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119. actually I sorta gave the same answer to a cop back in 1986

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 01:44 PM

Mar 2012

It was 2 a.m. and I had an upset stomach. So I walked half a mile or so to the grocery store which was open 24/7 and bought some soda. Threw up again in the gutter on my way home. Three blocks later I notice I am being followed by a slow moving vehicle. Kinda relieved when it turned out to be the police and not some thugs looking to jump me. Unfortunately, it turned out to be a thug with a badge. Oh, he got all high and mighty when I asked him "why?" when he asked for ID.

What can I say, it was too close to 1984 and I never heard of any law that says you need ID to walk on the streets, even at 2 a.m.

Still, I am not gonna start a fight with somebody who asks a question or two, or even with somebody who grabs my arm. I apologized to the cop to keep him from beating me up, but still wish I had gotten his badge number. Who knows though, he may have beaten me up if I had asked for it.

Funny thing is, about 9 out of 10 people I have told this story to, took the side of the cop. And these people are supposed to be MY friends.

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"If Trayvon Had Only Answered In an Appropriate Manner There Would have Been No Problem" [View all] K Gardner Mar 2012 OP

existing while black phantom power Mar 2012 #1

I'm trying to find a transcript, if not, I'll try to transcribe it K Gardner Mar 2012 #2

Exactamundo nt Taverner Mar 2012 #166

It actually begs the question.. what does THIS guy know and what did K Gardner Mar 2012 #184

This is what so scares me about living in Florida and the ease with which people can carry a gun HockeyMom Mar 2012 #3

We have the same law in Tennessee - and legislatures keep easing K Gardner Mar 2012 #6

. Go Vols Mar 2012 #61

LOL.. I guess I wasn't looking when that one passed :-) Thanks. n/t K Gardner Mar 2012 #81

Go Vols! Fawke Em Mar 2012 #123

Me too, Fawke ! K Gardner Mar 2012 #183

Guns in bars. Brigid Mar 2012 #71

Yeah, drunks and guns HockeyMom Mar 2012 #134

Legal in Arizona. Wait Wut Mar 2012 #154

You are not allowed to drink while carrying obamanut2012 Mar 2012 #261

I carry everyday and everywhere I am allowed to in Florida. Even my store has a gun. L0oniX Mar 2012 #49

Or you would get us all killed while trying to go for your gun? nt nanabugg Mar 2012 #56

One of the scariest scenes in boogie nights got root Mar 2012 #141

Or, as a good friend ex-correctional officer COLGATE4 Mar 2012 #162

...or the robber would shoot all the witnesses ...and the store clerk. L0oniX Mar 2012 #204

I have JonLP24 Mar 2012 #227

I don't trust ANYONE with a gun. Period. Hell Hath No Fury Mar 2012 #74

Actually ...someone with a knife is more dangerous. L0oniX Mar 2012 #206

Sad life got root Mar 2012 #77

Maybe you could help by working with the religious right on that "sick society". L0oniX Mar 2012 #205

Sad yes, realistic? YES, HELL YES. BeHereNow Mar 2012 #234

I bet you've never experienced being robbed at gunpoint groundloop Mar 2012 #103

this is a really useful insight renate Mar 2012 #148

Excellent post.. and sorry that happened to you. n/t K Gardner Mar 2012 #150

K&R. Best and most honest answer yet COLGATE4 Mar 2012 #163

You can bet all you want. L0oniX Mar 2012 #203

'That sheriff should be fired..." ??? Zimmerman wasn't a sheriff AnotherDreamWeaver Mar 2012 #109

So, HOW exactly does that work? If it wasn't his employment ... ? He just starts showing up in a patrice Mar 2012 #194

I read he had lived in the area, but left after the incident. AnotherDreamWeaver Mar 2012 #199

There are so many questions. I wonder if, as you say, "the area" = the gated-community in which his patrice Mar 2012 #207

