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Sun Feb 23, 2014, 01:49 AM

Feb 2014

Marketers objectify many things in order to sell various products.

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Objectification will always be around, advertising depends on it [View all] quinnox Feb 2014 OP

what if there were no advertising? El_Johns Feb 2014 #1

In some utopian world of the future? Maybe, but ain't gonna happen any time soon quinnox Feb 2014 #3

Bruce warned about people like you hfojvt Feb 2014 #62

There would still be objectification going on AgingAmerican Feb 2014 #5

Do you think marketing has any relationship to objectification? El_Johns Feb 2014 #6

Yes AgingAmerican Feb 2014 #12

How about a society in which marketing, advertising, self-marketing in the competition for capital, El_Johns Feb 2014 #17

Even our 'news' is marketing AgingAmerican Feb 2014 #27

Yes, seems so to me too. El_Johns Feb 2014 #30

Prices go down a little? BadgerKid Feb 2014 #100

A fine idea.. how do you propose to sell it to the people? Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #218

No purpose in trying to 'sell' it, as it doesn't exist or not exist because of some conscious El_Johns Feb 2014 #235

The DVR has done more damage to the advertising industry Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #241

I don't think it has; advertising is still ubiquitous, even more so than when i was young. El_Johns Feb 2014 #244

If advertising were suddenly to disappear? Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #328

This message was self-deleted by its author quinnox Feb 2014 #2

heterosexuals would wither and vanish without it lol nt msongs Feb 2014 #4

That's not the point frazzled Feb 2014 #7

Yea, but lets just say this is a very "first world" type problem quinnox Feb 2014 #8

Your post is majestic in its stupidity. Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #16

Exactly.....where do you go from there when they don't even understand the irony of THAT VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #28

But, that is his specialty. nt UtahLib Feb 2014 #33

I see. Any problems you don't have are to be minimized and then denied. Warpy Feb 2014 #75

It's actually not solely a first world problem at all. Objectification, properly understood, is El_Johns Feb 2014 #80

Sure, if you expand the definition, any word can come to mean just about anything quinnox Feb 2014 #81

It's not an expansion of the definition. El_Johns Feb 2014 #82

It should ring a Bell. nt msanthrope Feb 2014 #136

The objectification controversy has been centering on sex Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2014 #99

Because commodified labor is where the idea of objectification comes from. El_Johns Feb 2014 #192

Yet you peddle Marxism as if the apparatchiks sitting behind their desk Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2014 #194

I *am* a worker. A low-wage worker. In fact, a minimum wage worker. I walk 40 miles a week and El_Johns Feb 2014 #195

And? You should see the crap my husband and his crew have to deal with. Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2014 #197

lol. too much of a caricature to bother. El_Johns Feb 2014 #198

That's a really stoopid thing to say. Democracyinkind Feb 2014 #87

No it isn't ismnotwasm Feb 2014 #182

Yep, that's what they told Rosa Parks... CTyankee Feb 2014 #209

This message was self-deleted by its author btrflykng9 Feb 2014 #222

Smoking was a billion dollar buisness LostOne4Ever Feb 2014 #9

Right, funny how anyone who posts an OP not in line with the militant feminists quinnox Feb 2014 #10

And making a post LostOne4Ever Feb 2014 #13

Maybe trolling is in the eye of the beholder quinnox Feb 2014 #15

Oh you mean the ones where they are LostOne4Ever Feb 2014 #25

Fine. I love it when someone who has been here at DU since last year gets to decide all this quinnox Feb 2014 #29

I love it when someone uses an ad hominem when their lack of logic is exposed LostOne4Ever Feb 2014 #41

Whatever quinnox Feb 2014 #43

Certainly! LostOne4Ever Feb 2014 #44

Almost as weak as predicating the validity of an answer on a start date for member status. LanternWaste Feb 2014 #370

You're getting off topic on your own OP. chervilant Feb 2014 #119

P.S. chervilant Feb 2014 #120

As you thoroughly prove, post count is no measure of intellect or ability Scootaloo Feb 2014 #204

