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muriel_volestrangler

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182. The video in the OP link, and on Quintero's blog, starts after they've got her on the ground

Sat Feb 22, 2014, 05:50 AM

Feb 2014

Since you say you've seen them stopping her, you must have found a different one. Can you link to that, please?

You also think that she is 'on campus', and therefore should have ID; but it looks like a public street to everyone. It looks like a normal city street, with buildings occupied by businesses.

You say her composure was lost; not at the start of the video in the OP. They've got her on the ground, but she is still calm. She says, not screams, she's done nothing wrong; perhaps, if you consider jaywalking 'wrong' (it's an unknown term in the UK, and it surprises me that the USA has laws about it), you think she has; but she is probably thinking of "I've done nothing that justifies you forcing me to the ground". She loses her composure when they try to put her in the police car. It's pretty incredible that they needed to arrest and take away someone for crossing the road.

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Austin Police Drag Jogger To Car Screaming After Jaywalking Without ID [View all] Purveyor Feb 2014 OP

Bored, fat, vicious cops in action villager Feb 2014 #1

Too many fucking donuts. springchick Feb 2014 #3

They are probably wearing bullet proof vests which makes them look lumpier? Shrike47 Feb 2014 #81

Too much money and too much time on their hands. Dawson Leery Feb 2014 #109

When we pay our police too much Aerows Feb 2014 #119

I would not generalize too much about the Jenoch Feb 2014 #139

I would Aerows Feb 2014 #141

I'm not saying the graft and corruption in the Jenoch Feb 2014 #143

I can only respond about situations that I know Aerows Feb 2014 #144

I was referring to your point about Jenoch Feb 2014 #145

I'm sure they do too Aerows Feb 2014 #146

You are quite confused about the difference between Jenoch Feb 2014 #147

I'm not confused at all Aerows Feb 2014 #150

Wow...you are dragging in all kinds of things into this. Jenoch Feb 2014 #153

It's part of the same system, Jenoch Aerows Feb 2014 #154

Your links provided valuable information Jenoch Feb 2014 #155

You can be tired of it Aerows Feb 2014 #156

Those are interesting statistics ... JJChambers Feb 2014 #177

Just remember, the popo are there to serve and protect. springchick Feb 2014 #2

To serve [other cops] and protect [other cops]. (nt) TacoD Feb 2014 #29

And the 1%'ers. springchick Feb 2014 #30

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2014 #128

You've got to be kidding with this post! In_The_Wind Feb 2014 #131

Perhaps not, but gone now. MineralMan Feb 2014 #159

Gone before my juror results on this post came back. In_The_Wind Feb 2014 #160

I missed it springchick Feb 2014 #166

Nothing worth repeating. In_The_Wind Feb 2014 #167

You're right. springchick Feb 2014 #168

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2014 #187

Yet you can't spell "ignorant". uppityperson Feb 2014 #188

Damn, missed it again. springchick Feb 2014 #189

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2014 #190

Again? springchick Feb 2014 #191

WTF? damnedifIknow Feb 2014 #4

She should have kept running Politicalboi Feb 2014 #5

They might have gotten off a "lucky" shot. hlthe2b Feb 2014 #6

I could imagine the Headline... yuiyoshida Feb 2014 #46

She crossed the street in the wrong place Aerows Feb 2014 #51

As I said... yuiyoshida Feb 2014 #67

No way, she would have had a real possibility of being shot lostincalifornia Feb 2014 #60

Her headphones kept her from hearing them, so they grabbed her from behind. pnwmom Feb 2014 #104

And it's entirely reasonable Aerows Feb 2014 #107

I agree. And it's crazy that the tea baggers who pretend to care about freedom and liberty pnwmom Feb 2014 #114

She should have made them chase after her....nt Jesus Malverde Feb 2014 #7

Had she, she'd have gotten away. QuestForSense Feb 2014 #76

They would have just shot her Aerows Feb 2014 #120

Mmm, so we have to carry identification on us at all times? haele Feb 2014 #8

According to this wiki map, no. it depends on the state about IDing yourself, eta not carrying ID uppityperson Feb 2014 #9

So in Texas, you don't have to tell the cops jack Mariana Feb 2014 #16

That info is from 2013 it looks like but that's how I read it too. uppityperson Feb 2014 #18

+1 btrflykng9 Feb 2014 #33

Glad Kentucky doesn't have one get the red out Feb 2014 #37

Being outside in the presence of a police officer Aerows Feb 2014 #47

You are conflating being required to identify oneself with being required to carry ID. whopis01 Feb 2014 #55

Well these cops overstepped their bounds Aerows Feb 2014 #69

I do believe they overstepped their bounds whopis01 Feb 2014 #72

Campus police Aerows Feb 2014 #82

This message was self-deleted by its author Indpndnt Feb 2014 #103

It is likely that they have a cooperative agreement between the departments whopis01 Feb 2014 #115

Was she "on" campus or on a public street going through the campus. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2014 #85

