The American Civil War never ended. (Reply #39)

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Sat Feb 22, 2014, 10:31 PM

39. The American Civil War never ended.

The leaders of the Confederacy surrendered and victory was declared, but the schism still exists.

And the schism isn't regional or spiritual, it authoritarian vs. egalitarian, coercion vs. cooperation.

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165 replies	Author	Time	Post
The next civil war is coming. It is almost inevitable. [View all]	AAO	Feb 2014	OP
There will be civil unrest due to food and water shortages as climate change takes hold	Auggie	Feb 2014	#1
Just judging from what's going on in CA with water, we're heading there, probably. n/t	RKP5637	Feb 2014	#2
A perfect storm is brewing	Auggie	Feb 2014	#10
Inevitable class war	davekriss	Feb 2014	#15
Yep	Auggie	Feb 2014	#19
Agreed. Much more likely than "lib vs con," IMO.	Lizzie Poppet	Feb 2014	#74
It will be the rich and middle class vs. the poor if anything.	former9thward	Feb 2014	#90
Yes … Something like that	Auggie	Feb 2014	#110
Climate change worsened by Republicons going AWOL from reality & responsibility	Berlum	Feb 2014	#97
this ^^^	magical thyme	Feb 2014	#126
Probably not. I think we'd see a Constitutional Convention before that	Lurks Often	Feb 2014	#3
Republicans are pushing for that in many states already	CatholicEdHead	Feb 2014	#31
they want the Handmaid's Tale	stg81	Feb 2014	#33
Or worse.	Enthusiast	Feb 2014	#94
If only they knew what the Handmaid's Tale was.	pangaia	Feb 2014	#105
Which is why I'm 150% against the idea.	Initech	Feb 2014	#102
And, the end of the US. We would just be a third world knuckle dragging place as the	RKP5637	Feb 2014	#128
Republicans have already killed 200,000+	seattledo	Feb 2014	#111
Would it actually pass anything, or end in complete disarray	quaker bill	Feb 2014	#125
I don't think we've reached that point yet	Lurks Often	Feb 2014	#127
A Constitutional Convention any time now would be a disaster	CanonRay	Feb 2014	#130
if ever the should be a flashpoint for a new civil war, a constitutional convention would be it.	unblock	Feb 2014	#152
Disagree, since it is laid out in law, it might the only peaceful	Lurks Often	Feb 2014	#156
i'm not expecting "results" from a constitutional convention other than more acrimony	unblock	Feb 2014	#157
Acrimony is the current state of politics these days. n/t	Lurks Often	Feb 2014	#158
indeed. that's why i think a constitutional convention won't help.	unblock	Feb 2014	#159
As much as the Kroch Bros. want to overthrow our	Wellstone ruled	Feb 2014	#4
Unrec. Ridiculous hyperbole.	FSogol	Feb 2014	#5
No it isn't.	Throd	Feb 2014	#6
That's mind-bogglingly silly.	Codeine	Feb 2014	#7
Dumb premise	Pretzel_Warrior	Feb 2014	#8
+100000000	aristocles	Feb 2014	#54
+100,000,000	Auntie Bush	Feb 2014	#66
Civil War II: Electric Boogaloo	Initech	Feb 2014	#101
LOL!!!	bravenak	Feb 2014	#144
All the militias and gun nuts combined and coordinatedwould not last a week...	gordianot	Feb 2014	#9
If there were serious food or water shortages the federal government would not stand a chance.	former9thward	Feb 2014	#91
What I described would be an insurrection not a civil war over ideology.	gordianot	Feb 2014	#115
BRING. IT. ON. (mutherf/ckers)	blkmusclmachine	Feb 2014	#11
I've never seen the split between Americans this bad except for the Vietnam War era. IMO, before	AlinPA	Feb 2014	#12
why would they secede?	grasswire	Feb 2014	#26
Good point, but it's a "What's The Matter With Kansas" type thing and religious fanaticism.	AlinPA	Feb 2014	#27
they are too stupid to comprehend this reality	stg81	Feb 2014	#35
Not happening.	JoePhilly	Feb 2014	#13
Only in a Second Amendment absolutist's	billh58	Feb 2014	#14
Nope.	zappaman	Feb 2014	#16
Don't burst the bubble...	greytdemocrat	Feb 2014	#18
Are you in Colorado by chance?	XRubicon	Feb 2014	#17
No, but don't think I'm not seriously contemplating it.	AAO	Feb 2014	#20
