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El_Johns

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64. same to you.

Sun Feb 23, 2014, 12:36 AM

Feb 2014

Social Darwinism is a belief, popular in the late Victorian era in England, America, and elsewhere, which states that the strongest or fittest should survive and flourish in society, while the weak and unfit should be allowed to die. The theory was chiefly expounded by Herbert Spencer, whose ethical philosophies always held an elitist view and received a boost from the application of Darwinian ideas such as adaptation and natural selection.

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D.C. Insider: There's a Shadow Govt. Running the Country, and It's Not Up for Re-Election [View all] xchrom Feb 2014 OP

As in the Politburo malaise Feb 2014 #1

indeed nt xchrom Feb 2014 #2

This is exactly what I thought.... ReRe Feb 2014 #3

+1 xchrom Feb 2014 #4

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Come again? ReRe Feb 2014 #6

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This is the stupidest "argument," to wit: IF there is no difference, then VOTE FOR THE DEMOCRAT. WinkyDink Feb 2014 #13

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"...what exactly is the democrat going to do for me, I wonder?" ReRe Feb 2014 #17

No, I'm not a Democrat - so fire me erronis Feb 2014 #42

If you think Libertarian is being liberal, you are just a republican who WhiteTara Feb 2014 #54

You become what you hate. nt bemildred Feb 2014 #7

They put on a good show for us every four years. nt woo me with science Feb 2014 #8

The Greatest Show on Earth jsr Feb 2014 #16

The Greatest Show on Earth.... AND a Big Business worth BILLIONS. bvar22 Feb 2014 #31

That is great information. Thank you. And truedelphi Feb 2014 #37

I don't think you could do that..... and sleep at night. bvar22 Feb 2014 #39

Reminds me of the first Presidential debate of 2012. DhhD Feb 2014 #43

That gave me pause. Enthusiast Feb 2014 #75

We are moving closer to a pipoman Feb 2014 #9

I hope you're right. merrily Feb 2014 #14

That is funny, especially Progressive dog Feb 2014 #10

I don't think that word means what you think it means. blackspade Feb 2014 #23

I'm sure they had different socila beliefs, so what, Progressive dog Feb 2014 #26

My point is that your use of social Darwinism.... blackspade Feb 2014 #28

You are trying to argue with someone that has to include "progressive" in his name to rhett o rick Feb 2014 #34

! blackspade Feb 2014 #44

How about the screen name of: "AReallyReallyLiberalProgressiveDemocatHonest." nm rhett o rick Feb 2014 #50

LOL! blackspade Feb 2014 #66

I prefer Demodogs. cui bono Feb 2014 #82

Sometimes people forget to look at their name tag jsr Feb 2014 #61

You are even funnier than the social Darwinist. Progressive dog Feb 2014 #92

What could be funnier than you claiming to be progressive? nm rhett o rick Feb 2014 #96

Me caring what you think a progressive is nm Progressive dog Feb 2014 #98

^^^^this^^^^ L0oniX Feb 2014 #100

Social darwinism = touting "survival of the fittest" as appropriate social policy. El_Johns Feb 2014 #33

Incorrect. blackspade Feb 2014 #45

Post 28 says nothing El_Johns Feb 2014 #46

Sorry you don't understand. blackspade Feb 2014 #47

So what? The core idea is that the "strong" SHOULD prosper and the "weak" SHOULD not. El_Johns Feb 2014 #48

... Rex Feb 2014 #59

same to you. El_Johns Feb 2014 #64

The point that I was trying to make that you are either ignoring blackspade Feb 2014 #65

Please explain to me how Marxism is social darwinism. El_Johns Feb 2014 #67

Seriously? blackspade Feb 2014 #69

First, i disagree with you on what you call the "central tenant (sic) of Marxism". But for El_Johns Feb 2014 #70

I already did. blackspade Feb 2014 #71

No, actually you just said one thing = another, as though it were self-evident. El_Johns Feb 2014 #73

I'm not sure what your beef is but, blackspade Feb 2014 #77

I disagree with you and am asking you to explain why you think Marxism is social darwinism. El_Johns Feb 2014 #78

Your entitled to your opinion. blackspade Feb 2014 #79

Ideas aren't just matters of opinion. There is no theory in your discussion. Victorian thought El_Johns Feb 2014 #80

Victorian social thought is a part of Victorian culture blackspade Feb 2014 #88

I just read up on this for something else. YOU are wrong. Pretzel_Warrior Feb 2014 #85

