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In reply to the discussion: "It's ridiculous to talk about freedom in a society dominated by huge corporations ..." [View all]Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)27. The same employees the large corporations conspire against in order to hold down their wages?
That's amusingly naive at best.
http://pando.com/2014/01/23/the-techtopus-how-silicon-valleys-most-celebrated-ceos-conspired-to-drive-down-100000-tech-engineers-wages/
In early 2005, as demand for Silicon Valley engineers began booming, Apples Steve Jobs sealed a secret and illegal pact with Googles Eric Schmidt to artificially push their workers wages lower by agreeing not to recruit each others employees, sharing wage scale information, and punishing violators. On February 27, 2005, Bill Campbell, a member of Apples board of directors and senior advisor to Google, emailed Jobs to confirm that Eric Schmidt got directly involved and firmly stopped all efforts to recruit anyone from Apple.
Later that year, Schmidt instructed his Sr VP for Business Operation Shona Brown to keep the pact a secret and only share information verbally, since I dont want to create a paper trail over which we can be sued later?
These secret conversations and agreements between some of the biggest names in Silicon Valley were first exposed in a Department of Justice antitrust investigation launched by the Obama Administration in 2010. That DOJ suit became the basis of a class action lawsuit filed on behalf of over 100,000 tech employees whose wages were artificially lowered an estimated $9 billion effectively stolen by the high-flying companies from their workers to pad company earnings in the second half of the 2000s. Last week, the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals denied attempts by Apple, Google, Intel, and Adobe to have the lawsuit tossed, and gave final approval for the class action suit to go forward. A jury trial date has been set for May 27 in San Jose, before US District Court judge Lucy Koh, who presided over the Samsung-Apple patent suit.
In a related but separate investigation and ongoing suit, eBay and its former CEO Meg Whitman, now CEO of HP, are being sued by both the federal government and the state of California for arranging a similar, secret wage-theft agreement with Intuit (and possibly Google as well) during the same period.
Later that year, Schmidt instructed his Sr VP for Business Operation Shona Brown to keep the pact a secret and only share information verbally, since I dont want to create a paper trail over which we can be sued later?
These secret conversations and agreements between some of the biggest names in Silicon Valley were first exposed in a Department of Justice antitrust investigation launched by the Obama Administration in 2010. That DOJ suit became the basis of a class action lawsuit filed on behalf of over 100,000 tech employees whose wages were artificially lowered an estimated $9 billion effectively stolen by the high-flying companies from their workers to pad company earnings in the second half of the 2000s. Last week, the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals denied attempts by Apple, Google, Intel, and Adobe to have the lawsuit tossed, and gave final approval for the class action suit to go forward. A jury trial date has been set for May 27 in San Jose, before US District Court judge Lucy Koh, who presided over the Samsung-Apple patent suit.
In a related but separate investigation and ongoing suit, eBay and its former CEO Meg Whitman, now CEO of HP, are being sued by both the federal government and the state of California for arranging a similar, secret wage-theft agreement with Intuit (and possibly Google as well) during the same period.
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"It's ridiculous to talk about freedom in a society dominated by huge corporations ..." [View all]
Scuba
Feb 2014
OP
"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his job depends on not understanding it."
Egalitarian Thug
Feb 2014
#5
No, no. They are good and just and will lead us into the the Next Age of Humanity.
Egalitarian Thug
Feb 2014
#4
If everyone had a guaranteed income first, they could choose freely to work for a corp, or not.
reformist2
Feb 2014
#7
getting "wealthy" is your straw man. Chomsky has no point. We do have a great amount
KittyWampus
Feb 2014
#21
Talking about corporations as 'authoritarian' is hardly Libertarian stupidity
Enthusiast
Feb 2014
#26
And now we've stretched the definition of libertarian to include "Doesn't like corporations."
JoeyT
Feb 2014
#32
But what small businesses do not realize is that what keeps them going -- the oil and other
JDPriestly
Feb 2014
#16
I am pretty sure most small business owners understand the concept of infrastructure.
KittyWampus
Feb 2014
#23
Still, you should read the Palast book, Vulture's Picnic if you haven't already.
JDPriestly
Feb 2014
#25
You can't possibly be so dense that you think he's talking about small mom & pops.
Marr
Feb 2014
#36
Yes, employees "taking orders" from their bosses is, indeed, effectively Stalinism.
Nye Bevan
Feb 2014
#17
The same employees the large corporations conspire against in order to hold down their wages?
Fumesucker
Feb 2014
#27