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97. As far as I know

Fri Feb 21, 2014, 11:13 PM

Feb 2014

the president never "touched" Social Security. He spoke about it in the scheme of bargaining but it never happened. I'm not sure how you can view it as something that happened and has now been reversed, taken back or whatever it is you think.

As far as off the table? I never said anything about "off the table". I said the president dropped the the SS reforms (from his budget). Which he did.

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Criticizing one of the President's policy positons does not make one a "POTUS hater" .... [View all] Scuba Feb 2014 OP

Not sure why it was necessary to mention this outside JoePhilly Feb 2014 #1

Because too many people don't understand this and it happens in almost every thread. cui bono Feb 2014 #2

Seems like most threads have someone accusing others of hating the President, or.. Dawgs Feb 2014 #3

Seems like some folks do hate the President. JoePhilly Feb 2014 #5

Seems like folks need to grow up and realize that democrats can hold a nuanced view Ed Suspicious Feb 2014 #74

You said it better than I. "I really don't get what's so hard about this concept." rhett o rick Feb 2014 #162

"Seems like"?? Really?? How do you judge that? The point of the OP is that the rhett o rick Feb 2014 #138

I have no idea what you're trying to say here. Dawgs Feb 2014 #140

Rhett was not replying to you. merrily Feb 2014 #149

I have never once seen anyone hoping he fails. There are policies of his, like TPP or KXL cui bono Feb 2014 #7

Unfortunately, many see criticism as hoping for failure. Dawgs Feb 2014 #13

Yes, they are taking it far too personally and react emotionally instead of rationally. n/t cui bono Feb 2014 #14

Ya man. fleabiscuit Feb 2014 #56

That is intentional, IMHO. This place is crawling with people who want to sabotage any loudsue Feb 2014 #84

+1000 kristopher Feb 2014 #104

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2014 #128

WHY IT WAS NECESSARY IS, imthevicar Feb 2014 #103

Nor does it warrant a right wing inspired term of ODS. cui bono Feb 2014 #4

of course not. But criticizing every single friggen thing Obama does Whisp Feb 2014 #6

No it's not hating. That just means you are taking it too personally. cui bono Feb 2014 #9

you misundertand. Whisp Feb 2014 #15

Then all you have to do is counter them in a discussion. No reason to say "hater" or "ODS". cui bono Feb 2014 #20

I prefer not to take the high road - I've been called a Stasi bot, authoritarian, Whisp Feb 2014 #23

Tiger Beat is still around? wow! nt msongs Feb 2014 #59

Your anger would be better used towards Obama. He's the one who doesn't act like a Democrat cui bono Feb 2014 #92

BOG open for 'real' discussion about the President? lol and haha. Isn't it real enough Whisp Feb 2014 #94

Who said I want entry? I'd rather live in reality. Not in a bubble full of idol worship cui bono Feb 2014 #95

Jerkish post. Bobbie Jo Feb 2014 #100

+1 truebluegreen Feb 2014 #135

Wisp, hey man.. chill. It's Saturday morning. pangaia Feb 2014 #146

Having a great cup of coffee and playing with my sweetheart doggie. Whisp Feb 2014 #151

I always feel the need to point this out when the Puglover Feb 2014 #129

them damned furiners. Whisp Feb 2014 #152

Yeah that's exactly the context of my post. Puglover Feb 2014 #153

This message was self-deleted by its author albino65 Feb 2014 #136

Exactly Bobbie Jo Feb 2014 #16

Here's what ProSense Feb 2014 #57

Exactly. This has been going on by the same bunch on this board for a long time. Pisces Feb 2014 #60

Perfect description Bobbie Jo Feb 2014 #68

So in other words if the President had not offered up cuts to Social Security - fleabiscuit Feb 2014 #82

The way the President tied those SS 'cuts' to cutting 'loved R tax breaks, loop holes was brilliant. Sunlei Feb 2014 #109

I suppose. fleabiscuit Feb 2014 #167

Thank you. kristopher Feb 2014 #106

+1 uponit7771 Feb 2014 #117

+Yep tridim Feb 2014 #27

True. great white snark Feb 2014 #77

AGREED.....they act SOOO Innocent don't they VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #101

+1000 kristopher Feb 2014 #105

+1 uponit7771 Feb 2014 #118

HATE ? That's a pretty strong term. Where does hate, whatever that is, come into it. pangaia Feb 2014 #142

I think his policy of not going to the Capitol and calling out the obstructionists one by one sucks. onehandle Feb 2014 #8

In his own words......It is your job to hold my feet to the fire Glitterati Feb 2014 #10

I don't think he meant to char them into stumps Whisp Feb 2014 #25

Based on that quote Glitterati Feb 2014 #29

the qualifier for me is just simple respect Whisp Feb 2014 #36

Yes, it is stinky bullshit!! Control-Z Feb 2014 #83

We should cheer him for taking back something that should never have been touched in the first place cui bono Feb 2014 #93

