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BainsBane

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135. Why is it my responsibility to condemn it?

Tue Feb 25, 2014, 01:48 AM

Feb 2014

Did you condemn the person who called Redqueen a w. . .e? Did you condemn the insults against me as mentally ill, unhinged, and a b. . . h? Did you take responsibility for the deaths in the Ukraine? Why am I responsible for a comment I had no part in?

You knew that comment was made months ago, yet in this thread you falsely claim the person was insulted because she posted the SI thread. Yet you knew that wasn't true. Additionally, when Tuesday Afternoon addressed you directly, your comment to her was that I had not denounced the comment. It would appear you are far less interested in any of the parties involved or the actual content of the exchange than in using it as a club against other women on this site, whom for some reason you have decided are responsible for something they never said.

It appears to me that you are raising that comment as a means to deflect from the subject of the OP, as if the fact that person was insulted justifies widespread misogyny. It is difficult to see your exchange here as anything other than a rather clumsily executed pursuit of an agenda.

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It is not about the swimsuit issue it is about basic respect for women [View all] Bjorn Against Feb 2014 OP

Thank you. I appreciate this OP very much. yardwork Feb 2014 #1

Hi yardwork! myrna minx Feb 2014 #187

Thank you. TDale313 Feb 2014 #2

DU Rec Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #3

thank you. (nt) noamnety Feb 2014 #4

I urge you to recall that it was posted by a woman. Bonobo Feb 2014 #5

+1000. Odd this little fact keeps being overlooked or unmentioned quinnox Feb 2014 #7

... Kali Feb 2014 #86

It matters very much, because we keep having a few duers imply it was all the men's fault quinnox Feb 2014 #91

so if some asshole of any group does something that is offensive to a large number people, Kali Feb 2014 #100

No, it doesn't make it ok. But it does make those who are implying this is all the work of quinnox Feb 2014 #104

Carport? DURHAM D Feb 2014 #105

true, a carport doesn't even have 4 walls Kali Feb 2014 #117

and I always picture a basement ... lol ... Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #272

Men don't deserve a "cave" per se... maybe just a roof. Maybe. lumberjack_jeff Feb 2014 #275

It means all the men who have insisted that the views BainsBane Feb 2014 #169

"Asshole" My Good Babushka Feb 2014 #171

who am I disrespecting? Kali Feb 2014 #213

It sounds like you were calling the woman who posted the SI pics an "asshole" ConservativeDemocrat Feb 2014 #326

Are you going to claim you haven't posted in defense of objectification? BainsBane Feb 2014 #168

I believe the point of the OP was whopis01 Feb 2014 #175

On phone so couldn't check all links but Bonobo Feb 2014 #92

I wasn't posting any offending photo. Kali Feb 2014 #103

Oh I see... Bonobo Feb 2014 #125

the point Kali Feb 2014 #134

I don't recall 1/100th of this amount of disdain for the polly7 Feb 2014 #240

heh Kali Feb 2014 #247

Odd there wasn't day after day of outraged posts over those pictures polly7 Feb 2014 #250

well I see you are taking the opportunity to do so now Kali Feb 2014 #253

Only because I'm sick and tired of seeing one person painted as polly7 Feb 2014 #254

You are very committed to taking things out of context R B Garr Feb 2014 #248

And you are very committed to talking shit about people and things you polly7 Feb 2014 #251

The posts leading back to your post are about a female posting the SI pictures R B Garr Feb 2014 #258

I'm not 'bashing' anyone. polly7 Feb 2014 #260

I wouldn't trust your interpretations of double standards and hypocrisy R B Garr Feb 2014 #270

I suggest you check out a mirror. polly7 Feb 2014 #271

Now you're equating FEMEN with Sports Illustrated Swimsuit addition pictures? R B Garr Feb 2014 #280

No. polly7 Feb 2014 #281

No. You are taking things out of context deliberately to push your own agenda. R B Garr Feb 2014 #295

LOL. polly7 Feb 2014 #298

Context, polly. Get some. This is your little corner of Fox News/Benghazi R B Garr Feb 2014 #327

I did point out the context. polly7 Feb 2014 #330

The two are not equal, polly. You are very transparent. Have you even read this OP? R B Garr Feb 2014 #332

Oh, you're so right. They're definitely not equal. polly7 Feb 2014 #337

This is exactly how you wanted this to go. Now you're back to bashing posters R B Garr Feb 2014 #340

I have no interest in getting anyone's posts hidden. polly7 Feb 2014 #342

I actually agree with you here... one_voice Feb 2014 #364

Thank you! polly7 Feb 2014 #365

Thanks for agreeing they aren't equal. We disagree as to the reasons why they don't equate. R B Garr Feb 2014 #473

