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80. Ideas aren't just matters of opinion. There is no theory in your discussion. Victorian thought

Sun Feb 23, 2014, 03:17 AM

Feb 2014

may be a broad spectrum, but again "social Darwinism" and "Victorian thought" are not identities.

Your repeated assertion & apparent belief that distinct things are the same thing. That produces muddled thinking.

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As in the Politburo malaise Feb 2014 #1

indeed nt xchrom Feb 2014 #2

This is exactly what I thought.... ReRe Feb 2014 #3

+1 xchrom Feb 2014 #4

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Come again? ReRe Feb 2014 #6

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This is the stupidest "argument," to wit: IF there is no difference, then VOTE FOR THE DEMOCRAT. WinkyDink Feb 2014 #13

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"...what exactly is the democrat going to do for me, I wonder?" ReRe Feb 2014 #17

No, I'm not a Democrat - so fire me erronis Feb 2014 #42

If you think Libertarian is being liberal, you are just a republican who WhiteTara Feb 2014 #54

You become what you hate. nt bemildred Feb 2014 #7

They put on a good show for us every four years. nt woo me with science Feb 2014 #8

The Greatest Show on Earth jsr Feb 2014 #16

The Greatest Show on Earth.... AND a Big Business worth BILLIONS. bvar22 Feb 2014 #31

That is great information. Thank you. And truedelphi Feb 2014 #37

I don't think you could do that..... and sleep at night. bvar22 Feb 2014 #39

Reminds me of the first Presidential debate of 2012. DhhD Feb 2014 #43

That gave me pause. Enthusiast Feb 2014 #75

We are moving closer to a pipoman Feb 2014 #9

I hope you're right. merrily Feb 2014 #14

That is funny, especially Progressive dog Feb 2014 #10

I don't think that word means what you think it means. blackspade Feb 2014 #23

I'm sure they had different socila beliefs, so what, Progressive dog Feb 2014 #26

My point is that your use of social Darwinism.... blackspade Feb 2014 #28

You are trying to argue with someone that has to include "progressive" in his name to rhett o rick Feb 2014 #34

! blackspade Feb 2014 #44

How about the screen name of: "AReallyReallyLiberalProgressiveDemocatHonest." nm rhett o rick Feb 2014 #50

LOL! blackspade Feb 2014 #66

I prefer Demodogs. cui bono Feb 2014 #82

Sometimes people forget to look at their name tag jsr Feb 2014 #61

You are even funnier than the social Darwinist. Progressive dog Feb 2014 #92

What could be funnier than you claiming to be progressive? nm rhett o rick Feb 2014 #96

Me caring what you think a progressive is nm Progressive dog Feb 2014 #98

^^^^this^^^^ L0oniX Feb 2014 #100

Social darwinism = touting "survival of the fittest" as appropriate social policy. El_Johns Feb 2014 #33

Incorrect. blackspade Feb 2014 #45

Post 28 says nothing El_Johns Feb 2014 #46

Sorry you don't understand. blackspade Feb 2014 #47

So what? The core idea is that the "strong" SHOULD prosper and the "weak" SHOULD not. El_Johns Feb 2014 #48

... Rex Feb 2014 #59

same to you. El_Johns Feb 2014 #64

The point that I was trying to make that you are either ignoring blackspade Feb 2014 #65

Please explain to me how Marxism is social darwinism. El_Johns Feb 2014 #67

Seriously? blackspade Feb 2014 #69

First, i disagree with you on what you call the "central tenant (sic) of Marxism". But for El_Johns Feb 2014 #70

I already did. blackspade Feb 2014 #71

No, actually you just said one thing = another, as though it were self-evident. El_Johns Feb 2014 #73

I'm not sure what your beef is but, blackspade Feb 2014 #77

I disagree with you and am asking you to explain why you think Marxism is social darwinism. El_Johns Feb 2014 #78

Your entitled to your opinion. blackspade Feb 2014 #79

Ideas aren't just matters of opinion. There is no theory in your discussion. Victorian thought El_Johns Feb 2014 #80

Victorian social thought is a part of Victorian culture blackspade Feb 2014 #88

I just read up on this for something else. YOU are wrong. Pretzel_Warrior Feb 2014 #85