As far as I know Control-Z Feb 2014 #97

He put it on the table. Now it is normal to do that. It used to be unheard of. cui bono Feb 2014 #99

He spoke about it before his inauguration, not only in the context of merrily Feb 2014 #137

+1 uponit7771 Feb 2014 #119

In a democracy, it is the peoples' responsibility to hold public servants accountable. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2014 #11

Yep. Thanks for doing it. Autumn Feb 2014 #12

Doing nothing but, on the other hand, does...nt SidDithers Feb 2014 #17

And a quick site search shows this is the only thread ever to use the phrase "POTUS hater" muriel_volestrangler Feb 2014 #18

On DU, critics of the President's policies are often accused of hating him. smokey nj Feb 2014 #24

I responded to that thread JustAnotherGen Feb 2014 #32

Did you miss post #12 in that thread? smokey nj Feb 2014 #33

Same old same old JustAnotherGen Feb 2014 #35

The original poster is the author of that post. smokey nj Feb 2014 #37

Oh well JustAnotherGen Feb 2014 #40

There are plenty of posts calling other people Obama haters Autumn Feb 2014 #43

Here's just a few links. POTUS hater is only a term the OP used, the POTUS is Obama Autumn Feb 2014 #51

Those are all from 2013. The OP used quotes, which normally indicates a quote, muriel_volestrangler Feb 2014 #71

There are more recent ones. I saw a couple yesterday but don't Autumn Feb 2014 #72

I guess you post a lot without reading much then. cui bono Feb 2014 #96

For real. Myrina Feb 2014 #19

Calling him no better than Bush is hating him. wryter2000 Feb 2014 #21

well if this is what was said by OP presenter heaven05 Feb 2014 #28

We may not like what Bush did while in the White House, but how can you say he wasn't competent? A Simple Game Feb 2014 #178

no argument here heaven05 Feb 2014 #180

I wish the shoe had hit him too, but do you really think someone that A Simple Game Feb 2014 #181

rove et al stole two elections and that's called a coup heaven05 Feb 2014 #182

How childlike. OnyxCollie Feb 2014 #38

Do you hate Bush? wryter2000 Feb 2014 #45

Hate? I'm more mature than to "hate" someone I've never met. OnyxCollie Feb 2014 #47

wow, you are an adult noiretextatique Feb 2014 #55

Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding!!!!! DeSwiss Feb 2014 #58

Your admission of hate 2naSalit Feb 2014 #48

It's hard to define hate wryter2000 Feb 2014 #49

I'm sure the 7M people who can now see a doctor will agree. jeff47 Feb 2014 #46

of course not heaven05 Feb 2014 #22

+1000 JustAnotherGen Feb 2014 #42

Is there a link JustAnotherGen Feb 2014 #26

Of course it doesn't. But there are some people who seem to have made it their mission here, pnwmom Feb 2014 #30

Lately it seems if you're not in 150% agreement with a poster on practically ANY subject hobbit709 Feb 2014 #31

Exaggeration Bobbie Jo Feb 2014 #75

Well stated besides the President has plenty of people on the payroll to defend and spin his wocaonimabi Feb 2014 #34

Half-heartedly clapping is completely unacceptable. jsr Feb 2014 #39

lol NT ctsnowman Feb 2014 #44

+1 L0oniX Feb 2014 #147

The amazing thing ProSense Feb 2014 #41

lol. yes indeedy only YOUR posts deserve attention, pro. cali Feb 2014 #52

Oh shit cali ! I signed that petition. Autumn Feb 2014 #53

"Was I supposed to tell her or rec her OP?? " ProSense Feb 2014 #65

Why thanks Pro. That was a good petition. Autumn Feb 2014 #69

LOL! ProSense Feb 2014 #64

Amazing? DeSwiss Feb 2014 #61

Well I think there are some trolls here that know it is a golden ticket. Rex Feb 2014 #50

Exactly. Puglover Feb 2014 #124

Yes, they NEVER try and debate the person doing the critique. Rex Feb 2014 #164

And yet, it silvershadow Feb 2014 #54

One Poster wanted to Vomit mrchips Feb 2014 #62

The President's backing of the TPP makes me want to vomit. Is that over the line? Scuba Feb 2014 #66