Thank you all for responding!	AAO	Feb 2014	#21
I see this coming too.	deaniac21	Feb 2014	#22
I don't know about "civil war"...but we are less politically stable than many think...	First Speaker	Feb 2014	#23
As I told my son today	AAO	Feb 2014	#28
Of the current "militias" in this country, 95% won't leave their mom's basement, and the rest are	chrisa	Feb 2014	#24
I'm just a pro-2A lefty, but this is a amusing, in a hyperventilating way.	Eleanors38	Feb 2014	#25
We are teetering on republican or democratic control.	airplaneman	Feb 2014	#29
Now THAT's what I'm talkin about!	AAO	Feb 2014	#34
there are a lot of very evil people in this country, and it would be foolish to ignore that	stg81	Feb 2014	#36
That is it, right there. Millions will die as intended by the RWNJs. n/t	freshwest	Feb 2014	#45
The veneer of society is very thin.	L0oniX	Feb 2014	#63
Conservative v Liberal = City v Rural	bvar22	Feb 2014	#30
Well put, imo, but I'd amend slightly thus:	Ghost Dog	Feb 2014	#55
from what i've seen from the police these last 5 to ten years here	RedstDem	Feb 2014	#56
Yep, so I see.	Ghost Dog	Feb 2014	#57
It's called a thin blue line for reason...	Eleanors38	Feb 2014	#62
Your posts 25. and 62. seem to contradict one another. (nt)	Paladin	Feb 2014	#71
In what way?	Eleanors38	Feb 2014	#76
People in the sticks can grow their own food and have access to water	Aerows	Feb 2014	#98
That is one of the reasons ...	bvar22	Feb 2014	#100
If you can have a garden	Aerows	Feb 2014	#103
people can't even bother to get up to vote, you think they will go into war?	La Lioness Priyanka	Feb 2014	#32
For a civil war, you need a split in the military, either by region or by branch	FarCenter	Feb 2014	#37
I think a civil war doen't necessarily have to involve the military	AAO	Feb 2014	#38
Vigilantes may be able to restore order fairly quickly	FarCenter	Feb 2014	#47
problems with calling a disciplined force or "Never start a fire that you cannot put out."	RegexReader	Feb 2014	#82
The record of civil disturbances in the US doesn't include grandmothers rebelling	FarCenter	Feb 2014	#88
The American Civil War never ended.	Egalitarian Thug	Feb 2014	#39
That is a big part of it as is religious fundamentalism.	AAO	Feb 2014	#40
Sane person here, with six guns	Loaded Liberal Dem	Feb 2014	#41
Great - we're going to need people with heavy firepower.	AAO	Feb 2014	#43
So I need to go out, buy a bunch of assault rifles and arm myself?	Packerowner740	Feb 2014	#83
I don't have any intention of buying a weapon.	AAO	Feb 2014	#85
What will we 'need heavy fire power' for	B2G	Feb 2014	#151
You really want to use nukes? Now that's ridiculous.	AAO	Feb 2014	#160
If there ever was another civil war, it'd be between the haves and have-nots.	Vashta Nerada	Feb 2014	#42
Well, yeah, but that would be a very short one.	AAO	Feb 2014	#44
It will be between the greedy and the needy.	Auntie Bush	Feb 2014	#68
We should get one of those wheels from the fair	madville	Feb 2014	#46
I think that's very, very unlikely indeed.	sibelian	Feb 2014	#48
"almost inevitable"= not inevitable.	onenote	Feb 2014	#49
The sooner the better!	markmyword	Feb 2014	#50
100% Correct	wocaonimabi	Feb 2014	#58
divisionist crap	marions ghost	Feb 2014	#133
This message was self-deleted by its author	wocaonimabi	Feb 2014	#135
Divisionist crap	marions ghost	Feb 2014	#134
We stand together or we die by the millions.	aquart	Feb 2014	#51
If only I were that powerful.	AAO	Feb 2014	#59
We will not only die by the millions but we will	Auntie Bush	Feb 2014	#70
It all depends on your definition of civil war.	defacto7	Feb 2014	#52
I think you are more likely see it on Netflix.	MMcGuire	Feb 2014	#53
We did. Atlas Shrugged II	L0oniX	Feb 2014	#64
See there you go!	MMcGuire	Feb 2014	#87
No. The demographics, if nothing else, disallow a Civil war to happen in the U.S. nt	ladjf	Feb 2014	#60
So long as it doesn't delay the 3rd season of Continuum, that's fine with me.	randome	Feb 2014	#61
Please include The Voice...	L0oniX	Feb 2014	#65
