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wercal

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5. I don't think they can go into your bank account or 401k

Mon Feb 24, 2014, 06:50 PM

Feb 2014

The entire reason this was upheld by the SCOTUS was the determination that the fine is a 'tax'.

So, I assume it will be collected just like any other past due tax.

That should include the fine being withheld from any tax refund check.

I don't think it will be taken out of 'any sort of government check'. But I do have questions.

- Will somebody in arrears be eligible for federal student aid?

- Will the fine be used to reduce a tax refund, if that refund is EIC?

- What stops somebody from manipulating their W-4 to never get a refund, and never pay the fine?

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So, when the A.C.A. fines kick in... [View all] warrprayer Feb 2014 OP

Not an expert yeoman6987 Feb 2014 #1

somehow to me warrprayer Feb 2014 #4

what else happened in between 08 and 12? the 2010 election when libs and dems sat out leftyohiolib Feb 2014 #65

people need to be motivated to vote Skittles Feb 2014 #67

what more motivation do they need? i guess when the food dries up? leftyohiolib Feb 2014 #68

politicans doing what they were voted in to do would be a start Skittles Feb 2014 #92

you vote dem to keep republicans from positions of power that should be all you need to keep inmind leftyohiolib Feb 2014 #120

people like me? Skittles Feb 2014 #121

like you, like me, you vote for them when u can otherwise you vote against leftyohiolib Feb 2014 #125

Myth zipplewrath Feb 2014 #77

90.6m voted of 235.8m voting-aged voters that's 37% split in half is 18% leftyohiolib Feb 2014 #89

But your attribution of of the non-voting to liberals is false. JVS Feb 2014 #96

the numbers are right there you cant argue with them. dems sat it out and we. leftyohiolib Feb 2014 #114

You said "libs and dems" JVS Feb 2014 #119

I suppose you are also against "Vote By Mail" Bandit Feb 2014 #123

vote by mail would be excellent leftyohiolib Feb 2014 #126

GOP'ers didn't vote either zipplewrath Feb 2014 #132

gopers get mad they vote dems get mad they sulk and stay home (not all but enough) leftyohiolib Feb 2014 #135

that's not a myth, reality is only 18% of dems voted in 2010 leftyohiolib Feb 2014 #115

And the GOP lost voters too zipplewrath Feb 2014 #133

that's not true leftyohiolib Feb 2014 #136

the general populace didn't even know there was a midterm election in 2010. yodermon Feb 2014 #110

they knew the when the election was they just chose to sit it out. leftyohiolib Feb 2014 #116

not me personally, or even one individual.. yodermon Feb 2014 #124

then the population has only itself to blame for the failed unemployment extension, the anti-gay leftyohiolib Feb 2014 #128

So if you're the mature adult in the room DireStrike Feb 2014 #129

well look how well sitting out the election worked for everyone, did it help or hurt are you leftyohiolib Feb 2014 #130

Yes, mature adults would realize such things I agree -nt- DireStrike Feb 2014 #131

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2014 #122

I don't think they can go into your bank account or 401k wercal Feb 2014 #5

I can answer part of your question. warrprayer Feb 2014 #17

Does that include eic? wercal Feb 2014 #74

That is a different statute. Ms. Toad Feb 2014 #79

They sure as hell can go into your bank account. RebelOne Feb 2014 #59

Was that retro-actively getting a refund back because the kids were claimed twice? wercal Feb 2014 #75

So why do you keep calling it a fine? oneshooter Feb 2014 #72

Because the OP.called it a fine. wercal Feb 2014 #76

This sounds exactly like something Rushbo would say. eom PowerToThePeople Feb 2014 #78

The fine won't apply to you. LumosMaxima Feb 2014 #2

thanks for the info warrprayer Feb 2014 #6

I hear you. Hope things get better for us all soon. nt LumosMaxima Feb 2014 #13

I have a friend PasadenaTrudy Feb 2014 #45

Due to your income level you won't owe any fine/tax for not having insurance. n/t PoliticAverse Feb 2014 #3

My bad. Daughter was not fined, was told she would be. She misinformed me. Sorry. nt Mnemosyne Feb 2014 #7

O.K. now I'm getting two different stories. warrprayer Feb 2014 #8

I don't know what the poster from PA is referring to, but the Federal fine/tax doesn't apply PoliticAverse Feb 2014 #10

She worked last year. Pa didn't expand. She was shocked. Not huge fine, but big to her. Mnemosyne Feb 2014 #15

Have to ask her the fine, confused it with their charge. nt Mnemosyne Feb 2014 #26

very simple, she was not fined for Obamacare, period CreekDog Feb 2014 #101

Did your daughter earn warrprayer Feb 2014 #11

She was just a bit over. I don't understand why H&R took it out. nt Mnemosyne Feb 2014 #23

Either you or your daughter misunderstood what was going on. Ms. Toad Feb 2014 #82

If her income was under 133% of the federal poverty level, she was exempt Lex Feb 2014 #12

H&R Block did her taxes. I have no clue why they did it. nt Mnemosyne Feb 2014 #16

I had a nasty experience with H&R Block warrprayer Feb 2014 #20

considering NOBODY can be fined for tax year 2013 because fines don't kick in until 2014 CreekDog Feb 2014 #106

She needs to get the money back then Lex Feb 2014 #21

You're spoiling all their fun. yardwork Feb 2014 #39

It must be true because H&R Block Lex Feb 2014 #40

I heard it on the internet so it must be true. yardwork Feb 2014 #43

This is not a new poster Marrah_G Feb 2014 #118

How is that possible? Fines don't start missingthebigdog Feb 2014 #14

I have no clue, H&R did her taxes. nt Mnemosyne Feb 2014 #18

If they told her that she owes $200 for an ACA fine, then they are either lying or incompetent. yardwork Feb 2014 #30

