nothing but being a middleman TransitJohn Feb 2014 #19
Recommend jsr Feb 2014 #21
This is not a big deal cthulu2016 Feb 2014 #25
What? ForgoTheConsequence Feb 2014 #30
Whatever. Enjoy your thought process. cthulu2016 Feb 2014 #34
Great comeback. ForgoTheConsequence Feb 2014 #35
So now I don't use Netflix? Hmmmm. Good to know. cthulu2016 Feb 2014 #44
Why would you subscribe to a parasitic service? ForgoTheConsequence Feb 2014 #47
If you think Netfix doesn't pay for bandwidth, you're as mistaken as you could possibly be DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2014 #42
How is Netflix parasitic? Of course they provide a service. DanTex Feb 2014 #51
I paid those entities for that bandwidth already jberryhill Feb 2014 #53
Why is it unreasonable to expect to utilize the bandwidth you pay for, regardless of purpose? stevenleser Feb 2014 #54
This sucks Politicalboi Feb 2014 #33
If this messes up my House of Cards marathon this weekend, I'm gonna be pissed... DanTex Feb 2014 #36
Me too. I have just two shows to go. ananda Feb 2014 #69
ALL THE MORE REASON to treat the Internet as a public utility Armstead Feb 2014 #37
I agree. The Internet needs to be a common carrier. Everyone is equal. RC Feb 2014 #46
Agreed. 100%. We also need more of our public utilities to actually be owned by Chathamization Feb 2014 #75
The hell with all of them. randome Feb 2014 #43
Download it on what? Two cups and a string? TheKentuckian Feb 2014 #52
Well, that answers a lot of questions. Le Taz Hot Feb 2014 #45
my first thought was d_r Feb 2014 #55
Bunch of thieves at Verizon alinux Feb 2014 #63
Welcome to DU gopiscrap Feb 2014 #79
I've defiantly noticed the slow down of the quality of my Netflix streaming. myrna minx Feb 2014 #65
My wife and I notice it last night. We tried to watch episode 3 of House of Cards and we kept diabeticman Feb 2014 #68
After all those years of Netflix pop overs & pop unders sellitman Feb 2014 #72
READ... aristocles Feb 2014 #76
I really can not stream at night... and I pay extra for the supposed "super-fast" connection hlthe2b Feb 2014 #82
I smell election issue. gulliver Feb 2014 #84
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