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catbyte

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183. Thank you, JAG. My mom lived through Jim Crow laws in northern Michigan when she was
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 03:44 PM
Feb 2014

growing up and I saw it to a much lesser extent, but discrimination was there nevertheless. Local businesses had to allow "Injuns" into them after the 1964 Civil Rights Act was passed. I was 9 years old then & don't remember not being able to go to places, but I have seen pictures of signs prohibiting Native Americans from entering public places & my mom certainly remembered. It seems no matter where you are, the minority population--whatever it happens to be--is unfortunately discriminated against by the White population. It's not opinion, sadly it's a fact.

I will just say ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2014 #1
I'm not sure I follow (nt) shaayecanaan Feb 2014 #2
Very diplomatic. Warpy Feb 2014 #3
Great post. ZombieHorde Feb 2014 #6
The police hardly ever do random breath tests in Chinese suburbs... shaayecanaan Feb 2014 #10
i would say it's more due to numbers of drunk driving related traffic accidents in the area JI7 Feb 2014 #12
Bingo... shaayecanaan Feb 2014 #18
bad analogy , if a chinese person was in an area they were testing for drunk drivers JI7 Feb 2014 #22
no, because they assume white people have more money Gormy Cuss Feb 2014 #128
This would be Chinese priviledge: A police officer witnesses driving that is consistent with okaawhatever Feb 2014 #19
Arab privilege? shaayecanaan Feb 2014 #24
you don't seem to understand the concept and are arguing republican talking points JI7 Feb 2014 #25
I don't think that you ever understood the concept... shaayecanaan Feb 2014 #91
dlc has nothing to do with white privilege, the history of this country goes back hudreds of years JI7 Feb 2014 #96
The NBA situation wouldn't necessarily be considered tall privilege because height is a factor in okaawhatever Feb 2014 #27
Lone Star Gas wanted employees that were at least six feet tall. Downwinder Feb 2014 #45
*****BINGO!!!***** uponit7771 Feb 2014 #50
Why do you think the Chinese hardly drink? nt okaawhatever Feb 2014 #20
I've known quite a few prodigious Chinese drinkers Warpy Feb 2014 #29
One time... CSStrowbridge Feb 2014 #15
But another time Token Republican Feb 2014 #58
And then you and your friends showered sufrommich Feb 2014 #60
Yup Token Republican Feb 2014 #69
"not being on welfare was completely outside the sufrommich Feb 2014 #72
I think that was their point, that that sort of racism was shocking and not ok. uppityperson Feb 2014 #74
Yes, thank you Token Republican Feb 2014 #78
The white foster kid would have been handed the same set of options Gormy Cuss Feb 2014 #129
What proportion of the US ruling class originally made their family fortunes directly or indirectly El_Johns Feb 2014 #104
Guess you were lucky. Separation Feb 2014 #171
I always love the part about African governments being corrupt malaise Feb 2014 #31
Don't forget who they learned it from malaise! JustAnotherGen Feb 2014 #36
And neo-colonialism is worse malaise Feb 2014 #38
I think you know JustAnotherGen Feb 2014 #43
You know the really sad truth is that there are lots of decent human beings in many of the malaise Feb 2014 #49
Thank you for this post. nt redqueen Feb 2014 #63
Subtle. n/t defacto7 Feb 2014 #8
I think the poorest county in the US is in South Dakota progressoid Feb 2014 #4
4 of the 5 poorest are in SD Bluenorthwest Feb 2014 #46
The US government considers you white. Heidi Feb 2014 #5
Very charitable of them (nt) shaayecanaan Feb 2014 #7
I see what you did there..... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #9
Well it's true JustAnotherGen Feb 2014 #37
It does not matter how our Government defines white or any other race as wocaonimabi Feb 2014 #35
Very insightful Thank you for putting this together. gtar100 Feb 2014 #11
