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In reply to the discussion: Oh Crap!!! "Social Security Cuts Still ‘on the Table’ but Not in Obama’s Budget"!!! [View all]Cleita
(75,480 posts)6. They can increase taxes without penalizing the poor especially seniors
who won't have an opportunity to work in the future to add to their retirement.
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Oh Crap!!! "Social Security Cuts Still ‘on the Table’ but Not in Obama’s Budget"!!! [View all]
grahamhgreen
Feb 2014
OP
Of course it matters. LIES matter. SS has NOTHING to do with the deficit. That is a lie
sabrina 1
Feb 2014
#105
All the more proof that this admin is really just a shell for the real people in control ...
MindMover
Feb 2014
#127
So, we know it needs to be done, but are unwilling to do anything to get them to do it.
Hoyt
Feb 2014
#29
I wish you weren't right but you are. I'm suffering right now because of the way
Cleita
Feb 2014
#31
I'm no saying this cause I want it to be true, but things are really screwed up and they will get
Hoyt
Feb 2014
#34
You act like the ONLY way to increase taxes on the wealthy is to cut SS, not true!!!! :-)
grahamhgreen
Feb 2014
#138
Trying to make them do the right thing by offering up SS cuts IS doing the wrong thing.
SammyWinstonJack
Feb 2014
#54
Nice theory but what happens when the media is controlled by the conservatives themselves, the story
grahamhgreen
Feb 2014
#140
Politics 101. You withhold something like military funding from them until they cave.
grahamhgreen
Feb 2014
#137
Do you turn complicated things over to folks who quote Medicine 101, Investments 101, Politics 101?
Hoyt
Feb 2014
#143
Only if what he's doing is actually trying to cut SS. Otherwise he's failing politics 101. You must
grahamhgreen
Feb 2014
#144
Well, FIRST you DON'T hand them everything they want and brag about bipartisanship.
FiveGoodMen
Feb 2014
#152
This is not what it takes. It's the opposite of what it takes. Conflating Social security with taxes
grahamhgreen
Feb 2014
#17
You need to quit reading by pointing at each word. Try reading in chunks. Things will make sense.
Hoyt
Feb 2014
#84
Well 117 House Democrats and 15 Senate Democrats disagree with you and Obama
neverforget
Feb 2014
#103
What's with this buying of Republican talking points regarding Social Security?
neverforget
Feb 2014
#104
Please stop the bullshit. The poorest are not protected at all--some of the cuts (but not all)
eridani
Feb 2014
#24
Actually, removing cap doesn't solve entire problem. And SS may well be 100% of my retirement.
Hoyt
Feb 2014
#33
Raising the cap just on workers making over $250,000 makes it solvent 'forever', do you need a link
grahamhgreen
Feb 2014
#124
Would like to see a link. Bernie Sanders offered a Bill to do just that, it got nowhere.
Hoyt
Feb 2014
#129
Chained CPI got nowhere - get the president behind the Sanders bill and we can get it passed:)
grahamhgreen
Feb 2014
#148
Excuse you, no way. That's right, way system works today, current worker's FICA taxes are paying
Hoyt
Feb 2014
#82
The article relies on bullshit assumptions, projecting the shortfall to FOREVER
eridani
Feb 2014
#109
I take it you are admitting you were wrong about boomers prepaying their retirement? n/t
eridani
Feb 2014
#112
No, I'm right that they didn't pay enough, and I take no satisfaction in being right.
Hoyt
Feb 2014
#113
Do you even have an idea of what is paid out of the fund each year? That trillion
Hoyt
Feb 2014
#120
If you go back to "pay as you go, " you gotta have enough people with good jobs paying in, and
Hoyt
Feb 2014
#122
That would also require exiting the costly trade agreements that siphon off high paying jobs.
grahamhgreen
Feb 2014
#149
I get it, but Congress doesn't. Heck, even Catford Commission supported big cuts military.
Hoyt
Feb 2014
#21
Why not bargain with military cuts? Either raise taxes or I'm cutting the military....
grahamhgreen
Feb 2014
#125
Guess you missed the fact we are already starving children with cuts to food stamps while we do what
Hoyt
Feb 2014
#128
That's completely without basis. We just stood our ground and got chained-CPI off the table, lol!!!
grahamhgreen
Feb 2014
#130
"I'll give up a little of my SS to get taxes increased, if that is what it takes."
putitinD
Feb 2014
#27
And Obama's proposal would not affect you. In fact, Catford Commission would have given you an
Hoyt
Feb 2014
#53
We're only asking that he unequivocally take SS cuts off the table, now and forever.
grahamhgreen
Feb 2014
#145
Your exercise in futility is misspent ... because the government has little or nothing to do ...
MindMover
Feb 2014
#131
I know I will get slammed for this BUT this makes me sick. I never thought I'd EVER see a Democrat
diabeticman
Feb 2014
#52
I'm right there with you. "Democrat" = "100% S.S. Supporter." The New Deal is our raison d'etre.
WinkyDink
Feb 2014
#66
"I will need every penny I get from SS, but I'd put a little a risk in hopes we improve situation
djean111
Feb 2014
#58
Fine, we'll sit stagnant for a decade or two, and all those things - including SS - will get worse.
Hoyt
Feb 2014
#94
No reason to "sit stagnant". Unless you feel the onliest bestest thing to do is just
djean111
Feb 2014
#97
OMG!!! "Principle of fairness"?!?! To take a PITTANCE from a billionaire and a LIFE-ALTERING
WinkyDink
Feb 2014
#61
and that's the crux of affluenza: the rich will complain even more about a 40% loss
MisterP
Feb 2014
#114
Indeed. And I have a real ancient one. I taught BritLit, and for the Medieval
WinkyDink
Feb 2014
#154
I'm afraid it's all a package, guys. You can't have the forever wars, the "free trade", the bankster
Romulox
Feb 2014
#67
It is really fascinating to read the Third Way talking points concerning Social Security cuts.
djean111
Feb 2014
#90
Agreed. I can only think the majority of the pro-chained CPI crowd are paid trolls!
grahamhgreen
Feb 2014
#115
I am starting to think of Third Way politicians and the people who support them as non-Democrats.
djean111
Feb 2014
#119
I've heard the term "Republican Democrats" as well. I saw an article recently about the Koch's
grahamhgreen
Feb 2014
#126