Speaking of intellect, I wasn't referring to post count quinnox Feb 2014 #304

Fine. I'll say it to you, too. CTyankee Feb 2014 #210

so anyone pointing out and disagreeing with objectification on DU in GD is a militant feminist? VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #31

No not anyone, just the militant feminists and you know who you are. n/t Cleita Feb 2014 #46

no apparently YOU know who they are.... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #47

But not I said the guilty party, not I. n/t Cleita Feb 2014 #49

So are you saying I am a militant feminist because I don't think that T&A is appropriate VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #56

You know who you are. I do not pass judgement.n/t Cleita Feb 2014 #60

If that is YOUR description then I will wear it proudly.... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #66

Amazing how you twist peoples words into your very own fiction. Cleita Feb 2014 #71

Seems a fair assesment to me. Democracyinkind Feb 2014 #88

"Militant feminist" Puglover Feb 2014 #137

I just call them bullies. RC Feb 2014 #151

Agreed. Puglover Feb 2014 #152

Meanwhile, anyone who does not accept an ill-defined or potentially misapplied idea of Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2014 #91

That is exactly the pattern one sees in thread after thread after thread Vinnie From Indy Feb 2014 #148

Unless it deals with a personal and tragic instance in someone's life LanternWaste Feb 2014 #371

I don't know who they are cyberswede Feb 2014 #51

You don't have to. They know who they are and they will make themselves known to you very Cleita Feb 2014 #59

To be fair... cyberswede Feb 2014 #64

Well, good you have been spared. n/t Cleita Feb 2014 #70

+1000 Katashi_itto Feb 2014 #79

The fact that you are using the term, "feminists" in a defamatory manner Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #329

Whenever I see an ad with a woman stripped nearly naked and posed like a whore Warpy Feb 2014 #11

And you have a right to make that choice. Cleita Feb 2014 #45

Do we also have the right not to have it thrown up in GD on DU? VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #50

Like I said where should it go, the Religion Forum? Cleita Feb 2014 #57

Do they do it in church? Then it CAN be regulated....it poisons the atmosphere here.... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #58

Yes, and you should practice that respect for people who have opinions different than yours. n/t Cleita Feb 2014 #61

THAT is wholly different....this is about preserving a place for women to debate...in a fair playing VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #63

Whatever you say, because you won't give up until I give in. So I yield. n/t Cleita Feb 2014 #65

and you don't give up until you recognize you are wrong.....yeah I notice patterns... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #67

Tsch, tsch. More fiction. No I just get tired of inane bull shit. So again I yield and exit. Cleita Feb 2014 #72

Whatever gets you through the night... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #73

The day I allow a magazine cover to stop me from speaking my mind is the day I Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2014 #101

It is NOT about the magazine cover... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #179

There is a place, in fact several places on DU. RC Feb 2014 #154

Yes, this is what I don't understand. They have their own forums. They can ban anyone they Cleita Feb 2014 #164

Take a look at the GD hosts and the way they work. RC Feb 2014 #170

and I don't think that is coincidence either... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #181

So we must 'respect' the people who post disrespectful photos. M'kay. laundry_queen Feb 2014 #78

I have not seen any disrespectful photos published. Cleita Feb 2014 #92

Well laundry_queen Feb 2014 #166

YOU haven't but apparently quite a few other women HAVE... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #183

So anything that gets displayed at Walmart or a big box store is appropriate for DU? thucythucy Feb 2014 #376

.... Democracyinkind Feb 2014 #90

Please address this to those who are actually doing the whining, not me. eom Cleita Feb 2014 #93

It's not about whining. Democracyinkind Feb 2014 #95

Buwahahaha! Cleita Feb 2014 #97

Is that supposed to be an answer? Democracyinkind Feb 2014 #103

You don't get that? Cleita Feb 2014 #105

Then Please stop whining now. Obviously it's the one thing that isn't allowed. Democracyinkind Feb 2014 #106

Whatever rocks your world. Just please stay out of mine. n/t Cleita Feb 2014 #107

I won't. I'll answer every moronic post of yours that I'll encounter. Democracyinkind Feb 2014 #108

The rules apply to everyone and I'm not the one whining. Get a clue. n/t Cleita Feb 2014 #110