And here you go again. polly7 Feb 2014 #487

Who are you, the DU Hall Monitor? RiffRandell Feb 2014 #422

Gee, the very first thread I opened in the Men's Group, there you were R B Garr Feb 2014 #424

She didn't 'mock' anyone, so shove your boring, repetitious bs. polly7 Feb 2014 #490

That's all it ever was pintobean Feb 2014 #301

I take it from your comment you didn't even read the OP R B Garr Feb 2014 #329

We're pretty far removed from the OP pintobean Feb 2014 #333

"We"? Nice try. If you follow the posts back, "we" started discussing polly bashing seabeyond R B Garr Feb 2014 #338

'Bashing seabeyond'. polly7 Feb 2014 #341

You're just spamming now. Riff solicited insults in a recent thread, R B Garr Feb 2014 #345

Blah, blah ........ zzzzz. nt. polly7 Feb 2014 #346

Exactly. Despite the fact the guys threw her under the bus BainsBane Feb 2014 #368

who "threw her under the bus"? Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #429

You did, in the thread to which I responded this morning BainsBane Feb 2014 #440

Uh huh. Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #445

I could care less about her relationship with you BainsBane Feb 2014 #451

I think you're seriously overthinking DU, honestly. Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #452

Just to reiterate... opiate69 Feb 2014 #461

Let's reiterate BainsBane Feb 2014 #464

I hardly consider them verifying a woman made the post "throwing me under the bus" RiffRandell Feb 2014 #447

!! opiate69 Feb 2014 #449

Thank you so much. RiffRandell Feb 2014 #503

That's a great game. Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #450

It is a reflection of the views of hundreds of members of this site BainsBane Feb 2014 #455

Well, then. I guess we can surmise that the community here also opiate69 Feb 2014 #458

Wow... opiate69 Feb 2014 #448

I must have missed the posts attacking her for posting the cover BainsBane Feb 2014 #367

If you think this is about disdain for one member BainsBane Feb 2014 #370

I don't know what world you live in if you think polly7 Feb 2014 #372

You mean the way you treat women? BainsBane Feb 2014 #377

Sorry, I got tired of reading your long screeds a while ago. polly7 Feb 2014 #378

It's the same ole, same ole. pintobean Feb 2014 #390

I don't think this situation will EVER be resolved to some peoples' satisfaction. Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #462

LOL! polly7 Feb 2014 #489

It wasn't ABOUT the pictures themselves....it is just the reason it occurred... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #153

But does it really matter Dorian Gray Feb 2014 #180

It is like a real legend now. the facts don't matter, just the greater truth it supposedly arely staircase Feb 2014 #196

well then why don't we talk about how it was posted by a woman but almost constantly defended by men CreekDog Feb 2014 #227

And she was compared to a dog for posting it. Jetboy Feb 2014 #9

My how the stories get more and more distorted with each retelling BainsBane Feb 2014 #25

thank you, Baines. Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #34

Hey, rrneck Feb 2014 #35

It is wrong to compare a woman to a dog. How did the people in that thread not understand Jetboy Feb 2014 #39

So you did see the comment? BainsBane Feb 2014 #42

I read the entire thread and it was horrific the way she was treated. Jetboy Feb 2014 #45

you are very sadly mistaken if you think I have not been condemned for that comment. Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #57

The poster below is specifically not condemning it for whatever reason. n/t Jetboy Feb 2014 #69

good lord. never mind. Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #71

Why is it my responsibility to condemn it? BainsBane Feb 2014 #135

I was simply pointing that fact out. Jetboy Feb 2014 #141

In that case BainsBane Feb 2014 #163

I did not read the thread BainsBane Feb 2014 #62

Can you at least admit it created a hostile environment for women? RiffRandell Feb 2014 #426

For women? BainsBane Feb 2014 #436

Only one woman, with only one account. RiffRandell Feb 2014 #439

What hypocrisy is that? BainsBane Feb 2014 #441

I was on the jury for that very post. sheshe2 Feb 2014 #99

Perhaps, Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #268

The flip side of the white knight? pintobean Feb 2014 #277

possibly ... I am not well versed enough or knowledgeable about all the Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #283

Could you give specific examples? polly7 Feb 2014 #286

I was not talking to you and, I asked no questions of you. In Fact, I was ANSWERING a question Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #292

Yeah, I pretty much thought it was just blowing smoke. No worries. polly7 Feb 2014 #293

thank you, pintobean. It was nice talking to you. I am sorry our subthread was derailed. Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #303

You can't just go around insulting other women here without expecting to get asked polly7 Feb 2014 #305

I wasn't insulting anyone. I have asked and answered and I am done here. You have a problem with me? Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #309

