Not the Onion: Mormons Declare War on Masturbation

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118. I admit I spoke loosely...

After reading my post again I wasn't very clear on the comment about birth rate increasing due to Mormon policies. That was a flippant remark about post #60 who made a comment about "15 kids" which is not far from the truth. It's not a requirement, just a sign of the blessings of Elohim (god) for allowing souls to leave another existence to live on this planet. Many children means you are blessed. I would call that advertising for very large families and for polygamy which was very recently made legal in Utah. Before that, many lied.

The second remark comes strait from one who lives and works in the center of Mormonism, me. If you want proof of much of anything concerning secret LDS activities you'll find little outside of the first hand experiences of those who live it and work with Utah Mormons as well as those who have taken the sometimes difficult leap away from the organization. I have written too profusely on the subject here on DU in the past and really don't intend on repeating those comments. There are a couple of pretty good books about Mormon history and beliefs written by former Mormons or historians. One that comes to mind is Under the Banner of Heaven written by Jon Krakauer. As you can probably tell I have little use for the Mormon religion or its corporate and legal power base. The Mormon church is the ultimate example of the detrimental effects of allowing the separation of church and state to be bridged. The hierarchy has never hesitated in its history to lie, manipulate or just simply transform their doctrine to get their desired results.

There are many very good people among the general population of the LDS and there are many who are not so good at all. But all in all, my experience and opinion is that they are either following a lie and know it, are part of the clandestine political and corporate machine that most Mormons try to ignore, they are brainwashed or they are thoroughly deluded.