Gated communities don't equal money obamanut2012 Mar 2012 #262

I never said Zimmerman was a sheriff. L0oniX Mar 2012 #201

OK, well, the police chief took leave or something, AnotherDreamWeaver Mar 2012 #219

I think he means the police chief. nt Honeycombe8 Mar 2012 #211

Oh yeah! Have you ever heard from anyone that carried a gun xtraxritical Mar 2012 #114

Yes I have ...and the bull shit is all yours. L0oniX Mar 2012 #202

I don't have a carry license, but I have a gun. I'm from Louisiana... Honeycombe8 Mar 2012 #213

I agree with you obamanut2012 Mar 2012 #263

We often play the hero in our imaginations. LanternWaste Mar 2012 #236

Translation: If he hadn't got all uppity. ret5hd Mar 2012 #4

EXACTLY what I said downthread, Ret5HD. Ecumenist Mar 2012 #19

Are you Black? lose the pain body Mar 2012 #26

Yeah, what right does a Zimmerman-type have to ask why we are walking indepat Mar 2012 #157

None. No right whatsoever to ask. Rex Mar 2012 #178

DefCon 5 was the LOWEST defense condition and it = situation normal. HereSince1628 Mar 2012 #5

Evidently the neighbor didn't know his Defcon Numbers.. but he K Gardner Mar 2012 #8

most of us know Defcon numbers from the movie "War Games" hfojvt Mar 2012 #110

I believe there's actually a law that says movies actually have to change stuff like that around Downtown Hound Mar 2012 #137

Well on the DVD, the commentary from the producers hfojvt Mar 2012 #220

It was a basically a count-down to nuclear war... HereSince1628 Mar 2012 #153

I hate that phrase though hfojvt Mar 2012 #221

It's interesting to me how number sequences can be seen... HereSince1628 Mar 2012 #223

war with Iraq probably was inevitable hfojvt Mar 2012 #229

I'm sure that's one countdown I would have favored. HereSince1628 Mar 2012 #230

I certainly wouldn't want to live in an area where I am subject spot interrogation.... Liberal Veteran Mar 2012 #7

Bingo. Also, some reports say Zimmerman wasn't even part of the K Gardner Mar 2012 #13

Yeah apparently it was confirmed. He was self-appointed but not on the team. n/t vaberella Mar 2012 #168

Who watches the Watchmen? Dragonfli Mar 2012 #99

actually I sorta gave the same answer to a cop back in 1986 hfojvt Mar 2012 #119

The only person you have to answer to is law enforcement obamanut2012 Mar 2012 #264

If those friggin gated communities want... Little Star Mar 2012 #9

A civil suit for wrongful death against the gated community may be in order. kiranon Mar 2012 #89

Good thought! Little Star Mar 2012 #92

Yeah, he should have said "yassuh, massa I's sorry" tularetom Mar 2012 #10

+1 n/t n2doc Mar 2012 #14

+2 (we need like buttons for comments) n/t K Gardner Mar 2012 #15

What about his school suspension? lose the pain body Mar 2012 #28

What does his school suspension have to do with getting shot? n/t ceile Mar 2012 #35

Post removed Post removed Mar 2012 #37

And again- nothing to do with him getting shot. n/t ceile Mar 2012 #44

You are not going to like this but your comment is in fact a text book example of racism MattBaggins Mar 2012 #64

Well, you see arthritisR_US Mar 2012 #50

He was suspended for being late to school too many times csziggy Mar 2012 #57

And this has always struck me as a stupid policy. Tatiana Mar 2012 #88

From what I've read this was a really good kid csziggy Mar 2012 #98

Free public education malls, open 8a - 8p, 365. Cradle to grave free education. patrice Mar 2012 #231

WRONG! Even his own father said something completely different. rainy day woman 69 Mar 2012 #247

His father was not the custodial parent and may not have known the exact reason csziggy Mar 2012 #249

That article's a week old, m'dear! shadegrown tofu Mar 2012 #253

I'll believe the quote from the teacher at the school csziggy Mar 2012 #256

You created an account just to revive this thread and slam a murdered child? K Gardner Mar 2012 #250

