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In reply to the discussion: WHY IS IT SO HARD FOR OTHER PEOPLE TO DO WHAT RACHEL JUST DID? She called a liar a liar. [View all]Uncle Joe
(64,713 posts)23. I hate to keep going back to this thread but when the shoe fits so comfortably.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002395369
"Do Psychopaths run the world?"
http://www.thehiddenevil.com/psychopathy.asp
"The Psychopathic Influence"
"Lying, deceiving, and manipulation are natural talents for psychopaths," agreed Dr. Robert Hare, in his book, Without Conscience. "When caught in a lie or challenged with the truth, they are seldom perplexed or embarrassed--they simply change their stories or attempt to rework the facts so that they appear to be consistent with the lie."
Psychopaths are always able to justify their actions, no matter how brutal. They have, "an ability to rationalize their behavior so that it appears warranted, reasonable, and justified," says Dr. Cleckley. Dr. Hare added, "Psychopaths show a stunning lack of concern for the devastating effects their actions have on others. Often they are completely forthright about the matter, calmly stating that they have no sense of guilt, [and] are not sorry for the pain and destruction they have caused," which, says Dr. Hare, "is associated with a remarkable ability to rationalize their behavior."
Psychopathy is usually untreatable. Most therapists won't work with them because they often end up damaged in the process. Dr. Hare explained, "Such counseling would be wasted on psychopaths." Some of them will even reflect the wishes of the therapist and pretend to be getting better.
In his book, People of The Lie, psychiatrist Dr. Scott Peck had this to say: "Among themselves therapists will not infrequently refer to a patient's psychopathology as being 'overwhelming.' We mean this literally. We literally feel overwhelmed by the labyrinthine mass of lies and twisted motives ... into which we will be drawn if we attempt to work with such people..."
"Do Psychopaths run the world?"
http://www.thehiddenevil.com/psychopathy.asp
"The Psychopathic Influence"
"Lying, deceiving, and manipulation are natural talents for psychopaths," agreed Dr. Robert Hare, in his book, Without Conscience. "When caught in a lie or challenged with the truth, they are seldom perplexed or embarrassed--they simply change their stories or attempt to rework the facts so that they appear to be consistent with the lie."
Psychopaths are always able to justify their actions, no matter how brutal. They have, "an ability to rationalize their behavior so that it appears warranted, reasonable, and justified," says Dr. Cleckley. Dr. Hare added, "Psychopaths show a stunning lack of concern for the devastating effects their actions have on others. Often they are completely forthright about the matter, calmly stating that they have no sense of guilt, [and] are not sorry for the pain and destruction they have caused," which, says Dr. Hare, "is associated with a remarkable ability to rationalize their behavior."
Psychopathy is usually untreatable. Most therapists won't work with them because they often end up damaged in the process. Dr. Hare explained, "Such counseling would be wasted on psychopaths." Some of them will even reflect the wishes of the therapist and pretend to be getting better.
In his book, People of The Lie, psychiatrist Dr. Scott Peck had this to say: "Among themselves therapists will not infrequently refer to a patient's psychopathology as being 'overwhelming.' We mean this literally. We literally feel overwhelmed by the labyrinthine mass of lies and twisted motives ... into which we will be drawn if we attempt to work with such people..."
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WHY IS IT SO HARD FOR OTHER PEOPLE TO DO WHAT RACHEL JUST DID? She called a liar a liar. [View all]
kpete
Mar 2012
OP
Exactly. The lack of clear language is what is enraging me when I listen to some of the so called
bluestate10
Mar 2012
#68
Oh, my. You cannot differentiate when someone is flat-out telling an outright lie.
Ikonoklast
Mar 2012
#58
A position change because of thinking change etc is not the same as saying something false
uponit7771
Mar 2012
#43
He also has a faint smile when he lies. He deserves the title "liar candidate".
gordianot
Mar 2012
#6
Anarchists are usually lumped together on the left but they are really not the left-wing.
fasttense
Mar 2012
#84
yep, it seems that some politicians in the repug party have a real problem with fabricating
newspeak
Mar 2012
#22
I hate to keep going back to this thread but when the shoe fits so comfortably.
Uncle Joe
Mar 2012
#23
The People of the Lie is one of my favorite books. I think that is one of the key things that
demgrrrll
Mar 2012
#55
Most people have no idea as to what Psychopaths and Sociopaths act, look or sound like...
Larry Ogg
Mar 2012
#47
Accountability to the law is the only thing that will control a psychopath or sociopath.
fasttense
Mar 2012
#85
It's one of the main reasons I could support a 100% 'tax' on estates over $5m.
TahitiNut
Mar 2012
#87
That was an award-winng piece by Rachel last night. I was fist-pumping and cheering!
bullwinkle428
Mar 2012
#18
As a fellow born & raised adjacent to Mittens both geographically and temporally,
TahitiNut
Mar 2012
#19
Because the MSM have no idea what journalism is. Rachel does. She practices it daily.
LuckyLib
Mar 2012
#30
The Right has been calling us liars for decades. For some reason, Democrats rarely
Liberal_Stalwart71
Mar 2012
#48
because they have 1000 radio stations acting as a giant PC cop and censor-by-threat and the left
certainot
Mar 2012
#70
I doubt "the real Mitt Romney" has ever met "the real Mitt Romney" - he is a phoney through and
Douglas Carpenter
Mar 2012
#107