More so than that... shaayecanaan Feb 2014 #16
I appreciate your thorough academic approach. defacto7 Feb 2014 #13
"We're different" shaayecanaan Feb 2014 #21
Have you spent time JustAnotherGen Feb 2014 #39
Thank you for sharing your experience and family history with us. It's very moving. myrna minx Feb 2014 #52
I swear I haven't been able to find it in the archives yet, but... Blue_Tires Feb 2014 #163
I'd love to see that JustAnotherGen Feb 2014 #172
Found it...Not quite the same as I remembered it Blue_Tires Feb 2014 #173
It's the way of thinking JustAnotherGen Feb 2014 #174
You know, I remember that post. M0rpheus Feb 2014 #175
You seem to think I disagree with your statement defacto7 Feb 2014 #122
Excellent post. Racism is indeed different in different cultures ... kwassa Feb 2014 #157
There is NOTHING "academic" about the OP's analysis... Blue_Tires Feb 2014 #162
Was I too subtle? defacto7 Feb 2014 #164
You have no idea what you are talking about trublu992 Feb 2014 #14
Those who have the money control the institutions (nt) shaayecanaan Feb 2014 #17
so indian americans are controlling the institutions ? JI7 Feb 2014 #30
the ruling class controls the institutions (nt) shaayecanaan Feb 2014 #32
in your op you mentioned that indian americans make the most money JI7 Feb 2014 #33
I was not asserting that the ruling class consists entirely shaayecanaan Feb 2014 #79
what is absurd is you claiming no racism and then in the thread excusing racism JI7 Feb 2014 #97
I would note hfojvt Feb 2014 #62
exactly, WHY do certain groups tendto have more than others, it ignores this question JI7 Feb 2014 #23
Exactly! The Indian American reasoning is job and credit extended to them uponit7771 Feb 2014 #51
Climate, largely... shaayecanaan Feb 2014 #83
Oh boy. geardaddy Feb 2014 #201
Thank you. I said pretty much the same thing down thread. Number23 Feb 2014 #93
your arguments are pretty much "how can there be global warming, it's cold and snowing" JI7 Feb 2014 #26
As someone who grew up in America... BaronChocula Feb 2014 #28
People think Blacks are sneaky... shaayecanaan Feb 2014 #81
You say that your family made its vast fortune in the gem trade in Africa. Out of curiosity, Tanuki Feb 2014 #34
All fair questions JustAnotherGen Feb 2014 #42
Very fair question for 'something of a Marxist' wealthy from trading stones in Africa Bluenorthwest Feb 2014 #48
+1 redqueen Feb 2014 #65
Exactly, could you even imagine a marxist growing up in a wealthy family. hughee99 Feb 2014 #73
would a marxist excuse racism and use "they have more money" as justification for discrimination ? JI7 Feb 2014 #98
Would a ruling class flunky wrongly accuse people of racism? shaayecanaan Feb 2014 #101
you have excused it and made lame comparisons to tall basketball players, chinese who don't drink JI7 Feb 2014 #102
To be honest, I probably would walk the tall comment back if I could... shaayecanaan Feb 2014 #110
*the term* "white privilege" doesn't destroy class consciousness, but *white privilege* does fishwax Feb 2014 #40
It didnt matter... shaayecanaan Feb 2014 #82
Of course it mattered. African Americans were systematically excluded from much of labor's gains fishwax Feb 2014 #135
You don't like the term "White Privilege" WestIndianArchie Feb 2014 #41
Maybe you should start reading this shaayecanaan Feb 2014 #100
Just because you do not like the term does not mean it does not exist. Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #44
Of course white privilege exists and every attempt sufrommich Feb 2014 #47
Dishonest title, it is not that you dislike the term, it is that you deny the thing exists. Bluenorthwest Feb 2014 #53
White privilege is actually a very accurate description of the situation it describes. Squinch Feb 2014 #54
OK so let's see gollygee Feb 2014 #55
I think that's it in a nutshell. sufrommich Feb 2014 #56
+1 redqueen Feb 2014 #67
Complete bullshit... shaayecanaan Feb 2014 #86