She's gone. Again. uppityperson Mar 2012 #251

You are ALL OVER THIS THREAD criticizing this Murdered Boy and K Gardner Mar 2012 #62

Tell me how I criticize the victim. rainy day woman 69 Mar 2012 #248

It tickles me to no end to see all of the "angst" over the "younger pic" used Number23 Mar 2012 #259

I have no idea why they are trying to smear Trayvon's reputation now, after he is dead. Major Hogwash Mar 2012 #260

Smearing his reputation is the first tactic to discrediting the international Number23 Mar 2012 #266

lame got root Mar 2012 #79

Perhaps because that is none of your fucking business?n/t Horse with no Name Mar 2012 #113

Um, I got suspended from school once Downtown Hound Mar 2012 #133

Lol boy gets suspended from school. therefore he must be such an asshole he deserves getting shot... DFab420 Mar 2012 #158

Why yes he was. In fact Glen Beck COLGATE4 Mar 2012 #164

You're funny. Did you read your absurd question? vaberella Mar 2012 #169

His school suspension was over being late...not problem behavior. Lilyeye Mar 2012 #185

Honey, save that mess for someone else im in you ur in me Mar 2012 #225

Stormfront boring today? How about you save your mess for someone else troll. Lilyeye Mar 2012 #228

Right. NOLALady Mar 2012 #224

Who gives a MOTHERFUCK about his school suspension? What's wrong with you? DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2012 #232

oops....I see this POS has been tombstoned, without an "ex" Freeper having the chance to defend him DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2012 #233

yes, you are indeed defending zimmerman noiretextatique Mar 2012 #238

zimmerman had prior ARRESTS...not sure if he was ever suspended for being late to school though noiretextatique Mar 2012 #244

Horrible. Ugly racism. Disgusting. yardwork Mar 2012 #11

Did you get your outrage fix for the day? lose the pain body Mar 2012 #40

listen troll: racist murders are outrageous noiretextatique Mar 2012 #242

From what I heard on the news (CNN) Zimmerman xtraxritical Mar 2012 #122

subtext: know your place, boy frylock Mar 2012 #12

Our "place" as human being is to be civilized. lose the pain body Mar 2012 #43

How quaint MattBaggins Mar 2012 #69

Actually, as Hispanic mothers, that's what we tell our kids Rozlee Mar 2012 #106

That is exactly what they're taught in order to come back home to their mother alive... vaberella Mar 2012 #171

George Zimmerman.. is that you?? n/t K Gardner Mar 2012 #78

Enjoy your stay malaise Mar 2012 #94

Being A Cop Is No Excuse to be Mouthy, Asswipe otohara Mar 2012 #102

So many options depend upon what/whose game one plays. Get suckered, or intentionally choose, THEIR patrice Mar 2012 #147

troll harder, please Blue_Tires Mar 2012 #175

And it was not civilized of Zimmerman to chase Martin around the neighborhood that night fishwax Mar 2012 #218

Anderson may not have understood what that guy was saying csziggy Mar 2012 #66

Uh, not buying it - LibertyLover Mar 2012 #143

I heard that too and the first thing in my mind was "ain't this some "ish"?" Ecumenist Mar 2012 #16

We will probably never know the truth of what really happened.. because K Gardner Mar 2012 #22

yes Carolina Mar 2012 #47

So anyone who thinks that there are a variety of responses, other than "Fuck you!", many of which patrice Mar 2012 #235

so, mr taffe knows how trayvon answered? how's that mr taffe? and what is the 'appropriate manner'? spanone Mar 2012 #17

At the very least, you'd think Cooper would've asked deutsey Mar 2012 #23

I would have liked to hear more of the interview. marble falls Mar 2012 #84

The "appropriate" way -- Hell Hath No Fury Mar 2012 #36

That seems about right... Moostache Mar 2012 #116

"These racist fools cannot even see that the very idea of blaming the victim..." Hell Hath No Fury Mar 2012 #124