I was wondering that too... Recursion Feb 2014 #109

let me put this plainly: your information is incorrect, and you are spreading incorrect information alcibiades_mystery Feb 2014 #70

too wordy, just say "I have no clue." CreekDog Feb 2014 #102

Interesting post, isn't it? yardwork Feb 2014 #22

the poster warrprayer Feb 2014 #28

the nice person has either been lied to by somebody or is making stuff up or is very confused. Warren Stupidity Feb 2014 #84

That's correct. n/t PoliticAverse Feb 2014 #29

Some one has been scammed. JoePhilly Feb 2014 #42

How is that possible? Maybe you should check with your daughter. Walk away Feb 2014 #47

She was not fined under the ACA. Ms. Toad Feb 2014 #81

somebody is confused. No fines this year. Warren Stupidity Feb 2014 #83

the fine doesn't apply to people with no income, let's not believe BS ok? CreekDog Feb 2014 #99

You are probably exempt from penalty. Lex Feb 2014 #9

what's the federal poverty level... wildbilln864 Feb 2014 #25

... handmade34 Feb 2014 #32

. Lex Feb 2014 #33

$11,670 PoliticAverse Feb 2014 #37

Ive already made it on my taxes so that I break even at the end of the year with withholding. frwrfpos Feb 2014 #19

... warrprayer Feb 2014 #24

Slight correction Ms. Toad Feb 2014 #87

I dont need fucking screening by a parasitic insurance company frwrfpos Feb 2014 #90

All I said was that when you trash something, at least do it honestly Ms. Toad Feb 2014 #91

screenings are not care. frwrfpos Feb 2014 #93

Vaccinations are preventative care. Ms. Toad Feb 2014 #94

many of those vaccinations are at birth for god sake frwrfpos Feb 2014 #95

The MMR vaccine does not last forever - Ms. Toad Feb 2014 #103

Also the maximum medical debt is NOT 6350 frwrfpos Feb 2014 #100

No idea what debt you are talking about. Ms. Toad Feb 2014 #112

maybe you'd prefer to get care without getting screened first CreekDog Feb 2014 #107

fining people hundreds then thousands. boy what PR coup that will be in '16 KG Feb 2014 #27

I hate to say this warrprayer Feb 2014 #31

u r not a lone! n/t wildbilln864 Feb 2014 #38

Medicare for all is a good solution. yardwork Feb 2014 #41

I will never vote warrprayer Feb 2014 #49

you what i'm losing faith in? even if the health plan were perfect, you'd still post bad things CreekDog Feb 2014 #108

It's not like there's any Republican fingerprints on the ACA Fumesucker Feb 2014 #34

he doesn't owe a fine Lex Feb 2014 #35

The IRS has almost no ability to collect the fine. Travis_0004 Feb 2014 #36

no one has ever gone to jail warrprayer Feb 2014 #51

The ACA expressly limits the ability of the IRS to enforce it Ms. Toad Feb 2014 #88

Ask for a waiver. bravenak Feb 2014 #44

thanks I think I have a handle on it now warrprayer Feb 2014 #50

I live in a red state too, it's depressing to be a part of the have nots. bravenak Feb 2014 #57

That's what the FEMA death camps are for. Nt JoePhilly Feb 2014 #46

You finally got some accurate answers down thread dsc Feb 2014 #48

Hopefully warrprayer Feb 2014 #52

that is our most likely pick up by far dsc Feb 2014 #54

Voting is our only option warrprayer Feb 2014 #58

If you are elgible for Medicaid, but State doesn't provide it gerogie2 Feb 2014 #53

thanks warrprayer Feb 2014 #55

That was a helpful link. Thanks. ..nt TeeYiYi Feb 2014 #64

I can't speak about whether you would owe the fine, DanTex Feb 2014 #56

what is this credit warrprayer Feb 2014 #60

LOL. Hang in there! Here's hoping things get better for your situation, DanTex Feb 2014 #62

It won't hurt you to apply... TeeYiYi Feb 2014 #61

This is the kind of thing I've wondered about. ladyVet Feb 2014 #63

Did you file for ACA?... TeeYiYi Feb 2014 #69

WHY dont u go here https://www.healthcare.gov/contact-us/ and ask them leftyohiolib Feb 2014 #66

Essentially, it's an addition to your taxes. backscatter712 Feb 2014 #71

This was my understanding. nt woo me with science Feb 2014 #111

You are exempt from the fine Yo_Mama Feb 2014 #73

Text in the ACA says 2naSalit Feb 2014 #80

Just sign up treestar Feb 2014 #85

Broadly speaking.... Jeff In Milwaukee Feb 2014 #86

This message was self-deleted by its author Romulox Feb 2014 #97

Obama already waved the mandate for corporation$$$. Just poor people have to pay the fine. Romulox Feb 2014 #97

afaik, the only enforcement mechanism is the irs can reduce any refund you'd otherwise get. unblock Feb 2014 #104

My son was in the same situation catrose Feb 2014 #105

You will owe no fine, but even if you did ... frazzled Feb 2014 #113

Why don't you sign up and say your projected income is $12000/yr? You wont get penalized stevenleser Feb 2014 #117

Anyone who qualifies for expanded Medicaid, but whose state did not do it, is NOT subject to the lostincalifornia Feb 2014 #127

I apologize for having bad information. Stopped paying attention after learned could not afford the Mnemosyne Feb 2014 #134

I know you aren't a troll warrprayer Feb 2014 #137

Thank you. Mnemosyne Feb 2014 #138