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In reply to the discussion: Are there women here who are not offended by the SI cover or Kate Upton's spread? [View all]BainsBane
(57,762 posts)If we were truly women, we would know our place was to be deferential to men.
Hostile environment is defined by equal opportunity law as based in the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Evidently you think it is Republicans and not Democrats who care about equal rights. If we were real Democrats, we would realize we had no right to speak in public, that our role was to pretend to be less intelligent than men and to always defer to their wishes.
During these 61 years you have been on the earth, did you ever hold a job with an employer that followed labor law or go to a Democratic Party office or any public building? Because the girly pics you seem to think are emblematic of liberal values have been prohibited in such places for decades. There is nothing new about any of this. See Jensen v. Evelyth Taconite. See what the EEOC has to say about what constitutes a hostile work environment.
Hundreds of DUers have denounced that stuff as misogynistic. Are they all Republican plants too? Anyone who cares about equal rights must be a Republican because you think Democrats don't care about women's rights? I'll give you a hint. Go on over to the cave and read what they post. They agree with you and anti-HOF pals 100%. This world has changed a lot in the 61 years. You think asserting equal rights and challenging your privilege is a hostile environment. The law sees it quite differently.
Women and people of color are majority voters in the Democratic Party. That means we are human beings who count and have rights. The party does not belong to you, and there is nothing liberal about disrespecting women's views and rights.
Of course many of the more serious manifestations of misogyny occur outside the reach of equal opportunity law and are far more dangerous that what we can see online. Domestic violence is a key example. Some men feel entitled to beat their wives, and when their wives finally have enough and leave them, they take their rage out on random women on the internet. So yes, posting girly pics is actually pretty mild in terms of the broader misogyny in American culture. But as Bjorn Against pointed out, what opened his eyes to how serious the problem is was not the pics themselves but the absolute disrespect with which women who have expressed their concerns have been treated. Sometimes, that can point to far more serious underlying issues.