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40. Are you talking about PDVSA?

Reply to madokie (Reply #33)

Sat Feb 22, 2014, 12:19 PM

Feb 2014

You do know that Venezuela's oil has been nationalized for years, long before Chavez?

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Do you support the overthrow of Maduro in Venezuela? [View all] Ken Burch Feb 2014 OP

No I support dialog with both sides in Ven. hrmjustin Feb 2014 #1

The opposition in Venezuela hasn't ever sought dialog-they never accepted the PSUV or Chavez Ken Burch Feb 2014 #4

I am sure that both sides have grievances but dialog needs to go forth. hrmjustin Feb 2014 #5

The students are a new entity. joshcryer Feb 2014 #8

If, and it's a big if, the students get Maduro to step down it would be Diosdado Cabello. joshcryer Feb 2014 #2

And Diosdado Cabello would just sell out to the foreign corporations on everything. Ken Burch Feb 2014 #3

yep $$$ foreigners want "" their"" oil back lunasun Feb 2014 #6

He is a communist, but anti-Cuba. joshcryer Feb 2014 #7

Why is it important to be anti-Cuba at this point? Ken Burch Feb 2014 #10

He thinks Cuba has too much influence. joshcryer Feb 2014 #11

Look, it's horrible that the student was raped... Ken Burch Feb 2014 #14

Erm, the government isn't responsible, but by being dismissive it made it worse. joshcryer Feb 2014 #15

Thanks for the information. That dean is a total asshole and should resign. n/t. Ken Burch Feb 2014 #17

As opposed to selling out to the Chinese? Sen. Walter Sobchak Feb 2014 #26

The Chinese don't care if you gun down or imprison political opposition in your country. Ikonoklast Feb 2014 #30

It's none of our business if they want to ally with China. China's just another country now. Ken Burch Feb 2014 #61

Is the China National Offshore Oil Corporation not an "outside corporation" Sen. Walter Sobchak Feb 2014 #70

Well, Diosdado Cabello was with Hugo Chavez when they were both in the Army. MADem Feb 2014 #31

If the U.S. press wants him, he can't be on the side of the people. Ken Burch Feb 2014 #62

What are you talking about...the US press? MADem Feb 2014 #64

I've seen Univision...it's political take is basically that of the Miami Cubans Ken Burch Feb 2014 #66

Flip over to Telemundo then. MADem Feb 2014 #69

I support Venezuelans. cherokeeprogressive Feb 2014 #9

Grudgingly, yes. Chan790 Feb 2014 #12

No, I support and respect Venezuelan democracy. Coyotl Feb 2014 #13

What happens when the Venezuelan people petition for change, though? MADem Feb 2014 #37

They just finished two rounds of elections, with Maduro's party winning a 10% victory in the second. Coyotl Feb 2014 #38

I believe this guy before I buy what you're selling, sorry. MADem Feb 2014 #41

And, elections are how democracies elect Presidents. That's how democracy works. Coyotl Feb 2014 #45

And...Richard Nixon resigned. So what's your point, really? MADem Feb 2014 #49

The Nixon resignation didn't make anything worse. Ken Burch Feb 2014 #56

Because you say so? Listen to you! MADem Feb 2014 #60

They don't need to trust election results because they have a clip from youtube. SolutionisSolidarity Feb 2014 #50

They don't need to undo election results with a devolution to anarchy in the streets. Coyotl Feb 2014 #52

If Maduro resigns, bolivarism is over. And bolivarism is all the poor there ever had. Ken Burch Feb 2014 #57

You don't think much of the people of Venezuela, apparently. MADem Feb 2014 #58

There's nothing all that special about Cabello. Ken Burch Feb 2014 #59

Nothing special about Cabello? MADem Feb 2014 #67

I defend the people of Venezuela...but this isn't really about them. Ken Burch Feb 2014 #65

Maduro already sold a piece of VZ's future to China. MADem Feb 2014 #71

Surprising result. I guess the usual crew is in bed... SolutionisSolidarity Feb 2014 #16

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Violent overthrow - no Calista241 Feb 2014 #18

No to violent overthrow. No to violent repression. pampango Feb 2014 #19

No davidpdx Feb 2014 #20

God, you people are vile. unreadierLizard Feb 2014 #21

It's a shitty "push" poll, you see. MADem Feb 2014 #35

I guess it must feel shitty to see how isolated you neoliberals are. SolutionisSolidarity Feb 2014 #53

That was a pretty uninformed comment. MADem Feb 2014 #54

The poll included every possible option. Ken Burch Feb 2014 #72

No it didn't. If Maduro resigned, as Nixon did, that would not be regarded as an MADem Feb 2014 #73

Corporatists Chris Diesel Feb 2014 #78

Yeah, it's all the corporatists fault that Chavistas economic plans are crap. Sure. NT Adrahil Feb 2014 #84

While I think "vile" is unnecessarily hyperbolic leftynyc Feb 2014 #43

I think Capriles (or Donald Duck) would probably do a less awful job, but elections should matter. Donald Ian Rankin Feb 2014 #22

Maduro may have been elected DFW Feb 2014 #47

That's a very different question. Donald Ian Rankin Feb 2014 #51

The western hemisphere doesn't need it's very own Robert Mugabe Sen. Walter Sobchak Feb 2014 #23

Ouch. There is truth in that statement Ikonoklast Feb 2014 #32

Obsessed with Mugabe, are we? Lydia Leftcoast Feb 2014 #83

A lunatic running a country into the ground in the name of indigenous revolution? Sen. Walter Sobchak Feb 2014 #85

UH...Maduro isn't committing atrocities? or intentionally starving people? Ken Burch Feb 2014 #86

I am more concerned with trying to overthrow the fools that run our country (nt) bigwillq Feb 2014 #24

Something needs to be done. Possible replacement? JaneyVee Feb 2014 #25

I just want a peaceful solution. nt hack89 Feb 2014 #27

Probably too late for that DFW Feb 2014 #48

I'll admit that I have no idea whatsoever is going on there NightWatcher Feb 2014 #28

Let's watch and let situation unfold brush Feb 2014 #29

What so the oil companies can fuck the Venezuela people like they used to madokie Feb 2014 #33

Are you talking about PDVSA? COLGATE4 Feb 2014 #40

No one, save the Chinese (buying at fire sale prices), wants VZ oil. MADem Feb 2014 #44

lets hear it for Fracking! reddread Feb 2014 #63

I prefer wind and solar, myself. nt MADem Feb 2014 #74

So do I, but a "free market" gov't in VZ wouldn't develop them. Ken Burch Feb 2014 #81

VZ will NEVER develop them no matter if a communist or a queen runs the joint. MADem Feb 2014 #82

Yes. It is the natural order of things that our RW 1% Plutarch Overlords should own Zorra Feb 2014 #36

Do you support the overthrow of Obama in the USA? Coyotl Feb 2014 #39

This x1000 Starry Messenger Feb 2014 #42

history repeats, hypocrites replete n/t reddread Feb 2014 #46

ditto dipsydoodle Feb 2014 #80

I'm anti-overthrow, but there's been a lot of what sounds like pro-coup propaganda here lately. Ken Burch Feb 2014 #55

+1,000,000 PoliticalPothead Feb 2014 #77

No. I didn't support the overthrow of Hugo Chavez, either, but that kinda goes truth2power Feb 2014 #68

Don't really care one way or the other. CFLDem Feb 2014 #75

venezuela needs sabbat hunter Feb 2014 #76

A qualified no Warpy Feb 2014 #79