I actually have LESS privilege than whites as a well off black man. I STILL have to answer to the... uponit7771 Feb 2014 #185
Spot on. geardaddy Feb 2014 #202
There's a problem with your post... 1awake Feb 2014 #57
Apparently I am a racist shaayecanaan Feb 2014 #99
Here's the best personal example I can think of to sum up "white privilege". Spider Jerusalem Feb 2014 #59
It's ALWAYS been about class warfare. Le Taz Hot Feb 2014 #61
Largely agree - TBF Feb 2014 #66
I agree that we can walk and chew gum at the same time. Le Taz Hot Feb 2014 #68
I can't argue with that - TBF Feb 2014 #71
Great post Boom Sound 416 Feb 2014 #64
Using misguided terms like "white privilege" is foolish. gulliver Feb 2014 #70
"White privilege" is not a "sneaky" term. It quite openly states what it is saying. Squinch Feb 2014 #77
In a word Boom Sound 416 Feb 2014 #149
I think a lot of people don't get the Marxism. kjones Feb 2014 #75
Thank you shaayecanaan Feb 2014 #80
Well, that's probably a little much. kjones Feb 2014 #85
"Marxism is all about the class, material conditions and production" Starry Messenger Feb 2014 #166
Maybe it's not stated right. kjones Feb 2014 #168
"Writings on the U.S. Civil War" Starry Messenger Feb 2014 #170
None of them really seem to discuss racism itself. kjones Feb 2014 #176
"Labor in the white skin can never free itself as long as labor in the black skin is branded.” Starry Messenger Feb 2014 #191
I experience White Privilege because I look white. Iggo Feb 2014 #76
Maybe this guy says it better shaayecanaan Feb 2014 #84
Thanks for that. westerebus Feb 2014 #90
Of course there's white privilege steve2470 Feb 2014 #87
I am not denying that racism exists... shaayecanaan Feb 2014 #88
Caucasians founded the USA steve2470 Feb 2014 #89
LOL- the circular reasoning bit in order to deny reality. you have out the cart - "material bettyellen Feb 2014 #94
"Barack Obama, for example, did not come from the same social class as "traditional" African America Number23 Feb 2014 #92
I'm not sure why you posted this response, to be honest... shaayecanaan Feb 2014 #95
In the history of America when talking about white privilege, it's race not class. bravenak Feb 2014 #103
and it's often non wealthy whites who support these things JI7 Feb 2014 #105
It's wealthy whites who are pushing, demagoging and enacting them. El_Johns Feb 2014 #107
yes, like koch brothers, but they get support from whites including many who aren't wealthy JI7 Feb 2014 #108
They do, from some, but poorer people are more liable to 1) vote less and 2) vote democratic than El_Johns Feb 2014 #112
the top would then include middle class people who often vote for 1 percent over 99 JI7 Feb 2014 #114
Yes. that's my point. The political base for racist dogwhistles is not "white trash," it's the El_Johns Feb 2014 #117
And poor whites that support them and vote in those candidates to office who will do things bravenak Feb 2014 #111
Not the case. El_Johns Feb 2014 #116
Of course they do. bravenak Feb 2014 #109
Yes, those damn Republicans and their appeal to class struggle shaayecanaan Feb 2014 #137
they appeal to their racism , this is why it was after civil rights that many turned against social JI7 Feb 2014 #138
That's my girl... Number23 Feb 2014 #115
It's the same damn rec list everytime! bravenak Feb 2014 #121
I'm just going to laugh, and move on. Me too. I find myself doing that more and more these days Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #124
I'm over it. bravenak Feb 2014 #133
+10000 JustAnotherGen Feb 2014 #179
So in other words... shaayecanaan Feb 2014 #118
Yep. bravenak Feb 2014 #119
You do realise shaayecanaan Feb 2014 #120
Why should the black woman give up her bently for social change? bravenak Feb 2014 #123
Short answer: because she has far more money than she could ever possibly need... shaayecanaan Feb 2014 #130
How much money do I make? bravenak Feb 2014 #132