Today, there is a headline about your sig line Kolesar Feb 2014 #78

My sig line? What primary will the President be facing? Scuba Feb 2014 #86

Obtuse eom Kolesar Mar 2014 #185

Actually, NO! mrchips Feb 2014 #102

This veteran disagrees, and did so in that thread. Scuba Feb 2014 #110

.... merrily Feb 2014 #154

what a simplistic, asinine statement Skittles Feb 2014 #91

BS mrchips Feb 2014 #120

Nothing But Insults mrchips Feb 2014 #131

LOL Skittles Feb 2014 #172

Brainless mrchips Feb 2014 #174

I'm debating whether or not this is worth my time Skittles Feb 2014 #177

Somehow I don't see sadoldgirl Feb 2014 #63

+1 Rex Feb 2014 #67

Don't feed the trolls! nt valerief Feb 2014 #70

Hate is what is going on in Uganda, Arizona, Russia. Bluenorthwest Feb 2014 #73

I don't really care if they think I am a hater. SMC22307 Feb 2014 #76

#1 fans? Kolesar Feb 2014 #79

It's *criticism* Bobbie Jo Feb 2014 #88

It's *flame bait* Kolesar Mar 2014 #184

GOTV 2014 great white snark Feb 2014 #80

yep, that point was made long ago to those with a por sense of things stupidicus Feb 2014 #81

Some may be confused because we hated all of boosh's policies and we hated him as POTUS. Tikki Feb 2014 #85

K and R bigwillq Feb 2014 #87

It does mean that to some especially devoted folk though. To them, hate = criticizing Obama's quinnox Feb 2014 #89

it does in the tiny minds of the Tiger Beat crowd Skittles Feb 2014 #90

While I'm quite grateful for many of the strides we have made during President Obama's terms, myrna minx Feb 2014 #98

Terrific post. Thank you myrna. Scuba Feb 2014 #111

Well said! Solly Mack Feb 2014 #121

The "for him or against him" line reeks of sock puppetry to me. blkmusclmachine Feb 2014 #107

And not criticizing doesn't make one a "third wayer" "DLCer" "right winger." joshcryer Feb 2014 #108

sadly enough though Bodhi BloodWave Feb 2014 #175

I just can't stand the echo chamber. joshcryer Feb 2014 #179

President Obama keeps saying Make Me do it wocaonimabi Feb 2014 #112

Yeah, the "make me do it" line really didn't flip my flapjacks. We stood in line to vote .... Scuba Feb 2014 #113

But But Prsident Hillary will make it all better! wocaonimabi Feb 2014 #115

"Make me NOT cut Social Security like I want to" jsr Feb 2014 #134

But constantly harping on him does davidpdx Feb 2014 #114

It's a playground taunt, Scuba... ReRe Feb 2014 #116

No but it is good to bear in mind that unsolicited denials Progressive dog Feb 2014 #122

Credibility Token Republican Feb 2014 #123

Thanks, good post. Your analysis of Dem criticisms towards Bush in '04 have merit. Scuba Feb 2014 #126

A little late on this topic but...... wolfie001 Feb 2014 #125

Careful, mention of these digressions may earn you a reputation of being "filled with hate". Scuba Feb 2014 #127

lol. I onetime threw a wrench into a ...... wolfie001 Feb 2014 #130

In China, N. Korea, Russia, Iran, they never criticize their elected leaders... pragmatic_dem Feb 2014 #132

yeah but swallowing stupid media memes about the president mopinko Feb 2014 #133

People feel betrayed... raindaddy Feb 2014 #139

Great post, thanks. Scuba Feb 2014 #143

OP has good point - approximately 3,710,000 Obama haters called out here... pragmatic_dem Feb 2014 #141

In fairness, many (most?) of the 3,710,000 posts with that search phrase aren't directed at DU .... Scuba Feb 2014 #145

Did you know that 1 post can show up several times doing a search like that? uppityperson Feb 2014 #169

I don't even understand why this sort of thing goes on in GD. Baitball Blogger Feb 2014 #144

I HATE OBAMA DAMN IT ALL TO HELL! There ...I feel better now. L0oniX Feb 2014 #148

There's a range between Ted Nugent-like comments... gulliver Feb 2014 #150

Indeed. Bobbie Jo Feb 2014 #156

Talking about either loving or hating someone we've never met merrily Feb 2014 #155

If I understand correctly, it makes one a racist. hughee99 Feb 2014 #157

Yeah, that's it. Bobbie Jo Feb 2014 #158

It's not MY analysis. n/t hughee99 Feb 2014 #159

I stand corrected Bobbie Jo Feb 2014 #161

It's not hard to find those that would argue it... hughee99 Feb 2014 #163

Whooooosh Bobbie Jo Feb 2014 #165

Agreed. hughee99 Feb 2014 #166

And when you peddle Bobbie Jo Feb 2014 #168

Obviously, because the president is black. n/t hughee99 Feb 2014 #171

Undoubtably. Bobbie Jo Feb 2014 #173

Remember when people wanted ProSense Feb 2014 #160

"I'm not sure why it's necessary to mention this, but apparently it is." alcibiades_mystery Feb 2014 #170

However, when all you do is criticize (not saying you - in general) the President, you are a hater. Drunken Irishman Feb 2014 #176

Agree, balance needed e.g. he looks good with shirt off, spying on us all is fucked-up for a dem pragmatic_dem Feb 2014 #183