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Cleita

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35. There is no objectification except in some sick minds.

Mon Feb 24, 2014, 01:13 AM

Feb 2014

Actually, the skinniness is for the cameras that adds weight and the height for the runway so they can be seen. It just works that way. I haven't noticed men complaining because basketball players are unusually tall or football players unusually dense and heavy

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Women need to step up to the plate if they want to stop objectifcation [View all] Harmony Blue Feb 2014 OP

Another objectification thread... DontTreadOnMe Feb 2014 #1

it's all objectification . dont tell me women dont do it too leftyohiolib Feb 2014 #14

sexuality and objectification is NOT the same thing,,, VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #26

what is your definition of sexuality leftyohiolib Feb 2014 #112

sexuality isn't dehumanizing...it is quite simple to understand... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #142

i read all that and thankyou for responding but what i wanted was YOUR defintion of leftyohiolib Feb 2014 #147

I don't owe you an explanation of sexuality....if you don't know the difference VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #155

i didnt say you OWED me anything and im not looking to borrow your definition leftyohiolib Feb 2014 #156

I think at this point Dorian Gray Feb 2014 #109

You're injecting abject object-rejections to ejections. Eleanors38 Feb 2014 #124

lol clever leftyohiolib Feb 2014 #158

WTF does that even mean? VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #143

I know what objectification is Dorian Gray Feb 2014 #167

apparently you don't .....you asked I answered...you just don't like the answer... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #171

I didn't ask Dorian Gray Feb 2014 #172

yes but are they objectifying objectification objectively leftyohiolib Feb 2014 #159

women gotta stop rape too! another "objectification" thread brought to DU by those "militant".... bettyellen Feb 2014 #2

Perhaps you missed the celebration of this company's example hlthe2b Feb 2014 #3

LOL you lost. get over it. Whisp Feb 2014 #4

*** L0oniX Feb 2014 #5

What does this mean - RBStevens Feb 2014 #6

Here's a thread that could use your incite. GeorgeGist Feb 2014 #7

and look what happens when we do even on a "progressive" site TorchTheWitch Feb 2014 #8

Actually, I agree with your comments about the fashion industry theHandpuppet Feb 2014 #9

Because the models used to get men's attention are 5-5 and curvy, right? Gormy Cuss Feb 2014 #10

"objectification" merely externalizes blame for how the fashion industry sells to women. lumberjack_jeff Feb 2014 #11

Wow--scary. nt msanthrope Feb 2014 #13

No kidding. ConservativeDemocrat Feb 2014 #36

That is PasadenaTrudy Feb 2014 #137

Not selling to men, but the fashion industry is run by men. cui bono Feb 2014 #98

That's an amazing JustAnotherGen Feb 2014 #121

I hope she's on the road to recovery. Sheesh. Eleanors38 Feb 2014 #125

LOL BainsBane Feb 2014 #12

Well I know in our case JustAnotherGen Feb 2014 #122

Obvious poster is obvious CreekDog Feb 2014 #15

Trash 3,2,1 ismnotwasm Feb 2014 #16

this is the best answer to the problem. you dont like a sports illustrated op then just trash it leftyohiolib Feb 2014 #161

For starter, women should stop wearing makeup FarCenter Feb 2014 #17

Glad to see you bravely rec'd your own thread. Starry Messenger Feb 2014 #18

But, why should I have to worry about this? Zorra Feb 2014 #19

Pfffft. Unrec. n/t demmiblue Feb 2014 #20

The petty squabbling from all sides of these issues Vashta Nerada Feb 2014 #21

hahahaha THAT's RICH! VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #27

Hi. Cleita Feb 2014 #106

Jury voted 2-4 to LEAVE IT. In_The_Wind Feb 2014 #126

I work nights.....got a problem with that? VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #144

lol Sheldon Cooper Feb 2014 #22

That physique is what makes CLOTHES LOOK GOOD, Waiting For Everyman Feb 2014 #23

congratulations on the three recommendations you got for this thread CreekDog Feb 2014 #24

I disagree with some of the wording but there's a good point here. AverageJoe90 Feb 2014 #25

actually if you read the thread....you would see that YOU are again wrong... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #28

What denial? nt AverageJoe90 Feb 2014 #29

You are going from thread to thread to thread to deny sexism and objectification VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #30