They do apply to everyone. Democracyinkind Feb 2014 #112

You haven't had a swarm of trolls alert on you either like a pack of coyotes taking down prey. Cleita Feb 2014 #114

No whining about DU please, ok? Democracyinkind Feb 2014 #116

LOL! The straw man commeth. n/t Cleita Feb 2014 #123

You were clearly complaining about DU. Democracyinkind Feb 2014 #125

Nope, I never complain about DU. I was complaining about trolls on DU something every website Cleita Feb 2014 #129

I was doing the same about MRA trolls when you started this. Democracyinkind Feb 2014 #133

I don't know your acronym. What do you mean by MRA? Cleita Feb 2014 #134

Men's Rights Activists, which I believe are behind the current flame fest. Democracyinkind Feb 2014 #138

All right we agree to disagree. You really should state your whole opinion, otherwise you Cleita Feb 2014 #142

So you are admitting to stalking? RC Feb 2014 #155

If you consider answering someone you disagree with stalking, then yes. Democracyinkind Feb 2014 #157

What? Guns is in their? Coulda fooled me. ny Eleanors38 Feb 2014 #316

Aren't you a big Hyundai fan? I guess your walk and your talk don't always agree? Romulox Feb 2014 #143

You need to stop guessing. You're very bad at it Warpy Feb 2014 #190

No insult intended. I'm just pointing out that it's not as simple as pronouncing a rule on the net. Romulox Feb 2014 #249

Whenever I see an ad like that Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #220

Hmmm, what if the product is adult escort services? Flatulo Feb 2014 #332

Well then it's okay then. Iggo Feb 2014 #14

it's called having a reality check quinnox Feb 2014 #18

WOW....just wow....hmmmm "living in clouds....not in reality.... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #32

"Sexism is real. Deal with it" Democracyinkind Feb 2014 #111

The human race depends on it. Vashta Nerada Feb 2014 #19

Indeed. Objectification is all around us quinnox Feb 2014 #21

Objectification is not sexual attraction. Seeing people's physical charms is not objectification. El_Johns Feb 2014 #34

Okay, there you go bringing reality into it. rrneck Feb 2014 #38

Huh. Vashta Nerada Feb 2014 #40

I think there's a lot of sloppy talk in the media that would lead you to that assumption. But it's El_Johns Feb 2014 #42

See, I like the way you're engaging me with this topic. Vashta Nerada Feb 2014 #53

Thank you. That's the nicest thing anyone's ever said to me here. El_Johns Feb 2014 #55

Objectification is literally the opposite of subjectification. To be a subject... Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #52

So it's removing the person from the person. Vashta Nerada Feb 2014 #54

The word is used incorrectly and without context so often that it can become meaningless. Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #69

I'm getting the distinction, and I appreciate an actual definition of terms BarackTheVote Feb 2014 #213

The artistry of magazine modeling is not a passive force. It drives consumption. Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #279

Respectfully disagree BarackTheVote Feb 2014 #305

Technical mastery and work ethic mean nil if you possess no meaningful philosophy. Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #318

Everybody has a meaningful philosophy. nt rrneck Feb 2014 #322

Definitely not the case. Some people live shallow existences. Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #323

I'm not into judging people. rrneck Feb 2014 #327

Because a majority of people want to do right does not mean there aren't many who do not. Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #330

Of course I do. rrneck Feb 2014 #331

"Meaningful philosophy" is nothing but subjective. BarackTheVote Feb 2014 #349

Sure isn't ismnotwasm Feb 2014 #248

Does saying the men here at DU "wank off" to SI covers are being objectified? (nt) Inkfreak Feb 2014 #160

Do you seriously think that the human race is going to die off... MadrasT Feb 2014 #139

its not about stopping it....its about it being on DU in GD! VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #20

Where should it be? In the Religion Forum? n/t Cleita Feb 2014 #48

... Democracyinkind Feb 2014 #89

According to Skinner. . pipoman Feb 2014 #94

I don't see how locking T+A threads constitutes "strict enforcement" Democracyinkind Feb 2014 #96