She was on campus Aerows Feb 2014 #90

I know the article says on campus but that sure doesn't look like any campus. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2014 #96

I haven't been on a college campus for a while Aerows Feb 2014 #100

She was about one block off-campus. Indpndnt Feb 2014 #102

Thanks for the clarification Aerows Feb 2014 #108

Exactly. n/t Indpndnt Feb 2014 #111

That might be on Guadalupe St., but that's across the street from the campus MrScorpio Feb 2014 #136

Her headphones kept her from hearing their demand that she stop. pnwmom Feb 2014 #105

This is somewhat misleading. former9thward Feb 2014 #71

I edited about IDing, not carrying ID uppityperson Feb 2014 #73

cant they detain you if they""think"" you ' look ' like you may be committing a crime in AZ? lunasun Feb 2014 #178

Glad I'm not in a red state. nt valerief Feb 2014 #80

No state requires you to have ID on you at all times. But some require you to verbally.... Logical Feb 2014 #121

I think a pertinent part of your quote is "if lawfully arrested". raven mad Feb 2014 #186

Know My Rights: When Do I Have To Show ID? Purveyor Feb 2014 #10

You never require an ID card for walking down a street. NutmegYankee Feb 2014 #42

You'd think Aerows Feb 2014 #50

We'll, we do have our own authoritarianism loving crowd. NutmegYankee Feb 2014 #52

I think, in this case, it is because she was on campus whopis01 Feb 2014 #70

Actually, while they may have a cooperative agreement Aerows Feb 2014 #74

You can identify yourself and campus police have the ability to look up your ID. NutmegYankee Feb 2014 #98

They certainly have that ability whopis01 Feb 2014 #117

I wouldn't say 'surrounded by the campus' is 'on university premises' muriel_volestrangler Feb 2014 #142

What I meant by surrounded whopis01 Feb 2014 #170

Yes, I understand that, but that means 'on university premises' didn't apply there muriel_volestrangler Feb 2014 #181

If I remember the area from grad school days, 24th & San Antone is Eleanors38 Feb 2014 #169

Looking at the map whopis01 Feb 2014 #171

This message was self-deleted by its author Th1onein Feb 2014 #56

Since when do cops care about law? nt awoke_in_2003 Feb 2014 #162

Let see if I have this straight.... whistler162 Feb 2014 #11

She didn't have to produce ID, in the sense of documentation. Gidney N Cloyd Feb 2014 #19

You are not required to carry an ID at all times. jeff47 Feb 2014 #26

that's true Rosa Luxemburg Feb 2014 #124

That appears straightforward? Yeah, so do you pal tkmorris Feb 2014 #31

word up frylock Feb 2014 #62

It never fails to amaze me Aerows Feb 2014 #89

Ahh yes. ForgoTheConsequence Feb 2014 #32

You are not required to carry ID. NutmegYankee Feb 2014 #35

Nope. Does not need to show ID until after is arrested. uppityperson Feb 2014 #43

And it was for jaywalking Aerows Feb 2014 #54

I don't think the law in Texas requires it even then. Mariana Feb 2014 #59

thank you, making "straight forward" even more wrong. uppityperson Feb 2014 #65

Even then the law only requires you provide a verbal ID unless you're driving. herding cats Feb 2014 #77

She was jogging Aerows Feb 2014 #45

There isn't a law in Texas requiring a walker/jogger/runner to carry ID.n/t pnwmom Feb 2014 #63

This message was self-deleted by its author Th1onein Feb 2014 #83

I imagine "straightforward" is how many people rationalize the Kafkaesque... LanternWaste Feb 2014 #91

Authoritarian fail. blackspade Feb 2014 #122

LOL, not really informed on much are you? Also, next time try to know something before.... Logical Feb 2014 #123

She had on headphones and was grabbed from behind Aerows Feb 2014 #130

Cops are paid bullies who never get punished. n-t Logical Feb 2014 #135

Does extra body fat cause anger management problems? nt DURHAM D Feb 2014 #12

The police really need to stop treating the citizenry like we are all common criminals. The louslobbs Feb 2014 #13

Common criminals and potential prison inmates. KatyaR Feb 2014 #66

Oh yeah, I keep forgetting about that, our corporate prison system needs constant feeding in order louslobbs Feb 2014 #97

The person you jail for jogging and jaywalking without ID Aerows Feb 2014 #101

Sad but true. n/t louslobbs Feb 2014 #163

Cut the funding for these over aged hoodlums FreakinDJ Feb 2014 #14

I'm glad to see that Austin police have nothing better to do than attack jaywalkers. Sheldon Cooper Feb 2014 #15

Austin is a remarkably save place to live. HubertHeaver Feb 2014 #58

Until you get dragged down the street Aerows Feb 2014 #84

Disclosure: I am not a young, attractive female. I am an old, unattractive, white dude. HubertHeaver Feb 2014 #173

One wonders if the woman dragged also shares your sentiment... LanternWaste Feb 2014 #93