Yes, you WERE. polly7 Feb 2014 #311

There was a long thread about it last week. pintobean Feb 2014 #314

Yes, but that term is usually in reference to men. Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #468

interesting how few can see that Kali Feb 2014 #339

Sorry for the confussion...I was talking about this post sheshe2 Feb 2014 #465

Whoa! I didn't make that connection about a female dog or that slur at all. R B Garr Feb 2014 #469

+1 one_voice Feb 2014 #302

-1 Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #304

+1 In_The_Wind Feb 2014 #353

-1 Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #418

+10000000000000000000000000 nt. polly7 Feb 2014 #420

Ditto! In_The_Wind Feb 2014 #427

It's funny how that keeps being brought up by sufrommich Feb 2014 #184

The story becomes rrneck Feb 2014 #41

The poster said something to the effect that they had a dog pictured in their Jetboy Feb 2014 #44

Nah. rrneck Feb 2014 #46

I don't even know how to dig for it but that was it to the best of my recollection. n/t Jetboy Feb 2014 #47

It's cool. rrneck Feb 2014 #49

Yes, and more about being a good little lap dog wanted to be petted. Jetboy Feb 2014 #50

good lord. Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #54

I didn't pay attention to who posted it but since you are the one you can feel free Jetboy Feb 2014 #63

TA, it's because it has nothing to do with you BainsBane Feb 2014 #130

I am trying to not take it personally and, to leave personalities out of all this... Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #273

It's hardly a mortal sin. rrneck Feb 2014 #75

I didn't know that happened so long ago. I just can't fathom how that flew but Jetboy Feb 2014 #79

Because this is a political message board. rrneck Feb 2014 #102

And bless it's existence! Jetboy Feb 2014 #112

I try to set my sights a little higher. rrneck Feb 2014 #113

What I love aoubt DU is that your worst enemy on one issue is your best friend Jetboy Feb 2014 #120

Stick around. rrneck Feb 2014 #123

LOL, this is great, especially for the intended poster R B Garr Feb 2014 #84

You pretty much covered it. RC Feb 2014 #129

Ideology is a consumer product. rrneck Feb 2014 #142

And there you are BainsBane Feb 2014 #282

Well, lets see if we can find a crouton in this word salad... rrneck Feb 2014 #312

Why don't you tell us what Skinner meant? BainsBane Feb 2014 #324

And in stampedes the Gish at a full gallop. rrneck Feb 2014 #343

Here you go--- msanthrope Feb 2014 #230

I take it Riff is a personal, in real life, friend of yours. Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #58

Never had a single exchange with her that I recall but that doesn't matter. Jetboy Feb 2014 #72

I don't know what your specific issue is with me Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #77

I am sorry as I wasn't doing it to offend you. I won't mention it again. n/t Jetboy Feb 2014 #81

Have you not been here since DU2 made the change over to DU3? Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #85

No I don't remember the change. What is different about DU now? n/t Jetboy Feb 2014 #87

Jetboy, This is no longer a moderated site. There is jury system in place and Hosts determine if Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #89

That's interesting. Thanks for the information. I really enjoy DU but normally Jetboy Feb 2014 #95

The worst thing? BainsBane Feb 2014 #128

I believe in treating all people with respect and do my best to live by the Jetboy Feb 2014 #136

If you have't been around much BainsBane Feb 2014 #139

Anyone can make a mistake but only a quality person can own up to it. Jetboy Feb 2014 #146

I urge you to recall all the posts you made which were dismissive of women's concerns Bjorn Against Feb 2014 #10

Exactly right. TDale313 Feb 2014 #18

Actually the way I responded was to agree Bonobo Feb 2014 #51

I have seen enough of your posting history to know how dismissive you have been of women Bjorn Against Feb 2014 #55

Bjorn, think whatever you like Bonobo Feb 2014 #67

The Noble Journey of *The White Knight* Bjorn you mean - RBStevens Feb 2014 #97

Yes the pattern betsuni Feb 2014 #144

Interesting comment. nt Democracyinkind Feb 2014 #183

That explains a lot. n/t demmiblue Feb 2014 #189

See? Just like you said. This has nothing to do with bikinis. lumberjack_jeff Feb 2014 #259

You're right. It's not about the swimsuit issue. lumberjack_jeff Feb 2014 #256

And that you actually have to click on the thread to see the stuff that so offends you. Comrade Grumpy Feb 2014 #11

Ah, but to these extremists, just like religious right fundies, a women showing quinnox Feb 2014 #13

And just who exactly are those extremist religious-right-fundie-like folk RBStevens Feb 2014 #106

Right. There just isn't the slightest difference between cheesecake stuck on your eridani Feb 2014 #170