My point is pipoman Feb 2014 #98

I'm not hanging on it as the law of the land. Democracyinkind Feb 2014 #102

This very discussion justifies it pipoman Feb 2014 #115

I don't see that at all. Agree to disagree, then? Democracyinkind Feb 2014 #117

sure pipoman Feb 2014 #121

You seem to be applying reasonableness and logic to some who can't think logically. Cleita Feb 2014 #109

You seem like s teabagger to me too. Democracyinkind Feb 2014 #118

You are starting to stalk me. That's also against the rules and alertable. Cleita Feb 2014 #124

I am free to reply to any and all of your posts. Democracyinkind Feb 2014 #126

No. There is a line where it's considered stalking. Trust me on this. n/t Cleita Feb 2014 #128

I don't trust you. I will reply if you're talking about me. Democracyinkind Feb 2014 #132

It depends on what your opinion is. RC Feb 2014 #158

He also said to "be ruthless with meta-type threads", after he got rid of meta. Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #231

I don't see how that would work. I was in favor of closing META, we couldn't handle it Democracyinkind Feb 2014 #236

I am quoting what Skinner himself said. Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #239

I don't think that ANYONE spends ALL his time discussing DU. Democracyinkind Feb 2014 #243

Right. Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #246

Exactly. Democracyinkind Feb 2014 #251

Well, that's an odd statement. Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #252

Is there anyone on DU who hasn't "met" you? Democracyinkind Feb 2014 #258

Catchy? Hey, flattery will get you everywhere. Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #260

It has a feel of the past. Democracyinkind Feb 2014 #298

I've tried to stop taking certain aspects of this site all that seriously, myself. Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #302

If One's Offended... KharmaTrain Feb 2014 #22

Screaming about it on DU specifically isn't going to change a thing. Vashta Nerada Feb 2014 #23

+1 quinnox Feb 2014 #26

Can't they also demand that it NOT occur on DU in GD? Isn't that what they are asking for? VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #35

Every basic human emotion, motivation, fear and desire has been monetized. nt rrneck Feb 2014 #24

+1 El_Johns Feb 2014 #37

Careful. The morality police are on their way, but I agree with you. n/t Cleita Feb 2014 #36

Yep, they have arrived. The morality thought police can go to hell, as far as I'm concerned quinnox Feb 2014 #39

Many women make a very good.. deathrind Feb 2014 #68

Yes, especially when they are sunning themselves around their swimming pool in a few years, Cleita Feb 2014 #74

as long as they don't complain about "not being taken seriously" Skittles Feb 2014 #319

Yeah, a few decades ago that was the whine. Cleita Feb 2014 #321

That's what objectification is about: "making a living" (good or otherwise) by being a El_Johns Feb 2014 #77

Well, thank goodness those muddle-headed women have the Marxist Morality Police Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2014 #104

Yeah, apparently models are supposed to be muscle bound athletes who don't wear make up. Cleita Feb 2014 #113

A thread I started made an effort to define what constituted objectification. Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2014 #122

Yes, I do and many of the women I go to the gym with do it as an exercise. Cleita Feb 2014 #127

And I'll bet these women you describe Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2014 #130

They can because a lot of them have taken up boxing as part of their exercise routine. n/t Cleita Feb 2014 #131

Also, I forgot to add, that one of the new trends they are picking up is belly dancing. Cleita Feb 2014 #141

It's okay to shame women who have been identified as "dogs" or otherwise msanthrope Feb 2014 #145

Huh? I haven't seen any reference to dogs. Cleita Feb 2014 #146

Really? The "dogs" comment is pretty famous..... msanthrope Feb 2014 #149

It's still not part of the conversation here and one of your links was Cleita Feb 2014 #150

I think is part of the conversation here...as you pointed out, what would the models msanthrope Feb 2014 #153

That's easy. There's a cult of women here and I supposed everywhere, who call themselves feminists Cleita Feb 2014 #156

Thank you...I'm sorry my first post wasn't clearer. You've described the crazy here, exactly. msanthrope Feb 2014 #161

Yeah, it wasn't clear to me. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to be harsh. Cleita Feb 2014 #165

You weren't harsh...I was assuming everyone knew all the inside baseball! msanthrope Feb 2014 #167