Not anymore HubertHeaver Feb 2014 #174

Well, if you're a small female wearing headphones while jogging, you should be afraid pnwmom Feb 2014 #106

What if she wasn't wearing headphones, either Aerows Feb 2014 #112

See below. HubertHeaver Feb 2014 #176

No need for the if/then qualifier. HubertHeaver Feb 2014 #175

It's up to Austin voters to get rid of these nasty cops seveneyes Feb 2014 #17

Austin cops can kill with impunity jsr Feb 2014 #20

By voting for who? JoeyT Feb 2014 #39

If the current mayor is in charge of these cops seveneyes Feb 2014 #53

You know it's out of hand when they harrass young white women. TransitJohn Feb 2014 #21

Still, I am surprised kcr Feb 2014 #22

Post 11 BuelahWitch Feb 2014 #24

Oops. Right on schedule after all. kcr Feb 2014 #28

Jaywalking is against the law AnalystInParadise Feb 2014 #44

Arrest quotas must be extremely low for February BuelahWitch Feb 2014 #23

. jsr Feb 2014 #25

They can't handle a jaywalker any better than that? rrneck Feb 2014 #27

exactly Locrian Feb 2014 #36

Arrested for exercising with no pockets?!? FloriTexan Feb 2014 #34

I reckon they expect people to wear an ID around their neck jsr Feb 2014 #41

That'll show those women that never paid attention to me before! chrisa Feb 2014 #38

Man, I was the crazy university student from hell in comparison to that. hunter Feb 2014 #40

Yes, you might be living in a corporate controlled fascist police state, already! grahamhgreen Feb 2014 #48

Suppose It don't Mean Much at All To Anyone Reading This, that Is, Until You are bkanderson76 Feb 2014 #49

Is Chris Quintero subject to arrest for taking the pictures? Jim__ Feb 2014 #57

Yay, Cops! Iggo Feb 2014 #61

fuck tha police frylock Feb 2014 #64

My daughter is a student at UT said they were cracking down for Jaywalking yesterday. Dustlawyer Feb 2014 #68

This message was self-deleted by its author Th1onein Feb 2014 #87

UT Police can Aerows Feb 2014 #95

Yep, those cops must be proud theHandpuppet Feb 2014 #75

I'm amazed they didn't shoot and kill her. After all, she refused to respect their authoritay! nt valerief Feb 2014 #78

I don't get it. Couldn't they tell she was white? (n/t) thesquanderer Feb 2014 #79

If anyone believes they can stand idle while others are oppressed because they themselves are Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2014 #86

It doesn't matter if you are red, yellow black or white Aerows Feb 2014 #92

This message was self-deleted by its author Th1onein Feb 2014 #88

She's wearing Five Fingers running shoes Aerows Feb 2014 #94

They must have thought she was a ninja? blackspade Feb 2014 #164

Well done, men! Something to tell the grandkids about. Flatulo Feb 2014 #99

Predators with a badge. blackspade Feb 2014 #110

I'm always quick to criticize police actions.... but smiley Feb 2014 #113

Yep, those jaywalkers should be punished to the full extent of the law!! damnedifIknow Feb 2014 #116

I believe the article said she was being charged with failure to show ID smiley Feb 2014 #118

Do you realize you do not have to have ID on you when jogging??? Or is this..... Logical Feb 2014 #125

What if the campus requires you to carry an ID? smiley Feb 2014 #149

So only students can jog on the public streets on campus? n-t Logical Feb 2014 #157

Did you have on headphones because you were jogging Aerows Feb 2014 #132

I'm only basing my opinion on what I saw in the video smiley Feb 2014 #151

Reading your posts, it seems you feel like it just isn't possible the cops acted badly kcr Feb 2014 #180

The video in the OP link, and on Quintero's blog, starts after they've got her on the ground muriel_volestrangler Feb 2014 #182

Your take on this is unpopular Aerows Feb 2014 #127

I didn't see any grabbing from behind or dragging smiley Feb 2014 #148

"She did not stop" Aerows Feb 2014 #152

Fuck them BeyondGeography Feb 2014 #126

Low IQ equals high authoritarian bent I think. Ed Suspicious Feb 2014 #129

Just the desire to inflict cruelty Aerows Feb 2014 #134

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2014 #140

Lucky she didn't run. Might have gotten shot in the back. bravenak Feb 2014 #133

pigs frwrfpos Feb 2014 #137

She's lucky she's white Orrex Feb 2014 #138

Whatever happened to community policing? PumpkinAle Feb 2014 #158

White on white crime. SMH. bigwillq Feb 2014 #161

Bad Cops, no donut! pokerfan Feb 2014 #165

If your police department drags away a woman for not having ID, you might live in a police state. Kennah Feb 2014 #172

How dare she! Glad to see she was removed off the streets for everyone's safety lunasun Feb 2014 #179

response from the police chief Garion_55 Feb 2014 #183

I just love the pseudo military uniform... blackspade Feb 2014 #184

The chief of police is backing his officers Progressive dog Feb 2014 #185