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In reply to the discussion: Before we start bashing Mormons this year, let me say this. [View all]Wind Dancer
(3,618 posts)70. Cars are tangible objects.
God is abstract and differs according to one's faith. People will use their religion as an excuse to commit atrocities.
The Mormons historical racism is another issue Romney doesnt talk about. The church recently weighed in on this issue, after Brigham Young University professor Randy Botts racist remarks sparked a firestorm. Bott said that the churchs ban on African-Americans serving in the priesthood (in place until 1978) was actually a blessing because blacks were not ready for the priesthood. The church quickly repudiated Botts remarks, saying, in a statement, that his views absolutely do not represent the teachings and doctrines of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and We condemn racism, including any and all past racism by individuals both inside and outside the Church. Given that Romney served as a missionary before the ban was officially lifted (in the late 1960s) and attended BYU in the late 1960s and early 1970s, its not beyond the pale to probe his thoughts on this issue, particularly because Mormons across the country are talking about it.
Its not a gotcha question. Romney could go a long way toward humanizing the Romney-bot if he could explain whether he ever contested the LDS ban, in place until 1978, on African-Americans serving in the priesthood, and whether, if true, the ban caused him qualms.
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In my perfect world, presidential candidates wouldnt talk about their religion. They would practice it freely, but they would neither use it to prop up their candidacy nor use their opponents (real or fabricated) religion to bring them down. Lawmakers wouldnt use religion to justify policy positions. And while I have no doubt that plenty of liberals are suspicious of Mormonism either because of Proposition 8, the racism, the patriarchy, the extra-biblical revelations in upstate New York, the secrecy of the hierarchy, posthumous baptisms or from reading Under the Banner of Heaven or watching Big Love its Romneys own party that has imposed religious litmus tests on candidates.
http://www.salon.com/2012/03/08/what_we_should_ask_romney_about_mormonism/
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Oh, I know. But the poster said he hated Romney 'cause he's rich&privileged.
Honeycombe8
Mar 2012
#50
To beat a dead horse, if he said he hates him 'cause "he's a gay out of touch fuckwit"...
Honeycombe8
Mar 2012
#55
The Morman people I have known personally were good, honest, intelligent, generous people.
northoftheborder
Mar 2012
#10
"At least he is not trying to turn us all into Mormons." - Until we die and they
FSogol
Mar 2012
#33
The Mormons I grew up with in the Bay Area, Oakland near the temple, were all pretty nice,
mulsh
Mar 2012
#11
Mormons, like every other religious group on this planet, are members of a cult
scheming daemons
Mar 2012
#51
Jimmy Carter, MLK Jr. and the Kennedys: cultists controlled by myth and superstition!!
onenote
Mar 2012
#64
No, he is just a little more dated and ignorant believing in any type of sky being...
snooper2
Mar 2012
#62
To be fair, they did it in cahoots with their buddy, the Archbishop in San Francisco
EFerrari
Mar 2012
#72