I'm not surprised at all that there weren't any follow up questions. He's just another newsmodel, Guy Whitey Corngood Mar 2012 #18

+1000 Blue_Tires Mar 2012 #174

The Appropriate Answer, Sir, Is 'None Of Your Fucking Business' The Magistrate Mar 2012 #20

No, that is rudeness that any parent lose the pain body Mar 2012 #29

Cause a Black Man always has to be polite. Hell Hath No Fury Mar 2012 #31

Post removed Post removed Mar 2012 #34

Uh yeah, right. Hell Hath No Fury Mar 2012 #38

The fact that you think you're entitled to be rude to others because of how they treat lose the pain body Mar 2012 #45

As If You're Exhibiting Positive Spirituality On This Thread....... (n/t) Paladin Mar 2012 #82

It Is, Sir, At Least Now In The Spirit World.... The Magistrate Mar 2012 #87

Everyone should be polite. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2012 #180

It IS possible that some people are thinking that ANYONE in that position should do what it takes patrice Mar 2012 #237

That Is The Appropriate Answer, Ma'am, and What Anyone Interfering With A Stranger Should Expect The Magistrate Mar 2012 #60

Yes and perhaps you will yeild that, amongst all possible reactions to this answer, that particular patrice Mar 2012 #144

People Who Accost Strangers In Public, Sir, Ought To Be Made To Feel Small The Magistrate Mar 2012 #155

Not an absolute. Some of us feel that private victories can be the sweetest. That said, it is patrice Mar 2012 #160

Such behaviors aren't always about that particular person feeling "above themselves and their patrice Mar 2012 #161

My Assertion, Sir, is Simply That People Have A Right To Go About their Peaceable Way Without Bother The Magistrate Mar 2012 #170

Agreed. With the caution that that way should, in fact, be peaceable and not visit, intentionally or patrice Mar 2012 #186

Why do you say her? MattBaggins Mar 2012 #70

It appears Mr. Zimmerman was a self appointed "Watchman" AnotherDreamWeaver Mar 2012 #96

Yes, so TM's reaction, whatever it was, is justifiable. But WHO in the neighborhood knew patrice Mar 2012 #159

One of the first articles I read after hearing news of the tapes on the radio, AnotherDreamWeaver Mar 2012 #187

Yes, that kind of stuff. Have you tried to get a job lately? Personality assessments are patrice Mar 2012 #188

Could neighborhood legal involvement be one of the reasons PD was trying to bury it? patrice Mar 2012 #197

This is referred to as a 'gated community' AnotherDreamWeaver Mar 2012 #200

Someone lies in wait with a gun, for FREE? What does that say about motive? patrice Mar 2012 #208

have you read the Mother Jones piece? AnotherDreamWeaver Mar 2012 #215

Thanks. patrice Mar 2012 #217

What park of not talking to strangers do you not get? Logical Mar 2012 #120

what makes you believe he should have been "polite" noiretextatique Mar 2012 #240

"I have a date with your mother" d_r Mar 2012 #129

+1000 that is the correct answer to any asshole who thinks they can judge "where you belong" noiretextatique Mar 2012 #239

how disgusting samsingh Mar 2012 #21

Fly on the wall Wellstone ruled Mar 2012 #24

I wasn't aware of the geographic proximity.. but good point. n/t K Gardner Mar 2012 #27

No one has to answer anyone! You don't even have to answer the police ...and you shouldn't. L0oniX Mar 2012 #25

I was just about to post this! Now we have to answer "correctly" to "Watch Captains", or DIE?! WinkyDink Mar 2012 #52

Personally, I'd be wondering if some SOB, crazy enough to interrogate me, might also be crazy enough patrice Mar 2012 #243

I wanted to punch that guy in the face. Hell Hath No Fury Mar 2012 #30

I had to walk away from the TV.. so I missed Tobin's response. It's K Gardner Mar 2012 #33