No shit blackspade Feb 2014 #87

Which word, social or Darwinism? Progressive dog Feb 2014 #94

Only Nixon could go to China arendt Feb 2014 #27

Only Nixon could go to China Progressive dog Feb 2014 #91

So your addition to the discussion here is that you think the OP is funny? Care to elaborate? nm rhett o rick Feb 2014 #35

Well looky there...it is a progressive doggy! Rex Feb 2014 #60

PINO rhett o rick Feb 2014 #72

If you don't get it, Progressive dog Feb 2014 #90

You gotta love the absolute certainty. "There is no shadow government in the USA." rhett o rick Feb 2014 #99

Do you believe in creationism as opposed Progressive dog Feb 2014 #101

So you dont know with absolute certainty that there isnt a shadow government yet rhett o rick Feb 2014 #104

There is no shadow government, Progressive dog Feb 2014 #109

Again with the adacious absolute certainty. Just because you dont know of any evidence doesnt rhett o rick Feb 2014 #110

In this case, yes absolute certainty. Progressive dog Feb 2014 #111

Simplistic and primative. If you don't see it it isn't there. Enjoy your rock. L0oniX Feb 2014 #102

So you think there is a shadow government? Progressive dog Feb 2014 #103

It's useless to present evidence to someone in denial. Do you accept the evidence for climate rhett o rick Feb 2014 #113

Yes but not for creationism, shadow governments, Progressive dog Feb 2014 #114

their palace is on Wall st KG Feb 2014 #12

Must Read, IMO K&R n/t Martin Eden Feb 2014 #18

I'll just cut & paste this on "Infowars" 7962 Feb 2014 #19

If you don't like Alternet, you can see the original at Bill Moyers.Com. bvar22 Feb 2014 #32

I'm just tired of all the "shadow government" crap. Same thing the right says all the time. 7962 Feb 2014 #36

If you are too tired to listen to Bill Moyers or Mike Lofgren, bvar22 Feb 2014 #41

Didnt say I didnt care, I said I was tired of it. I'm also tired of "obama is kenyan"; 7962 Feb 2014 #49

+10 (nt) reACTIONary Feb 2014 #52

Ahhhh....Got IT!!! bvar22 Feb 2014 #53

Regarding my post 19, see post 57. 7962 Feb 2014 #63

You don't think they're getting the policies they want now? cui bono Feb 2014 #83

Then why worry about Romney winning? You think they also want the POSITIVE things Obama's done? 7962 Feb 2014 #89

LMFAO ...you rock! L0oniX Feb 2014 #105

As tired as you may be of hearing it, the country is a million more times "tired" of it happening. cui bono Feb 2014 #84

thanks bvar, just watched this.. 2banon Feb 2014 #56

+1 Everyone would do well to pay attention to Bill Moyers. L0oniX Feb 2014 #95

However, so many things that Infowars has told us have truedelphi Feb 2014 #38

LOL, Every other day... reACTIONary Feb 2014 #57

Thanks for saving me the time and finding that!!! 7962 Feb 2014 #62

It's easy to criticize. But much harder to commit. So tell us what you think about this. nm rhett o rick Feb 2014 #74

and it's not going away heaven05 Feb 2014 #20

Just figuring this out? relayerbob Feb 2014 #21

Well Worth The Read cantbeserious Feb 2014 #22

Excellent, depressing read. blackspade Feb 2014 #24

and the black budget produces their kool-aid toby jo Feb 2014 #25

K&R - this article is from billmoyers dot com johnnyreb Feb 2014 #29

Marking this for a later read. progressoid Feb 2014 #30

The shadow Government is "The Family." Been calling the shots for decades. The White House is mere blkmusclmachine Feb 2014 #40

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Duh. DeSwiss Feb 2014 #58

Those are some damning quotes. blackspade Feb 2014 #68

Couldn't have said it better myself. defacto7 Feb 2014 #76

SO DON'T BOTHER TO VOTE BECAUSE IT WON'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE. aquart Feb 2014 #81

Bumper sticker: "WE SUCK LESS" L0oniX Feb 2014 #97

DON'T BOTHER TO READ - ANYTHING!!! JackRiddler Feb 2014 #106

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Exactly because voting means you are free. The only obligation of a citizen is to vote. rhett o rick Feb 2014 #112

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K&R'd � terrific article! snot Feb 2014 #108

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