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In reply to the discussion: Mass objectification is a result of commodification which is....... [View all]joshcryer
(62,270 posts)41. The OP is about commodity fetishism and the theory of alienation.
Which when argued simply does appear to be coherent and acceptable.
However, Marx's approach to the theory of alienation falls on its face as soon as one realizes that social relations are not limited to one mode of production. Marx, at the end, actually began to realize this, and it's one reason his entire critique becomes flimsy, because it is based on this demonization of commodities and industrial production.
Note, I'm agreeing with you, I'm just saying where the content of the OP originates.
We'll advance socialism once we get over this anti-consumerist moral panic.
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socialist_n_TN
Feb 2014
OP
I agree with you, but with capitalism, it's more prevalent because there's plenty of $$$$
Sarah Ibarruri
Feb 2014
#6
Yes. And I do agree it is turned into a horrific problem by capitalism. nt
Sarah Ibarruri
Feb 2014
#43
Good post, and I agree that objectification is part and parcel of unrestrained capitalism...
Sarah Ibarruri
Feb 2014
#7
Can you give an example of objectification that is good because it's done for the proper reasons?
El_Johns
Feb 2014
#13
Not sure what you're saying. Is it that objectification is OK if it's done to workers and soldiers?
El_Johns
Feb 2014
#15
Your body is your body, part of "you", who is a human. I think we're talking past each other.
El_Johns
Feb 2014
#22
Objectification means dehumanization: to make a human a thing. I don't know how you're using it,
El_Johns
Feb 2014
#24
+1 and "Social progress may be measured precisely by the social position of women." Karl Marx
Zorra
Feb 2014
#10
Capitalism. Interesting. This in regards (further) on the objectification of women (the SI issue)
flvegan
Feb 2014
#42
Marxists did a pretty good job of objectifying 6 million Ukranians to death
Nuclear Unicorn
Feb 2014
#52
Stalinists (which include Maoists, as Mao took the party organization model from Stalin)......
socialist_n_TN
Feb 2014
#54