Agree, we have fanatics on DU that no one wishes to acknowledge Katashi_itto Feb 2014 #179

I feel badly for the sub-literacy of idiots and dolts who are unable to make the distinction... LanternWaste Feb 2014 #323

oh, right, we wouldn't want to add melodrama to any shallow premises, here, now, would we? Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #431

I didn't know that. NaturalHigh Feb 2014 #12

you wouldn't, too many duers glossing over it quinnox Feb 2014 #15

"Doesn't fit their agenda." NaturalHigh Feb 2014 #182

Haha. Thanks. 840high Feb 2014 #31

So? I don't know what motivated her. But she is just one woman who apparently doesn't care. pnwmom Feb 2014 #52

Yeah and Clarence Thomas says a lot of things treestar Feb 2014 #166

once again, Bonobo entirely misses the point Pretzel_Warrior Feb 2014 #249

it is about not behaving like internet adolescents. Warren Stupidity Feb 2014 #6

Thank you Tumbulu Feb 2014 #8

I'm not sure I understand. rrneck Feb 2014 #14

Yeah, and you can trash this one, Einstein... MrMickeysMom Feb 2014 #16

But I don't find it or upsetting rrneck Feb 2014 #21

Yes, it is quite "cut" MrMickeysMom Feb 2014 #23

"Cut". I get it. Very good. nt rrneck Feb 2014 #26

just out of curiosity, what kind pf post would make you.... BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2014 #80

Birthday posts. rrneck Feb 2014 #94

ok. so now, more thought experiment here. .... BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2014 #98

Sure. rrneck Feb 2014 #107

but say you could not get away from the conversations, and that there were so many people BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2014 #116

No. rrneck Feb 2014 #121

ok. i tried my best to elicit empathy. BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2014 #126

Standard prodedure. rrneck Feb 2014 #132

It was a valiant try... TDale313 Feb 2014 #165

yep, they like it. BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2014 #267

isn't it part and parcel of the way Men have been told how to deal with Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #279

It's the internet alright and what usually happens is that women RBStevens Feb 2014 #133

Only if you can't read. rrneck Feb 2014 #138

What I'm saying is - bottom line - is that it is women RBStevens Feb 2014 #143

No, actually, they aren't. rrneck Feb 2014 #148

Yeah, I saw that from Skinner - RBStevens Feb 2014 #149

Wait a minute. rrneck Feb 2014 #150

Okay. I'm gathering that you think the internet is something so different or alien RBStevens Feb 2014 #151

Everybody. rrneck Feb 2014 #156

Solution - respect for other people. RBStevens Feb 2014 #160

Yes. rrneck Feb 2014 #162

15 replies? A-Schwarzenegger Feb 2014 #17

dead to you but, I refuse to make them dead to me. but, yeah I can understand why. Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #37

Thank you, Bjorn nt UtahLib Feb 2014 #19

Thank you. myrna minx Feb 2014 #20

Bjorn Against, thanks again. I grew up in the era when 'the rule of thumb' was legal in some states. freshwest Feb 2014 #22

godDAMN, that's a sickening comment from your fellow worker. BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2014 #96

Ah, ha, you should have heard my comeback to that one. I was kicking ass and taking no prisoners. freshwest Feb 2014 #137

Oh my god JustAnotherGen Feb 2014 #202

Thank you for trying to understand. senseandsensibility Feb 2014 #24

The comments that were made in post after post were abusive. sheshe2 Feb 2014 #27

Couldn't agree more. TDale313 Feb 2014 #29

yes. abuse. And sexism trolls obtusely insist it's about taking their BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2014 #111

Noooo, Blanche sheshe2 Feb 2014 #119

"idiots" My Good Babushka Feb 2014 #174

"DISRESPECTED. ONCE" Oh, please. Orrex Feb 2014 #210

not calling all men those things. just those who behave that way. BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2014 #264

You know who Skinner is, right? Orrex Feb 2014 #288

+ a metric fuckton opiate69 Feb 2014 #296

+100 n/t lumberjack_jeff Feb 2014 #313

Orrex--this is a pretty dense post. I want to reply when I have some time BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2014 #498

+1 RBStevens Feb 2014 #118

how do you do this leftyohiolib Feb 2014 #28

You can read a magazine in a way that is respectful to others by not shoving it in their faces Bjorn Against Feb 2014 #36

They don't need one. rrneck Feb 2014 #64

Read my OP, I gave a very good reason. Bjorn Against Feb 2014 #73

Yes, rrneck Feb 2014 #76

I simply asked that women be treated with respect, is that really so difficult to do? Bjorn Against Feb 2014 #78