Us wealthy non-whites call that the "passenger mentality"... shaayecanaan Feb 2014 #140
you are posting a lot of racist shit JI7 Feb 2014 #142
Post removed Post removed Feb 2014 #145
hmmmm.... El_Johns Feb 2014 #148
Slave narratives are a set of writings from the WPA. bravenak Feb 2014 #152
Thank you JustAnotherGen Feb 2014 #180
you do realize upper income blacks are regularly stopped by police and seen as suspicious at stores JI7 Feb 2014 #125
(a) what an interesting example and (b) you seem completely unaware of spooky3 Feb 2014 #155
lol You're "not sure" why I posted a response saying I "wasn't sure" why you posted this nonsensical Number23 Feb 2014 #106
+1 bravenak Feb 2014 #113
+1000 NOLALady Feb 2014 #134
You noticed the OP suddenly has nothing to say, huh? Number23 Feb 2014 #136
THIS!!! And thank you. I cannot believe this got 27 recs. Sounds like Limbaugh or O Keefe Lite. bettyellen Feb 2014 #141
it is, i wonder if people actually read it , i guess people just saw him claim to be a marxist JI7 Feb 2014 #143
I think it'ss knee jerk agreement with a dislike of the term- they'd be embarrassed if they read on bettyellen Feb 2014 #151
I made largely the same post about a week ago... shaayecanaan Feb 2014 #144
people have posted actual facts and numbers that there is racism and you want to deny it JI7 Feb 2014 #147
That post has nothing to do with mine. And certainly nothing to do with your naive Number23 Feb 2014 #153
I dropped the rope on this thread yesterday JustAnotherGen Feb 2014 #178
Thanks Number23 Feb 2014 #186
Two days later JustAnotherGen Feb 2014 #199
Oh good grief. Number23 Feb 2014 #204
+1, and pls see my post #155 spooky3 Feb 2014 #156
Awesome response. geardaddy Feb 2014 #203
a very interesting perspective. But I do think the African-American experience is somewhat different Douglas Carpenter Feb 2014 #126
That may be true. AverageJoe90 Feb 2014 #160
Thank you for such an in depth post about Pretzel_Warrior Feb 2014 #127
As you can see from the responses ... Bok_Tukalo Feb 2014 #131
Yeah... shaayecanaan Feb 2014 #150
Wow. Absolutely astonishing how proudly clueless you are Number23 Feb 2014 #154
+1000 JustAnotherGen Feb 2014 #181
You just proved my point. bravenak Feb 2014 #184
Good post Harmony Blue Feb 2014 #139
I think a lot of bourgeois liberals misunderstand that term... shaayecanaan Feb 2014 #146
Not so sure about "elitism", to be honest. AverageJoe90 Feb 2014 #159
A very interesting perspective here. AverageJoe90 Feb 2014 #158
Two comments ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2014 #187
Two responses. AverageJoe90 Feb 2014 #188
"Used to believe" ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2014 #189
..... AverageJoe90 Feb 2014 #190
So ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2014 #192
Not all racism is systemic, though. AverageJoe90 Feb 2014 #194
There is no such animal as "Interpersonal racism" ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2014 #195
A few decent points, but you're kind of all over the place... Blue_Tires Feb 2014 #161
Be careful Blue JustAnotherGen Feb 2014 #169
Confused about white privilege? Chakab Feb 2014 #165
What a hot mess. Starry Messenger Feb 2014 #167
The OP's last paragraph doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Obama didn't grow up with his father catbyte Feb 2014 #177
Thank you thank you thank you JustAnotherGen Feb 2014 #182
Thank you, JAG. My mom lived through Jim Crow laws in northern Michigan when she was catbyte Feb 2014 #183
i'm having a hard time respecting this post Quayblue Feb 2014 #193
Your insight into the racial politics of America is highly flawed. kwassa Feb 2014 #196
Access to highly paid JustAnotherGen Feb 2014 #197
I'd be interested to hear you expand on the "very different reasons" whites and blacks are poor. nt Romulox Feb 2014 #200
I think there is a possible difference here between the USA and other countries LeftishBrit Feb 2014 #198
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