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YoungDemCA

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19. Ironically, while Goldwater seems more sensible these days, compared to the modern GOP....
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 12:49 AM
Mar 2012

...he was considered something of a nutball in the 50s and 60s. Many feared that he would start nuclear war. He was aggressively anti-union and hostile to federal regulation of business. His presidential campaign in 1964 pioneered the use of appeals to "law and order" and "moral values" that were often coded with racist undertones to speak to the anxieties of white middle-class Americans. He was the first Republican to win the deep South. He was the first Republican presidential candidate to be nominated as a distinctly modern and aggressively active or "movement" conservative. And his nomination and campaign marked the first experience where the "New Right" provided much of the intellectual and organizational backing of the Republican candidate.

If you look at the Republican candidates from Goldwater on, ever since they've had to answer to a much more right-wing Republican Party. Nixon and Ford, though rather centrist by comparison, pandered to the New Right. Reagan was their lionized hero, and Bush Sr and Dole pandered to an even more aggressively right-wing GOP. And then came George W Bush, who by the time he was nominated, was running in a Republican Party that was dominated by the Religious Right.

Post-Bush, the Republicans have gone off the deep end for good this time, it seems. A lot of them are looking to inspiration in Ronald Reagan's example, but not Reagan the real President-no, they are looking at Ronald Reagan, The Conservative Idealized Hero. They just aren't dealing with the real world anymore.

There have always been fantastical, conspiratorial elements to the GOP (see the John Birch Society). The difference today, is that the Republicans are now almost ALL Birchers or sympathetic to those views. Crazy is the new normal.

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Prophetic...knr joeybee12 Mar 2012 #1
Prophetic indeed... tex-wyo-dem Mar 2012 #13
Amazing prescience. n/t arthritisR_US Mar 2012 #2
Gawud does not compromise, you must bend to His Will. Ikonoklast Mar 2012 #3
Isn't it incredible to think eyewall Mar 2012 #4
Morality should not be legislated. dotymed Mar 2012 #45
Wonder what year he said that. Nt onlyadream Mar 2012 #5
I first heard it from Barry about the time of the 64 convention ... ... bayareaboy Mar 2012 #7
Link? aquart Mar 2012 #6
Here: WillyT Mar 2012 #8
The 'baggers would call him a socialist today. Odin2005 Mar 2012 #9
goldwater hit that nail on the head spanone Mar 2012 #10
extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! bart95 Mar 2012 #11
huh? provis99 Mar 2012 #15
What liberty would you ohheckyeah Mar 2012 #16
There seems to be some sort of law with 'baggers nxylas Mar 2012 #28
the quote was from goldwater, in 1964 at the GOP convention bart95 Mar 2012 #32
I clearly remember this ad that sank Goldwater dixiegrrrrl Mar 2012 #44
This message was self-deleted by its author LeftinOH Mar 2012 #30
It is a a troll dead give away to call us at DU "you people". Obviously you dont rhett o rick Mar 2012 #48
AU-H2O & Miller DemoTex Mar 2012 #12
Stephanie is William Miller's daughter Canuckistanian Mar 2012 #18
I have a faint memory of that campaign. harmonicon Mar 2012 #26
Wow!! Democrats should wear that quote out this Fall. bluestate10 Mar 2012 #14
Goldwater Is Not Alone Among Older Republicans. colsohlibgal Mar 2012 #17
Absolutely! maddiemom Mar 2012 #21
No, there never "had to be nothing." harmonicon Mar 2012 #27
Ironically, while Goldwater seems more sensible these days, compared to the modern GOP.... YoungDemCA Mar 2012 #19
Good overview - thanks ( n/t) klook Mar 2012 #37
K&R DeSwiss Mar 2012 #20
"your" not "you're" longship Mar 2012 #23
I prefer "yer" tclambert Mar 2012 #25
Not my wording. Contact: pabloONpolitics.com :-) n/t DeSwiss Mar 2012 #43
Goldwater famously said, during the 1964 campaign, that ... markpkessinger Mar 2012 #22
That liberal Goldwater! Today's Republicans have left him far behind . . . tclambert Mar 2012 #24
Extremism in the defense of Liberty, DESTROYS LIBERTY. amb123 Mar 2012 #29
Someone with the knowhow.. pangaia Mar 2012 #31
I always like this quote from him SteveG Mar 2012 #33
Great speech - who gave it. Smilo Mar 2012 #34
Let's not canonize Barry Goldwater as some sort of favorable alternative to modern Republicans. Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2012 #35
The Goldwater of his later years, hifiguy Mar 2012 #39
They sure did take control of the Republic party RedEarth Mar 2012 #36
Goldwater would be considered a moderate today and drummed out of the party WI_DEM Mar 2012 #38
Not to mention that they ignore Christian teachings! UrbScotty Mar 2012 #40
My best friend said the same thing to me in 1994 NICO9000 Mar 2012 #41
Great Post...thanks for putting this up...K and R...nt Stuart G Mar 2012 #42
WTF did that Goldwater know anyway? RoccoR5955 Mar 2012 #46
Goldwater had a lot of "true believers" who were supporters Jack Rabbit Mar 2012 #47
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