Respect is fine. rrneck Feb 2014 #83

"Demanding that certain things not be posted thucythucy Feb 2014 #234

Of course DU has standards. rrneck Feb 2014 #255

Did I ever say anything about juries not agreeing with me? thucythucy Feb 2014 #362

Well, rrneck Feb 2014 #376

"This place doesn't belong to you...." thucythucy Feb 2014 #410

It's because the debate is not about the image on DU or images in the media. rrneck Feb 2014 #428

Are you even interested in any answers? KitSileya Feb 2014 #475

Of course I'm interested in answers. rrneck Feb 2014 #494

How respectful you are. KitSileya Feb 2014 #496

Of course we can change the world for the better. rrneck Feb 2014 #497

You've made some very pertinent points in this post. Couldn't have said it better. nt Democracyinkind Feb 2014 #477

Apparently so. TDale313 Feb 2014 #88

Yeah, unfortunately they can't resist proving my point that there is a lack of respect for women Bjorn Against Feb 2014 #93

They'll never admit that's what's going on TDale313 Feb 2014 #108

that's what i dont get nobody SHOVED their faces anywhere they walked in, stayed and bitched the leftyohiolib Feb 2014 #195

Something else you don't get..... Bobbie Jo Feb 2014 #217

i get that,explain to me how someone who enters a post stays there is so offended yet they leftyohiolib Feb 2014 #231

Wut? Bobbie Jo Feb 2014 #232

Rec. And thank you. Squinch Feb 2014 #30

That's what I said... Triana Feb 2014 #32

nice. Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #40

Not through with causing an uproar I see. zeemike Feb 2014 #33

Calling for basic respect to be shown is not anger Bjorn Against Feb 2014 #38

How about basic respect for those that like to look at pretty men or women? zeemike Feb 2014 #82

I never said you can't look at pretty men or women Bjorn Against Feb 2014 #90

Well if it were plastered on the front page i would agree with you. zeemike Feb 2014 #127

Here, I'll bold this for you theHandpuppet Feb 2014 #176

Well does a meta post like this belong in GD? zeemike Feb 2014 #197

If you really didn't understand my post theHandpuppet Feb 2014 #211

Well I call your OP flame bate. zeemike Feb 2014 #221

As you wish. theHandpuppet Feb 2014 #223

Excellent! RC Feb 2014 #504

But calling people "twits"? My Good Babushka Feb 2014 #245

current events pintobean Feb 2014 #204

The cover of World Weekly News might be an event, too theHandpuppet Feb 2014 #212

Never heard of it pintobean Feb 2014 #222

I have. theHandpuppet Feb 2014 #224

Holy crap that is one of the funniest things I've ever seen here!! Sheldon Cooper Feb 2014 #203

Funny why? zeemike Feb 2014 #207

Sorry, I haven't stopped laughing yet. Sheldon Cooper Feb 2014 #208

Ridicule is what is used when you don't have an argument. zeemike Feb 2014 #209

OR AtheistCrusader Feb 2014 #375

Oh if it were only real laughter. zeemike Feb 2014 #386

Thanks again, for trying to understand and for showing support. MadrasT Feb 2014 #43

You have no idea how much your expessing an understanding of the issues and caring about it... hlthe2b Feb 2014 #48

re: question about this part -"I am a man and I must admit that I really don't understand women quinnox Feb 2014 #53

No they can't understand men, a person can only truly understand their own life Bjorn Against Feb 2014 #59

thanks for answering quinnox Feb 2014 #61

I don't know why you would think I would not be consistent Bjorn Against Feb 2014 #68

Hmmm... rrneck Feb 2014 #60

interesting answer quinnox Feb 2014 #65

One could argue that since men dominate our society jeff47 Feb 2014 #70

That is certainly an argument that could be made, agreed quinnox Feb 2014 #74

The reverse does not apply in general. KitSileya Feb 2014 #167

great post n/t zazen Feb 2014 #188

Doumo Arigatou gozaimasu. yuiyoshida Feb 2014 #56

Bjorn Against---that is the clearest, most geniune explanation BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2014 #66

K & R SunSeeker Feb 2014 #101

Thank you for stepping up. nt DURHAM D Feb 2014 #109

K&R Starry Messenger Feb 2014 #110

I used to play World of Warcraft not too long ago LostOne4Ever Feb 2014 #114

I am a gamer too and I know exactly what you are talking about Bjorn Against Feb 2014 #122

I am also a gamer- it's carried over from the days when there were very few women playing Marrah_G Feb 2014 #181

Beautifully put. Thank you. TDale313 Feb 2014 #131

+1 Squinch Feb 2014 #348

To play the devil's advocate Bodhi BloodWave Feb 2014 #115

I do respect their choice, I never said a word against the models Bjorn Against Feb 2014 #124