There are some fascists on this site who death would be preferable	Jetboy	Feb 2014	#67
Your statement contains no irony	Pretzel_Warrior	Feb 2014	#77
I would seriously doubt it. Our divisions are mostly about advertising and	Marr	Feb 2014	#69
We have two such "culturally-defining, human rights issue like slavery" issues	demwing	Feb 2014	#73
I'm more inclined to see a (largely peaceful) breakup of the union.	Lizzie Poppet	Feb 2014	#72
Your vision is what is needed.	former9thward	Feb 2014	#96
I say bring it on....	ChisolmTrailDem	Feb 2014	#75
Reading DU...	NobodyHere	Feb 2014	#78
How I hear you on that!	AAO	Feb 2014	#79
Yeah	CFLDem	Feb 2014	#80
Lol	CFLDem	Feb 2014	#81
My money is on	arely staircase	Feb 2014	#84
Class war, not civil war	Corruption Inc	Feb 2014	#86
The problem is nukes are not smart bombs.	former9thward	Feb 2014	#89
Police and military would crush those gunshow hillbillies no problem	mwrguy	Feb 2014	#92
You do realize....	BuzzKillington	Feb 2014	#121
"we currently control the nukes."	Enthusiast	Feb 2014	#93
Better than being controlled by the 'baggers	AAO	Feb 2014	#112
That's why we need a strong liberal leftist government. Because RW lunatics	Zorra	Feb 2014	#95
You had better hope not	Frytruk33	Feb 2014	#99
I served	XRubicon	Feb 2014	#108
You're right is does	Frytruk33	Feb 2014	#109
In what capacity	BuzzKillington	Feb 2014	#122
Im going to assume you wont be around long enough to warrant	XRubicon	Feb 2014	#136
Why?	BuzzKillington	Feb 2014	#139
my call for war?	XRubicon	Feb 2014	#140
Actually.....	BuzzKillington	Feb 2014	#141
Who is crying out for war?	AAO	Feb 2014	#113
Half the fools replying to this thread	Frytruk33	Feb 2014	#114
Well, you responded to me - I never called for war. I'm just a soothsayer.	AAO	Feb 2014	#131
Link?	RandiFan1290	Feb 2014	#124
I've got my pitchfork ready!	democratisphere	Feb 2014	#104
yep and the Morans will lose	Pharaoh	Feb 2014	#106
This seems silly to me considering	sadoldgirl	Feb 2014	#107
Exactly, the Government would not even have to exert much force and it would be very quiet.	gordianot	Feb 2014	#116
If there will be a civil war it won't be ideological...	Springslips	Feb 2014	#117
I tend to think of climate change and resources as economic. You do make a good point.	gordianot	Feb 2014	#118
Yes.	Springslips	Feb 2014	#119
The strife will be personal one against the other, this just invites government to step in.	gordianot	Feb 2014	#120
Pfft! Let the rednecks try it - & the Union Army will go all William Tecumseh Sherman on their asses	Adenoid_Hynkel	Feb 2014	#123
lol. you can find the same divisive shit on freeperville. almost	cali	Feb 2014	#129
Divisive? How is my OP divisive? Maybe to teabaggers, but they shouldn't be here.	AAO	Feb 2014	#132
Glad you brought this up..	adavid	Feb 2014	#137
Glad you brought this up..	adavid	Feb 2014	#137
Message auto-removed	Name removed	Feb 2014	#142
Not going to happen.	dilby	Feb 2014	#143
Not flame bait if it is possible. I think it is, you don't. Stalemate.	AAO	Feb 2014	#145
Agree there will not be a civil war, but if a Democrat is elected as President in 2016, the	AlinPA	Feb 2014	#148
.	MO_Moderate	Feb 2014	#146
I wish I could be so naive.	AAO	Feb 2014	#162
Conspiracy theories do not prove you to be right	MO_Moderate	Feb 2014	#164
I didn't get anything from a "hyper partisan website".	AAO	Feb 2014	#165
secret fantasies based on hack-authored, badly-written sci-fi novellas	LanternWaste	Feb 2014	#147
more like, second "great depression" and progressive revival....	steve2470	Feb 2014	#149
Message auto-removed	Name removed	Feb 2014	#150
We should surrender and let them secede and elect a Duck Dynasty.	Tierra_y_Libertad	Feb 2014	#153
No, I don't think so.	HappyMe	Feb 2014	#154
Post removed	Post removed	Feb 2014	#155
Another good reason we should remain progressive on the 2A.	ileus	Feb 2014	#161
Yes, please stay together	AAO	Feb 2014	#163

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