Very good insight there RC Feb 2014 #162

Buwhahaha! Cleita Feb 2014 #163

My name is on that prestigious list also. RC Feb 2014 #168

I'm actually not banned on that one because I never venture in there. Cleita Feb 2014 #169

You're #47 on that list pintobean Feb 2014 #172

Cool. I don't want to belong to a feminist group who are anti-women.n/t Cleita Feb 2014 #173

I've posted in there twice pintobean Feb 2014 #175

Well, give it time. You will fall into disgrace with the regime down the line. Cleita Feb 2014 #176

I asked to be banned, they refused. I sooo wanted the #46 jersey. nt msanthrope Feb 2014 #180

Maybe you can bribe the host. pintobean Feb 2014 #185

She says I have to post in there. Which I never have. Maybe I should just do a Walt Starr homage? msanthrope Feb 2014 #186

See, my suggestion applies. pintobean Feb 2014 #187

You know you are brilliant, right? nt msanthrope Feb 2014 #188

Lol. No. /nt pintobean Feb 2014 #189

I got banned for Defending equal Rights for everyone. RC Feb 2014 #269

Damn - I'm not on that list! GoneOffShore Feb 2014 #336

my wife was a bartender and a waitress pt and ft for for over 30 years madrchsod Feb 2014 #259

I'm sorry that happened to her but not surprised. Cleita Feb 2014 #272

It should ring a Bell. nt msanthrope Feb 2014 #144

par for the course. El_Johns Feb 2014 #191

SRSLY? BarackTheVote Feb 2014 #270

Exactly. Cleita Feb 2014 #317

Whr d u c me tlling nyne wht 2 du? El_Johns Feb 2014 #377

No one cares.....what they do to make their living.... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #76

Of course. But does it have to be featured in OP's on a progressive political site? n/t pnwmom Feb 2014 #83

Does the Anti Gay Crusade's leader need to be featured as hero in OPs on a progressive site? Bluenorthwest Feb 2014 #140

It will be around as long as people continue to justify it BainsBane Feb 2014 #84

I suggest further reading... rrneck Feb 2014 #200

Further reading in what? BainsBane Feb 2014 #203

You could start with the post you replied to. rrneck Feb 2014 #205

"a woman being objectified and not minding it" BainsBane Feb 2014 #211

Word salad. rrneck Feb 2014 #214

I read art history and I know Fragonard. I also know what happened to his world in Paris. CTyankee Feb 2014 #216

Yes. It was bad. rrneck Feb 2014 #217

Poor you, then. Reading art history is my "thing" in life...being retired I can read a LOT. CTyankee Feb 2014 #224

Hey, I got Rosie the Riveter in there too. rrneck Feb 2014 #238

You have misinterpreted the Fragonard painting. Perhaps you are the one who should Tanuki Feb 2014 #245

Hey, you're right. rrneck Feb 2014 #250

how sad that the arc of history bent not to them but to others in the French Revolution... CTyankee Feb 2014 #278

I just couldn't think of a pre twentieth century painting rrneck Feb 2014 #281

well, we could look to the dear gap-toothed Saskia, painted by her husband, Rembrandt. She is plain CTyankee Feb 2014 #289

Who's to say they weren't hotties back in the day. rrneck Feb 2014 #297

Not judging, describing...Rembrandt was never strongly influenced by the Italian ideal, his ideas CTyankee Feb 2014 #301

How do we know rrneck Feb 2014 #306

You clearly haven't looked at the commonplace looks of his two wives...if he had wanted to CTyankee Feb 2014 #310

I rather prefer the Ash Can school. But that's me. rrneck Feb 2014 #315

Interesting thesis and one I had not heard/read about. CTyankee Feb 2014 #334

Well, it is just Wiki. rrneck Feb 2014 #337

My guess is you are referring to Francois Boucher's famous "Resting Maiden." CTyankee Feb 2014 #339

Porn is art. nt rrneck Feb 2014 #341

when it is art, it is called erotica. CTyankee Feb 2014 #343

Erotica is high class porn. rrneck Feb 2014 #345

Whatever... CTyankee Feb 2014 #347

Whatever indeed. rrneck Feb 2014 #348

I don't get your point. I thought we were having a discussion about art...it's just bizarre... CTyankee Feb 2014 #351