Not one single person has said a single word against RBStevens Feb 2014 #140

You signed up on Feb. 18, right? The actual thread was posted 4 days before that. Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #152

Perhaps it was the egregious nature of that particular thread that RBStevens Feb 2014 #154

You claimed no one said anything nasty about the women in the picture. Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #155

No I saw those statements and I thought given the context of the RBStevens Feb 2014 #158

They struck me as awfully ugly things to say, and aimed at the women themselves. Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #159

Obviously my milage does vary. RBStevens Feb 2014 #161

Things that make you go "Hmmmm." opiate69 Feb 2014 #157

the trash button is a highly Niceguy1 Feb 2014 #145

Heated discussion is normal on a political forum LittleBlue Feb 2014 #147

As the Rush lyrics go, "If you decide not to decide, you still have made a choice." stevenleser Feb 2014 #199

Thanks for your follow up in ATA, Bjorn Against BainsBane Feb 2014 #164

Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus. . B Calm Feb 2014 #172

The question, to me, is whether a few people will decide My Good Babushka Feb 2014 #173

Um.. all moderated discussion boards include the premise of "a few PeaceNikki Feb 2014 #178

Yes. Two people get to decide, and I'm one of them. Sheldon Cooper Feb 2014 #185

Of course, everyone should abide by the administrators decision My Good Babushka Feb 2014 #190

"liberality, abundance, and vigorous debate" sounds great, but Sheldon Cooper Feb 2014 #192

I would only point out that those who claim to demand respect for everyone My Good Babushka Feb 2014 #193

I have no idea how that relates to my post, Sheldon Cooper Feb 2014 #194

.... Democracyinkind Feb 2014 #186

You are warned that you can't discuss it in the Mens Group boston bean Feb 2014 #191

You're asked not to discuss it in that actual thread, because that's not what the thread is for. Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #236

right....... boston bean Feb 2014 #239

Yeah, you made a patently false assertion. Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #316

really? boston bean Feb 2014 #318

In the OP for the 3rd thread, yes, I made a -request- that it not be derailed. Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #319

Yep, and you derailed my point beyond, with a bunch of BS accusations. boston bean Feb 2014 #325

Where, specifically, did I make any accusation about anything? Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #331

accusing me of making a patently false accusation: boston bean Feb 2014 #334

You're having a conversation with someone else, not me, I think. Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #336

yeah, why did you have to make that declaration. boston bean Feb 2014 #347

Is this really how you enjoy spending your time on this planet? Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #349

No, it's really not how I enjoy spending time on this planet, you? boston bean Feb 2014 #354

You're right. The precise words you used were, "many objected". Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #355

Uh, for full transparency, I provided the exact text from the OP and who made it boston bean Feb 2014 #356

I think the subthread speaks for itself. Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #358

I'll talk to you anytime. boston bean Feb 2014 #359

He made a request, not a warning... opiate69 Feb 2014 #321

Just for the record... opiate69 Feb 2014 #407

The message seemed pretty clear to me. boston bean Feb 2014 #491

Wrong question. MadrasT Feb 2014 #198

The post in question didn't transgress the terms My Good Babushka Feb 2014 #200

Another one who says if it's not written down in TOS, boston bean Feb 2014 #201

+1 n/t Gormy Cuss Feb 2014 #214

Now you are moving the goalposts. MadrasT Feb 2014 #205

Over the years, DU has shut down discussion on a number of topics that caused strife, PeaceNikki Feb 2014 #216

You can't very well have a discussion BainsBane Feb 2014 #350

You really couldn't make this stuff up... opiate69 Feb 2014 #357

Your support for the women of DU is much appreciated. DLevine Feb 2014 #177

Respect? Harmony Blue Feb 2014 #206

And some queer women felt that posting that in GD was still cinnabonbon Feb 2014 #215

All kinds of non-political stuff is discussed in GD Orrex Feb 2014 #233

I still don't see why I'd want to see lesbian soft porn in GD? cinnabonbon Feb 2014 #241

I haven't seen any lesbian soft porn in GD. Orrex Feb 2014 #242

Good for you? cinnabonbon Feb 2014 #470

You set a low bar for what qualifies as porn Orrex Feb 2014 #493

In my opinion, some people should be charged with littering theHandpuppet Feb 2014 #252

And there are some lesbians here... theHandpuppet Feb 2014 #219

Plus 1000. DURHAM D Feb 2014 #229

Thank you. cinnabonbon Feb 2014 #466

Sexual orientation is entirely irrelveant to this conversation BainsBane Feb 2014 #262

