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Starry Messenger

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28. Agreed, though I want to emphasize that DU is also a business.
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 08:53 PM
Feb 2014

When there are complaints about the T&A here, it's not just a personal opinion, it's complaints that a business is being used to allow objectification of women in a place where we pay money to read and comment.

(this is directed at anyone reading and not the OP!)

I don't think the roots mzteris Feb 2014 #1
I agree with you, but with capitalism, it's more prevalent because there's plenty of $$$$ Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #6
Which is the reason I said "Mass objectification"......... socialist_n_TN Feb 2014 #38
Yes. And I do agree it is turned into a horrific problem by capitalism. nt Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #43
My point. mzteris Feb 2014 #45
Yes. nt Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #46
Exactly. Certain people (women, slaves, etc.) were considered PROPERTY. nt redqueen Feb 2014 #21
You don't need to blame capitalism for the mingling of sex and commerce. Rex Feb 2014 #2
However, for it to become a mass commercial industry... Scootaloo Feb 2014 #4
True, good point. Rex Feb 2014 #5
Absolutely BainsBane Feb 2014 #3
Good post, and I agree that objectification is part and parcel of unrestrained capitalism... Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #7
thanks for injecting some sense into the clusterfuck. El_Johns Feb 2014 #8
Objectification is not, in itself, a bad thing. rrneck Feb 2014 #9
Objectification means treating a human as an object. El_Johns Feb 2014 #11
Yes. And we all do it for any number of reasons. rrneck Feb 2014 #12
Can you give an example of objectification that is good because it's done for the proper reasons? El_Johns Feb 2014 #13
I dunno. I never tried. rrneck Feb 2014 #14
Not sure what you're saying. Is it that objectification is OK if it's done to workers and soldiers? El_Johns Feb 2014 #15
No. rrneck Feb 2014 #18
In what way is it (being a thing) part of being human? El_Johns Feb 2014 #19
Well, rrneck Feb 2014 #20
Your body is your body, part of "you", who is a human. I think we're talking past each other. El_Johns Feb 2014 #22
I think it's because rrneck Feb 2014 #23
Objectification means dehumanization: to make a human a thing. I don't know how you're using it, El_Johns Feb 2014 #24
Doesn't look like it. rrneck Feb 2014 #25
I'm Batman The Straight Story Feb 2014 #27
Who is the living being batman objectifies? Does batman stand in for all men? El_Johns Feb 2014 #29
SI did a bit on batman The Straight Story Feb 2014 #30
right. El_Johns Feb 2014 #31
It all boils down to the individual and their abilities The Straight Story Feb 2014 #32
"the individual and their abilities". Ja, richtig. El_Johns Feb 2014 #33
The OP is about commodity fetishism and the theory of alienation. joshcryer Feb 2014 #41
You're way ahead of me. rrneck Feb 2014 #44
It's all true, of course, but applied wrong. Think of "sonder." joshcryer Feb 2014 #47
+1 and "Social progress may be measured precisely by the social position of women." Karl Marx Zorra Feb 2014 #10
You ALWAYS get a star Comrada Fox......... socialist_n_TN Feb 2014 #35
Would you say it's a Mass Effect? Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #16
Capitalism and patriarchy TBF Feb 2014 #17
+1. Workers' Power had a women's pamphlet...... socialist_n_TN Feb 2014 #36
I have Engel's book - TBF Feb 2014 #48
Agreed. And Engels is actually a LITTLE easier than even Lenin......... socialist_n_TN Feb 2014 #53
Consumerism is not capitalist. joshcryer Feb 2014 #26
Agreed, though I want to emphasize that DU is also a business. Starry Messenger Feb 2014 #28
When you run a business there's a cost benefit anaylsis. joshcryer Feb 2014 #39
Big words doesn't make you educated or sensible! whistler162 Feb 2014 #34
And neither do small words...... socialist_n_TN Feb 2014 #37
Exactly! Thank you! Well said! scarletwoman Feb 2014 #40
Capitalism. Interesting. This in regards (further) on the objectification of women (the SI issue) flvegan Feb 2014 #42
If you pay someone you TBF Feb 2014 #49
Not correct. stevenleser Feb 2014 #50
A reasonable analysis from a Marxist position.... Adrahil Feb 2014 #51
Marxists did a pretty good job of objectifying 6 million Ukranians to death Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2014 #52
Stalinists (which include Maoists, as Mao took the party organization model from Stalin)...... socialist_n_TN Feb 2014 #54
Marxists are funny. Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2014 #55
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