That is simply not true. AverageJoe90 Feb 2014 #31

You JUST agreed with a OP that blamed WOMEN!!!!! VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #32

That's honestly not the impression I got. AverageJoe90 Feb 2014 #34

apparently according other posters in this thread....yeah you are.... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #40

"apparently according other posters in this thread....yeah you are...." AverageJoe90 Feb 2014 #64

You know exactly what is going on here... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #68

What games? AverageJoe90 Feb 2014 #72

You know EXACTLY what games.....the games that want to stifle women's voices... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #140

"I know realize the situation is MUCH worse....." AverageJoe90 Feb 2014 #145

OH yes there is....there are places on DU that allow and even encourage VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #146

You mean the Men's Forum? AverageJoe90 Feb 2014 #148

Yeah...go there and have your stomach turned.... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #149

There's probably a lot worse being uncovered by ManBoobz, though. AverageJoe90 Feb 2014 #150

Not talking about some nebulous "other site" I am talking about THIS one... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #154

You seem to have misunderstood my point. AverageJoe90 Feb 2014 #157

sexual intimidation. what a joke leftyohiolib Feb 2014 #163

Post removed Post removed Feb 2014 #114

"the harpies at HoF" sufrommich Feb 2014 #115

That's what I said. Soundman Feb 2014 #116

If you're going to refer to women as harpies sufrommich Feb 2014 #117

he won't be calling anyone anything for a while. nt geek tragedy Feb 2014 #152

Good to know,another one bites sufrommich Feb 2014 #165

see ya, sexist troll Kali Feb 2014 #153

The cadaver x-ray look the fashion industry loves so much Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #33

There is no objectification except in some sick minds. Cleita Feb 2014 #35

I disagree. That's what football exists for. seattledo Feb 2014 #37

This message was self-deleted by its author Cleita Feb 2014 #38

A hero aint nothin' but a sandwich Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #48

A jury should hide that picture Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2014 #118

surely you mean soccer Skittles Feb 2014 #53

No, actually, idealizing skinny, physically weak women is a product of infantilization. Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #41

I've run into those physically weak women in the gym. Cleita Feb 2014 #44

It's as if you don't bother to read or comprehend what others say to you at all. Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #46

You guys are getting so amusing, but I was told to be Cleita Feb 2014 #47

You literally don't know what objectification means. Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #49

Not your version. My version has a mop and drudgery involved but Cleita Feb 2014 #50

Is saying 2+2=4 "my version" of basic arithmetic? Do you realize how foolish you sound? Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #51

LOL! Cleita Feb 2014 #54

Let me ask you a serious question... Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #55

Pretty much. Cleita Feb 2014 #57

Do you make it a habit of laughing at serious subjects? Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #60

No. I worry about fracking on the coast of California. Cleita Feb 2014 #66

This just sounds like you're resentful your OPs on fracking didn't get enough recs and responses... Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #69

Ugh. Cleita Feb 2014 #73

I know you don't understand how serious this issue is considering Cleita Feb 2014 #76

The question you asked is do "we" work in shifts. I can't answer that question... Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #77

Of course you don't. Cleita Feb 2014 #79

Do you seriously believe there's a group conspiring to post in shifts on this website? Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #82

There seems to be shifts. It's very odd. Cleita Feb 2014 #83

It may seem like it but there is no shift work going on. Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #85

Probably cuz most people have you on ignore by now. cui bono Feb 2014 #86

Thanks for the bump and I really wish the people who hate Cleita Feb 2014 #87

I don't think they're playing. cui bono Feb 2014 #89

I,wish they would go into the fracking thread and make fun it. Cleita Feb 2014 #91

I have no desire to make fun of fracking. I know it's a real issue. And even if I didn't know it cui bono Feb 2014 #93

Red herrings and straw men. Cleita Feb 2014 #95

How is that? You told me to go ahead and make fun of fracking. cui bono Feb 2014 #97

But you haven't Cleita Feb 2014 #99

So you're avoiding the questions and issueentirely now? cui bono Feb 2014 #101

This message was self-deleted by its author leftyohiolib Feb 2014 #164

How does changing the parameters of beauty solve anything? Shankapotomus Feb 2014 #39

+1000 Cleita Feb 2014 #59

I'm 5'11" and slender.... blueamy66 Feb 2014 #42

Don't pay attention to them. You are of course entitled to get clothes that fit you. Cleita Feb 2014 #52