Yeah, that puzzled me too. cinnabonbon Feb 2014 #467

Good post Bjorn... I also agree with your ATA thread Ohio Joe Feb 2014 #218

So if I open a door out of 'respect' for women, what do we call that? The Straight Story Feb 2014 #220

wow. boston bean Feb 2014 #228

What? The Straight Story Feb 2014 #235

Did it ever occur to you that boston bean Feb 2014 #237

Of course it did The Straight Story Feb 2014 #243

I don't know why you would have such a problem boston bean Feb 2014 #246

It is a definitional issue The Straight Story Feb 2014 #261

Quit lying about what I said Bjorn Against Feb 2014 #266

Well now The Straight Story Feb 2014 #276

Bwahahaha! You still can't get past the Doors? Whisp Feb 2014 #244

And your reply is what? The Straight Story Feb 2014 #263

No one is asking you to treat women differently BainsBane Feb 2014 #269

Your reply is exactly what I have been talking about The Straight Story Feb 2014 #284

You are not showing respect because you have made clear BainsBane Feb 2014 #287

As for subhuman BainsBane Feb 2014 #291

And some think they are the sole arbitrator on what is and what is not The Straight Story Feb 2014 #297

No one is claiming to be sole arbiter BainsBane Feb 2014 #307

About recs and doors The Straight Story Feb 2014 #317

Hmm it appears my reply above was alerted on, the results: The Straight Story Feb 2014 #290

"he does not belong on DU" pintobean Feb 2014 #294

I wish people were made to sign on all alerts. nt. polly7 Feb 2014 #299

That one didn't need to be signed. pintobean Feb 2014 #308

Much like about half, by my research, of the much ballyhooed "Recs" opiate69 Feb 2014 #310

Oh, my. Desperation is the mother of invention. BainsBane Feb 2014 #352

I know.. it's such a dogs life for some... opiate69 Feb 2014 #361

Some dog's have a pretty good life. BainsBane Feb 2014 #366

And some don't. polly7 Feb 2014 #369

insightful as ever polly BainsBane Feb 2014 #371

It shows that polly7 Feb 2014 #373

Are you going to always bring that up. hrmjustin Feb 2014 #382

When she denies the presence of socks here and basically laughs at someone for polly7 Feb 2014 #383

Whether there are socks or not she admitted her mistake so just let it go. hrmjustin Feb 2014 #385

Did you mistakenly assume I take orders from you? polly7 Feb 2014 #389

Polly I am sorry if you took it ad an order but she did not say socs don't exist. hrmjustin Feb 2014 #392

I disagree. Apology accepted. polly7 Feb 2014 #393

I have to say I personally like her and think. she is a great poster. hrmjustin Feb 2014 #394

That's great! polly7 Feb 2014 #397

Which group? hrmjustin Feb 2014 #398

Your HOF group. nt. polly7 Feb 2014 #399

Hof is not my group. I post every once and awhile to say hello or k and r. hrmjustin Feb 2014 #401

That's true. I'm guilty of it myself. polly7 Feb 2014 #404

Thank you for listening. hrmjustin Feb 2014 #405

If I apologize for doing something, can I then claim that the thing in question never happens? lumberjack_jeff Feb 2014 #403

She never said they don't exist. hrmjustin Feb 2014 #406

Ignore and ignorance are close cousins. lumberjack_jeff Feb 2014 #409

I don't read it that way. Thefact is lots of people are members of this site don't post or post hrmjustin Feb 2014 #412

It looks like you're doing HOF's dirty work. pintobean Feb 2014 #421

For your information I told her to do the same thing. hrmjustin Feb 2014 #423

I'm confused... How does ignore effect ones black list? opiate69 Feb 2014 #425

No. If I don't want you judging my posts pintobean Feb 2014 #430

Ok.. That still doesn't make much sense in regards to Bane's Spartacus thread... opiate69 Feb 2014 #432

If they empty their iggy lists pintobean Feb 2014 #433

Ok.. Yeah.. I finally got around to that lol.. opiate69 Feb 2014 #434

Did you read through that thread? pintobean Feb 2014 #435

Lol.. Yup... opiate69 Feb 2014 #437

What would happen if there were no "iggy" lists and no jury *blacklists*? RBStevens Feb 2014 #442

Something like this pintobean Feb 2014 #443

You know, I appreciate fine films from the 80s RBStevens Feb 2014 #444

You want me to speculate pintobean Feb 2014 #446

Not really. Thank you for taking the time to answer with words though. RBStevens Feb 2014 #454

That's quite the machievellian mind you have there BainsBane Feb 2014 #453

Did you alert pintobean Feb 2014 #456

Would that be like your recent alerts on my OPs? BainsBane Feb 2014 #457

Not me. pintobean Feb 2014 #459

Yup, that's what this is about. Not one of them has commented on the OP, which is ironic R B Garr Feb 2014 #474