Of course you don't get my point rrneck Feb 2014 #353

You have explained it all! If only I had studied art... CTyankee Feb 2014 #356

Yes, I have. Thank you. rrneck Feb 2014 #359

My secret shame is OUT! You have UNMASKED me! CTyankee Feb 2014 #361

Nah. You deserve all the credit for that. rrneck Feb 2014 #363

funny you should ask. he's coming for dinner tonight... CTyankee Feb 2014 #364

Tell Serra I said he's an asshole rrneck Feb 2014 #365

Oh, my. PLease don't get mad but... CTyankee Feb 2014 #367

He's a helluva artist. rrneck Feb 2014 #368

Actually, I think it got in the way of their lunch break places (and should have been remedied)... CTyankee Feb 2014 #372

Nah, he signed up for it. rrneck Feb 2014 #373

OK, so we can agree on worker displacement and rejection. It is gone, isn't it? CTyankee Feb 2014 #374

Sorry, here's some more. rrneck Feb 2014 #375

And come to think of it... rrneck Feb 2014 #208

Since you clearly don't know what objectification is BainsBane Feb 2014 #212

Just as I expected. rrneck Feb 2014 #215

If you can't bother to watch the video BainsBane Feb 2014 #219

I've already seen it. rrneck Feb 2014 #221

You clearly didn't BainsBane Feb 2014 #229

So you got nothing. Allrighty then. rrneck Feb 2014 #253

"Got nothing?? BainsBane Feb 2014 #268

Y'know, it's a funny thing rrneck Feb 2014 #273

I have an example for you. pintobean Feb 2014 #223

Bingo. nt rrneck Feb 2014 #225

Leave it to you BainsBane Feb 2014 #255

Self reflection or self objectification? rrneck Feb 2014 #262

I guess the mirror sucks. pintobean Feb 2014 #264

Pintobean BainsBane Feb 2014 #271

It has nothing to do with you personally. pintobean Feb 2014 #277

I always found BainseBane to be a great member of this community. hrmjustin Feb 2014 #296

Feeling guilty? rrneck Feb 2014 #274

A fine time, indeed. Women were needed as we were on wartime footing and we needed women to CTyankee Feb 2014 #237

Well, I guess objectification isn't the rrneck Feb 2014 #240

well, I don't know what that means but clearly women got screwed in their job opportunities that CTyankee Feb 2014 #266

No. It's not funny. rrneck Feb 2014 #292

but you are missing the point. The women so affected didn't just fade away. History took over and CTyankee Feb 2014 #303

Maybe. rrneck Feb 2014 #312

Not every woman in those factories wanted to give up their jobs. CTyankee Feb 2014 #313

So what? rrneck Feb 2014 #314

I will tell you why but I am frankly disappointed that you haven't found this out. CTyankee Feb 2014 #335

So they had autonomy and camadarie and solidarity... rrneck Feb 2014 #338

Women were absolutely in the labor movement. Ever heard of Mother Jones? CTyankee Feb 2014 #340

Mother Jones would have been one of the women to which I was referring. rrneck Feb 2014 #342

and why not? Newsflash, factory work has been declining in this country for a good while now. CTyankee Feb 2014 #344

Indeed it has. Why? rrneck Feb 2014 #346

blaming feminists is just wrong. If you don't like feminism, fine, but don't make up stuff about CTyankee Feb 2014 #350

I'm not blaming you for the ills of the world. rrneck Feb 2014 #352

thank you for your concern and advice. CTyankee Feb 2014 #354

I'm waiting for you there. nt rrneck Feb 2014 #355

uh huh...nt CTyankee Feb 2014 #357

That's what you don't seem to understand. rrneck Feb 2014 #358

Oh, dear. And I was going to bring the Merlot... CTyankee Feb 2014 #360

Hey, I like Merlot. rrneck Feb 2014 #362

"advertising depends on it" defacto7 Feb 2014 #85

Is that you, Edward Bernais? Democracyinkind Feb 2014 #86

by chance do you mean ... Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #264