Tobin was aghast and you could tell -- Hell Hath No Fury Mar 2012 #55

So you read what you posted and cannot see that Anderson was simply allowing for the other side to lose the pain body Mar 2012 #32

You're joking, right? If so, you forgot the sarcasm smiley. Because K Gardner Mar 2012 #39

I never said I thought it was a great thing. lose the pain body Mar 2012 #46

The other side can respond all they want. ceile Mar 2012 #41

"Fucking coon" Hell Hath No Fury Mar 2012 #42

Post removed Post removed Mar 2012 #48

So Trayvon was supposed to be "polite" ceile Mar 2012 #53

FYI, this poster is no longer with us. uppityperson Mar 2012 #63

Thank god.. I was having a meltdown over here. n/t K Gardner Mar 2012 #67

You and me both! Hell Hath No Fury Mar 2012 #80

I'm not Right-Wing. Sheesh im in you ur in me Mar 2012 #226

Many Thanks For The Action Taken. (n/t) Paladin Mar 2012 #83

Oh good. ceile Mar 2012 #85

this place is lousy with these idiots the last few days frylock Mar 2012 #97

thanks, everyone for alerting noiretextatique Mar 2012 #245

I'm truly on the verge of Alerting on you in this thread.. what are K Gardner Mar 2012 #65

You're just a big bowl of fucking stupid. Aren't you. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Mar 2012 #68

Where is the cigar in this case? I'd like to be able to identify it but the problem I'm having sabrina 1 Mar 2012 #112

Agreed. All characterizations of THEIR conversation are hypothetical. But the conversations patrice Mar 2012 #246

what "other side" are you talking about?!?! noiretextatique Mar 2012 #241

Black Men must must explain to people who we are & what we're doing for no reason at all... HipChick Mar 2012 #51

Kids are taught to avoid stranger danger. Baitball Blogger Mar 2012 #54

So not answering in an 'appropriate manner' is life threatening? And sinkingfeeling Mar 2012 #58

And just what, pray tell, is an "appropriate manner"? KamaAina Mar 2012 #59

Really, because everyone should Smilo Mar 2012 #72

A popular notion gratuitous Mar 2012 #73

As Above, So Below it would appear Dragonfli Mar 2012 #214

If only she hadn't dressed that way, she wouldn't have been raped. Dr. Strange Mar 2012 #75

+1 to the infinity on that answer LynneSin Mar 2012 #90

One to the infinity is an indeterminate form! Dr. Strange Mar 2012 #105

If the girlfriend's narrative of what she heard is accurate csziggy Mar 2012 #76

Silence was reason enought to shoot him? Wow. (nt) ehrnst Mar 2012 #86

Cooper Really Blew This Interview DallasNE Mar 2012 #91

+1 +1 +1 - n/t K Gardner Mar 2012 #93

That was my first takeaway. "Most committed by Black males," should have had a followup question. ieoeja Mar 2012 #142

Thugs Come From All Stripes DallasNE Mar 2012 #165

I'm surprised they put that tool on TV to begin with Blue_Tires Mar 2012 #179

"It was Zimmerman that did not answer in an appropriate manner and not the other way around." qanda Mar 2012 #181

Horseshit. Was he supposed to read minds? JHB Mar 2012 #95

When all is said and done, and the books are written. Taaffe will come off worse than Zimmerman... Junkdrawer Mar 2012 #100

Yeah, I just updated at bottom of OP to include Taafe's latest outrageous K Gardner Mar 2012 #111

Wow, that Taaffe guy - Hell Hath No Fury Mar 2012 #125

"His duties as watch captain" sendero Mar 2012 #101

Really cindyperry2010 Mar 2012 #104

And if only the whole country had voted for Strom Thurmond in '48 DefenseLawyer Mar 2012 #107

That really is what this is all about, isn't it. Hell Hath No Fury Mar 2012 #135

Jeez. Since when does someone have to answer another about what they are doing on a public way? AllyCat Mar 2012 #108