No shit blackspade Feb 2014 #87

Which word, social or Darwinism? Progressive dog Feb 2014 #94

Only Nixon could go to China arendt Feb 2014 #27

Only Nixon could go to China Progressive dog Feb 2014 #91

So your addition to the discussion here is that you think the OP is funny? Care to elaborate? nm rhett o rick Feb 2014 #35

Well looky there...it is a progressive doggy! Rex Feb 2014 #60

PINO rhett o rick Feb 2014 #72

If you don't get it, Progressive dog Feb 2014 #90

You gotta love the absolute certainty. "There is no shadow government in the USA." rhett o rick Feb 2014 #99

Do you believe in creationism as opposed Progressive dog Feb 2014 #101

So you dont know with absolute certainty that there isnt a shadow government yet rhett o rick Feb 2014 #104

There is no shadow government, Progressive dog Feb 2014 #109

Again with the adacious absolute certainty. Just because you dont know of any evidence doesnt rhett o rick Feb 2014 #110

In this case, yes absolute certainty. Progressive dog Feb 2014 #111

Simplistic and primative. If you don't see it it isn't there. Enjoy your rock. L0oniX Feb 2014 #102

So you think there is a shadow government? Progressive dog Feb 2014 #103

It's useless to present evidence to someone in denial. Do you accept the evidence for climate rhett o rick Feb 2014 #113

Yes but not for creationism, shadow governments, Progressive dog Feb 2014 #114

their palace is on Wall st KG Feb 2014 #12

Must Read, IMO K&R n/t Martin Eden Feb 2014 #18

I'll just cut & paste this on "Infowars" 7962 Feb 2014 #19

If you don't like Alternet, you can see the original at Bill Moyers.Com. bvar22 Feb 2014 #32

I'm just tired of all the "shadow government" crap. Same thing the right says all the time. 7962 Feb 2014 #36

If you are too tired to listen to Bill Moyers or Mike Lofgren, bvar22 Feb 2014 #41

Didnt say I didnt care, I said I was tired of it. I'm also tired of "obama is kenyan"; 7962 Feb 2014 #49

+10 (nt) reACTIONary Feb 2014 #52

Ahhhh....Got IT!!! bvar22 Feb 2014 #53

Regarding my post 19, see post 57. 7962 Feb 2014 #63

You don't think they're getting the policies they want now? cui bono Feb 2014 #83

Then why worry about Romney winning? You think they also want the POSITIVE things Obama's done? 7962 Feb 2014 #89

LMFAO ...you rock! L0oniX Feb 2014 #105

As tired as you may be of hearing it, the country is a million more times "tired" of it happening. cui bono Feb 2014 #84

thanks bvar, just watched this.. 2banon Feb 2014 #56

+1 Everyone would do well to pay attention to Bill Moyers. L0oniX Feb 2014 #95

However, so many things that Infowars has told us have truedelphi Feb 2014 #38

LOL, Every other day... reACTIONary Feb 2014 #57

Thanks for saving me the time and finding that!!! 7962 Feb 2014 #62

It's easy to criticize. But much harder to commit. So tell us what you think about this. nm rhett o rick Feb 2014 #74

and it's not going away heaven05 Feb 2014 #20

Just figuring this out? relayerbob Feb 2014 #21

Well Worth The Read cantbeserious Feb 2014 #22

Excellent, depressing read. blackspade Feb 2014 #24

and the black budget produces their kool-aid toby jo Feb 2014 #25

K&R - this article is from billmoyers dot com johnnyreb Feb 2014 #29

Marking this for a later read. progressoid Feb 2014 #30

The shadow Government is "The Family." Been calling the shots for decades. The White House is mere blkmusclmachine Feb 2014 #40

Nice post pscot Feb 2014 #51

Sadly it's far easier to screw up government then it is to make it work. yourout Feb 2014 #55

It's in their benefit to perpetuate dysfunction jsr Feb 2014 #93

Duh. DeSwiss Feb 2014 #58

Those are some damning quotes. blackspade Feb 2014 #68

Couldn't have said it better myself. defacto7 Feb 2014 #76

SO DON'T BOTHER TO VOTE BECAUSE IT WON'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE. aquart Feb 2014 #81

Bumper sticker: "WE SUCK LESS" L0oniX Feb 2014 #97

DON'T BOTHER TO READ - ANYTHING!!! JackRiddler Feb 2014 #106

Oh, for pete's sake. nt woo me with science Feb 2014 #107

Exactly because voting means you are free. The only obligation of a citizen is to vote. rhett o rick Feb 2014 #112

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K&R'd � terrific article! snot Feb 2014 #108

kick woo me with science Feb 2014 #115

Please, everyone, pass this article on beyond DU. woo me with science Feb 2014 #116

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