It has just been in the last 10 years that designers blueamy66 Feb 2014 #103

I have the opposite problem. Cleita Feb 2014 #105

I always thought "at least short girls can have some length removed"... blueamy66 Feb 2014 #107

You could go back to the late 60s and sew some MineralMan Feb 2014 #123

Thanks for the tip, but I'm okay these days. blueamy66 Feb 2014 #127

I was just kidding, really. MineralMan Feb 2014 #129

See, us tall girls loved those 501s. blueamy66 Feb 2014 #131

Yup. And 6'2" was tall for a guy back then, too. MineralMan Feb 2014 #132

I was stick thin as well. Hated it. blueamy66 Feb 2014 #133

Only if you are skilled at clothing construction especially pants. It's very Cleita Feb 2014 #134

True. But that's what tailors are for. blueamy66 Feb 2014 #136

I found that too expensive. I just don't buy anything that doesn't fit right Cleita Feb 2014 #139

You absolutely should be allowed to find clothes to fit your body type. Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #56

Yes but she should never see a model wear them because .... Cleita Feb 2014 #58

Where did I say that? Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #61

Your own post on this thread # 41 Cleita Feb 2014 #63

Not only does that post not say what you claim, I've also said that thin women are not the problem. Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #65

I don't really care. Cleita Feb 2014 #67

No, I'm not happy at all. How could I be happy in this circumstance? Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #70

Well when you learn communication skills Cleita Feb 2014 #71

Name a part of what I'm saying that doesn't make sense and I'll reexplain it for you. Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #74

You so make me laugh. Cleita Feb 2014 #75

I'm being serious. You said I've said things that don't make sense. Point them out... Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #78

Okay. Why do you and your lady friends in those forums I can't post in Cleita Feb 2014 #81

I don't think anyone of the accused hates a woman for using her sexuality to earn a living. Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #84

No one hates the women. Can you link to a post that actually says that? cui bono Feb 2014 #92

Post removed Post removed Feb 2014 #90

I know a lot about women's issues, Cleita Feb 2014 #94

Well you don't know how to not be presumptuous. cui bono Feb 2014 #96

It's always us hating women, KitSileya Feb 2014 #100

I hope she answers my question of why she so adamantly argues that there is no objectification. cui bono Feb 2014 #102

It's the well-known republican attitude of "I've got mine, FU" KitSileya Feb 2014 #104

+1 Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #170

+1 R B Garr Feb 2014 #176

And furthermore, can I help it if I am 5'11" and slender? blueamy66 Feb 2014 #110

Trash Katashi_itto Feb 2014 #43

So trashy. Cleita Feb 2014 #45

Remember always, divide and conquer 7wo7rees Feb 2014 #62

Have you seen what happens even on DU when women "step up to the plate"? Recursion Feb 2014 #80

thank you, Recursion for your voice. n/t Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #169

Women can't change the entire fashion industry by not buying all that clothing. cui bono Feb 2014 #88

I have Dorian Gray Feb 2014 #108

Amen. blueamy66 Feb 2014 #111

Good post. Bobbie Jo Feb 2014 #113

there already is a use of normal sized models treestar Feb 2014 #119

I would never be able JustAnotherGen Feb 2014 #120

hypocrites.... blueamy66 Feb 2014 #128

You said it! JustAnotherGen Feb 2014 #130

So the burden is always on the discrimination TARGETS not the perpetrators? alp227 Feb 2014 #135

I don't blame women for this one. MicaelS Feb 2014 #138

A Lot of Women Objectify Men Dirty Socialist Feb 2014 #141

This sound bad, if you insert another group and another problem it shuts that thing right down. bravenak Feb 2014 #151

Awesome!!! Sheldon Cooper Feb 2014 #160

^^^^^^^^^^^THANK YOU^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #168

Yes! this ^^^^ nt laundry_queen Feb 2014 #173

Terrible op. bravenak Feb 2014 #174

yeah, cuz baseball is our best sport. n/t librechik Feb 2014 #162

What about men who insult me, an adult female, to my face? Manifestor_of_Light Feb 2014 #166

Girls can't do math, is the reason I'm just finding out at 32 years old, that i CAN do math. bravenak Feb 2014 #175

There are lots of really shitty math teachers. Manifestor_of_Light Feb 2014 #177