Yes. Forgot that he was spelled with a y. Democracyinkind Feb 2014 #291

I think his work is germaine to this discussion. Thanks for bringing him up. Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #299

Absolutely. Thanks for seconding! Democracyinkind Feb 2014 #300

Why don't some people understand that objectification spooky3 Feb 2014 #135

^^^ THIS ^^^ etherealtruth Feb 2014 #159

Perfect. Thank you. RBStevens Feb 2014 #171

Another objectification thread... DontTreadOnMe Feb 2014 #147

You would need a Taliban-style regime to stop "objectification" LittleBlue Feb 2014 #174

Yes, a little real consideration of what could happen. It's already starting here in Cleita Feb 2014 #177

Pretty much LittleBlue Feb 2014 #178

Jealous? Of what, the money they make or their looks or both? RBStevens Feb 2014 #184

I don't see jealousy but I do see faux outrage. rrneck Feb 2014 #193

I don't think you know what objectification means. Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #199

No one does, because it isn't provable LittleBlue Feb 2014 #202

Well, pretty much all porn IS objectification Scootaloo Feb 2014 #206

So sorry, but that's too closely associated with theocratic cultures LittleBlue Feb 2014 #227

Better take that straw man to see the wizard; it needs a brain Scootaloo Feb 2014 #247

The complaint "you're not listening" is the crutch of a weak argument LittleBlue Feb 2014 #254

Well, it's also a statemnt of when someone is clearly not listening Scootaloo Feb 2014 #263

Once again, you're debating me and not the issue, another crutch LittleBlue Feb 2014 #275

Well, because for the moment the issue was your misrepresentations and mischaracterizations. Scootaloo Feb 2014 #308

How do you explain the explosion of pornography? LittleBlue Feb 2014 #325

Yes, social progress is always an uphill battle Scootaloo Feb 2014 #326

What is your definition of "provable?" Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #207

Having a standardized definition, for one LittleBlue Feb 2014 #230

No, you don't know what it is. Plenty of us do know what it is. Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #267

There are already so many subjects you can't talk about on DU! My Good Babushka Feb 2014 #196

How 'bout simply not using a human body to sell a product? Laffy Kat Feb 2014 #201

The Boil! It SPOKE to me! Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #226

2 recs Kali Feb 2014 #228

Well, maybe people don't want to run afoul of the folks who brag about making lists of posters who Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #233

maybe the tide is turning on some of the bullshit around here Kali Feb 2014 #234

Yeah, that would be great. Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #242

I made the list too! Upton Feb 2014 #307

Three now. redqueen Feb 2014 #257

... Kali Feb 2014 #261

Maybe you should go make a thread about them in HoF quinnox Feb 2014 #280

I just recced it pintobean Feb 2014 #282

Welcome to the "list"! quinnox Feb 2014 #283

I will rec it just as a strong statement against this new "rec policing" fad. Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #287

Ditto that! opiate69 Feb 2014 #294

Plus one more against this new "rec policing" fad. In_The_Wind Feb 2014 #333

Many of my threads get hardly any recs. It has never bothered me quinnox Feb 2014 #276

Yeah, interesting how it is all of a sudden the final authority on what belongs. Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #285

lol, great cat pic! quinnox Feb 2014 #286

Yes Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #288

Well.. ya know... opiate69 Feb 2014 #290

Is that Socks? pintobean Feb 2014 #295

I guess we have to STOP buying the shit that objectifies us! underthematrix Feb 2014 #232

It's objects in general. Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #256

Your thread does not appear to be resonating well. MineralMan Feb 2014 #284

Really? Not my take. I have enjoyed reading it quinnox Feb 2014 #293

So just lay back and enjoy it, ladies. Hell Hath No Fury Feb 2014 #309

Objectification is not just about women, it is about men, and shiny objects too quinnox Feb 2014 #311

You still don't know what objectification means. Which is an exercise in willful igorance... Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #320

Most of this "objectification" talk is just pseudo-intellectual claptrap. gulliver Feb 2014 #324

what are you gonna do about it? HUH? HUH? HUH? HUH? HUH? HUHHHHHHHHHH? alp227 Feb 2014 #366

Quite the accurate example of privilege. LanternWaste Feb 2014 #369