Why does the young man have to tell this person anything? He was just walking and doing nothing southernyankeebelle Mar 2012 #115

Maybe Trayvon DID say those things mainer Mar 2012 #117

What's the "appropriate" response when an armed man is chasing you down? Bruce Wayne Mar 2012 #118

Fuck that shit. Fawke Em Mar 2012 #121

What the interviewee was really saying was: tledford Mar 2012 #126

He's essentially affirming that Sanford is a "sundown town" by default. myrna minx Mar 2012 #136

What is a "sundown town"? HeiressofBickworth Mar 2012 #198

A "sundown town" was a town where the presence of African-Americans Art_from_Ark Mar 2012 #209

I didn't know that either. Thanks for explaning. n/t K Gardner Mar 2012 #210

Damn, that's harsh. HeiressofBickworth Mar 2012 #212

My hometown has changed in that respect Art_from_Ark Mar 2012 #216

If he hadn't been "uppity" in other words... nt Xipe Totec Mar 2012 #127

Staggering. What an idiot. An intentional idiot at that. Solly Mack Mar 2012 #128

As a WOMAN -- Hell Hath No Fury Mar 2012 #132

Exactly! Solly Mack Mar 2012 #140

Hey Mr. Taafe Downtown Hound Mar 2012 #130

In my opinion, the problem occured long before Trayvon spoke a single word. ZombieHorde Mar 2012 #131

Performing his duties.......who made him Watch Captain? ....... Historic NY Mar 2012 #138

And what was his idea of "appropriate manner"? "Yes massa!"? n/t backscatter712 Mar 2012 #139

There are way more than 2 polar possibilities & the choice depends on way more than the 2 patrice Mar 2012 #145

Link to the Cooper Interview. CBHagman Mar 2012 #146

why in the FUCKING HELL BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2012 #149

No idea.. AC just sat there with a blank look on his face and K Gardner Mar 2012 #152

I saw that interview too and all I could do was shake my head Catherine Vincent Mar 2012 #151

Oh, I have no doubt he's there. Hopefully a REAL reporter will K Gardner Mar 2012 #156

Well first off you can tell by the interview this man doesn't know Zimmerman or associated with him. vaberella Mar 2012 #167

"Fed Up Issues" ARE anger issues. surrealAmerican Mar 2012 #172

So this guy was there and knows that Trayvon didn't tell him? WI_DEM Mar 2012 #173

I was just thinking the same thing. Has this guy been questioned? K Gardner Mar 2012 #182

This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Mar 2012 #176

Fuck that lying POS. He can join his friend imo. Rex Mar 2012 #177

Thanks for the pic . . . those eyes!!! nt patrice Mar 2012 #189

Wasn't he just gorgeous? It's hard to look at those eyes. nt K Gardner Mar 2012 #193

I have put Trayvon's image with that of other innocents who motivate my somewhat patrice Mar 2012 #196

as if trayvon owed that freak an explanation for anything nt arely staircase Mar 2012 #190

If only Florida lawmakers had thought it through before they enabled intolerant vigilantes pacalo Mar 2012 #191

This Reminds me of How Women are Blamed for Being Raped JI7 Mar 2012 #192

Fuck that shit guitar man Mar 2012 #195

Stay classy with the language... shadegrown tofu Mar 2012 #252

Buh bye guitar man Mar 2012 #258

What's the appropriate way to respond to being stalked by a thug? 6000eliot Mar 2012 #222

"Taaffe": "Get in line boy!" Dawson Leery Mar 2012 #254

Taafe: 'My friend is a murderer and I am okay with that.' Rex Mar 2012 #255

Bigots truly believe this kind of crap loyalsister Mar 2012 #257

Who is Frank Taaffe? baldguy Mar 2012 #265

Thanks for this link !! n/t K Gardner Mar 2012 #267

Oh, excellent stuff. Thanks n/t Catherina Apr 2012 #268