It's easier than actually articulating a position on an issue BainsBane Feb 2014 #384

Exactly!!! polly7 Feb 2014 #395

Twilight Zone BainsBane Feb 2014 #400

Well I admit, I erred there. polly7 Feb 2014 #402

What argument am I running from? BainsBane Feb 2014 #408

Who threw Riff under the bus?? opiate69 Feb 2014 #413

Heh ... polly7 Feb 2014 #419

Cute dog... but... ( ya had to know there was going to be a "but") opiate69 Feb 2014 #374

It's okay, my dear, sweet Opiate BainsBane Feb 2014 #379

Oh, I bet I know what it is.. opiate69 Feb 2014 #380

I got it right. BainsBane Feb 2014 #381

if you think you have something earth shaking to reveal, by all means do. opiate69 Feb 2014 #387

ZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz BainsBane Feb 2014 #391

This message was self-deleted by its author rrneck Feb 2014 #388

Lots of people are members here and rec but don't or hardly post. hrmjustin Feb 2014 #411

And, as I know you also saw on MIRT... opiate69 Feb 2014 #414

That is true but no one is denying that. hrmjustin Feb 2014 #415

I guess I'm just more cynical than the average bear. opiate69 Feb 2014 #416

I understand. hrmjustin Feb 2014 #417

I reccognize most of the names in the rec list BainsBane Feb 2014 #478

snork!!! opiate69 Feb 2014 #300

Ya know what is really funny? The Straight Story Feb 2014 #306

It is called respect BainsBane Feb 2014 #265

Isn't it amazing how they think that treating women decently is saying that women are weak? KitSileya Feb 2014 #278

Yes, but I wouldn't mistake it for stupidity BainsBane Feb 2014 #285

That is a very good point. KitSileya Feb 2014 #289

"MOVE YOUR FOOT!" yes, this, +1 MadrasT Feb 2014 #351

Thank you Beringia Feb 2014 #225

Thank you for this Op. K&R (with respect)... Jasana Feb 2014 #226

Thank you for this Bjorn. thucythucy Feb 2014 #238

I understand your point, but I feel like this might feed the trolls more than anything. chrisa Feb 2014 #257

And a thread about suicide among men doesn't attract trolls? lumberjack_jeff Feb 2014 #274

What a sad spectacle. JVS Feb 2014 #472

These trolls are going to have to go on a diet soon betsuni Feb 2014 #460

Go for it. Welcome to DU. rrneck Feb 2014 #495

So, waddya think? rrneck Feb 2014 #315

and we danced, and we cried, and we laughed and opiate69 Feb 2014 #322

I agree Jack Rabbit Feb 2014 #320

"There's nothing to discuss" pintobean Feb 2014 #328

Right because it was posted by a woman! RBStevens Feb 2014 #396

k&r Liberal_in_LA Feb 2014 #335

Hey! blkmusclmachine Feb 2014 #344

Because this thread needs even more straw BainsBane Feb 2014 #360

There are so many wonderful men here wryter2000 Feb 2014 #363

Name three rhett o rick Feb 2014 #438

What about the woman adult models on the covers.? Are they not free to do this legal work? Sunlei Feb 2014 #463

This question has been answered a lot in the other posts nt cinnabonbon Feb 2014 #471

Your thread has reminded me why I don't support certain feminists on DU. Waiting For Everyman Feb 2014 #476

Oh dear betsuni Feb 2014 #479

Until they want to be for ALL women, I'm not interested. Waiting For Everyman Feb 2014 #480

No betsuni Feb 2014 #481

I think you missed the word *certain*... Violet_Crumble Feb 2014 #482

Could you give some examples then, please? betsuni Feb 2014 #484

Can't do that, because it'd be considered a call-out by a jury... Violet_Crumble Feb 2014 #485

I didn't notice anything in this thread! betsuni Feb 2014 #492

They're easy to identify. pintobean Feb 2014 #483

Private meta war room? betsuni Feb 2014 #486

I'm going with Violet's answer. pintobean Feb 2014 #488

Oh, well, it's all so secretive and cryptic betsuni Feb 2014 #506

My nerves are fine pintobean Feb 2014 #507

I wouldn't have used "hit a nerve" betsuni Feb 2014 #510

Wow. redqueen Feb 2014 #499

Is there a point? Waiting For Everyman Feb 2014 #500

The point is self-evident. redqueen Feb 2014 #501

Because they're different. Waiting For Everyman Feb 2014 #502

Ouch, my brains betsuni Feb 2014 #508

"Certain women???" ScreamingMeemie Feb 2014 #509

Just wanted to say again thucythucy Feb 2014 #505