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In reply to the discussion: It is not about the swimsuit issue it is about basic respect for women [View all]BainsBane
(54,088 posts)464. Let's reiterate
Compare and Contrast
SI cover thread, 24
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4498713
Kate Upon in space 5
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024521817
Objectification is women's fault 5
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024550887
And as a historian, my personal nominee for highest level of derpitude,
Objectification will always exist. 8
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024549576
I used to think HOF exaggerated the misogyny around here, 183
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1255&pid=38236
It's about respect for women (this thread), 112
Thanks to Skinner and Earl G for the locks, 121
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024547063
I'm against the gender wars but women shouldn't be the ones to surrender 62
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024535851
DU should be ashamed that members deny objectification is a problem, 75
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024538977
T and A threads create a hostile environment, 175
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024522226
Now I'm no math genius, but even I can figure out the second set of numbers is a lot bigger than the first. And you are indeed right that LOL Cats has more. It always does because it is entirely uncontroversial. Is that a revelation to you?
SI cover thread, 24
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4498713
Kate Upon in space 5
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024521817
Objectification is women's fault 5
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024550887
And as a historian, my personal nominee for highest level of derpitude,
Objectification will always exist. 8
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024549576
I used to think HOF exaggerated the misogyny around here, 183
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1255&pid=38236
It's about respect for women (this thread), 112
Thanks to Skinner and Earl G for the locks, 121
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024547063
I'm against the gender wars but women shouldn't be the ones to surrender 62
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024535851
DU should be ashamed that members deny objectification is a problem, 75
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024538977
T and A threads create a hostile environment, 175
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024522226
Now I'm no math genius, but even I can figure out the second set of numbers is a lot bigger than the first. And you are indeed right that LOL Cats has more. It always does because it is entirely uncontroversial. Is that a revelation to you?
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It is not about the swimsuit issue it is about basic respect for women [View all]
Bjorn Against
Feb 2014
OP
It matters very much, because we keep having a few duers imply it was all the men's fault
quinnox
Feb 2014
#91
so if some asshole of any group does something that is offensive to a large number people,
Kali
Feb 2014
#100
No, it doesn't make it ok. But it does make those who are implying this is all the work of
quinnox
Feb 2014
#104
It sounds like you were calling the woman who posted the SI pics an "asshole"
ConservativeDemocrat
Feb 2014
#326
The posts leading back to your post are about a female posting the SI pictures
R B Garr
Feb 2014
#258
Now you're equating FEMEN with Sports Illustrated Swimsuit addition pictures?
R B Garr
Feb 2014
#280
No. You are taking things out of context deliberately to push your own agenda.
R B Garr
Feb 2014
#295
The two are not equal, polly. You are very transparent. Have you even read this OP?
R B Garr
Feb 2014
#332
This is exactly how you wanted this to go. Now you're back to bashing posters
R B Garr
Feb 2014
#340
Thanks for agreeing they aren't equal. We disagree as to the reasons why they don't equate.
R B Garr
Feb 2014
#473
"We"? Nice try. If you follow the posts back, "we" started discussing polly bashing seabeyond
R B Garr
Feb 2014
#338
I hardly consider them verifying a woman made the post "throwing me under the bus"
RiffRandell
Feb 2014
#447
I don't think this situation will EVER be resolved to some peoples' satisfaction.
Warren DeMontague
Feb 2014
#462
It wasn't ABOUT the pictures themselves....it is just the reason it occurred...
VanillaRhapsody
Feb 2014
#153
It is like a real legend now. the facts don't matter, just the greater truth it supposedly
arely staircase
Feb 2014
#196
well then why don't we talk about how it was posted by a woman but almost constantly defended by men
CreekDog
Feb 2014
#227
It is wrong to compare a woman to a dog. How did the people in that thread not understand
Jetboy
Feb 2014
#39
you are very sadly mistaken if you think I have not been condemned for that comment.
Tuesday Afternoon
Feb 2014
#57
possibly ... I am not well versed enough or knowledgeable about all the
Tuesday Afternoon
Feb 2014
#283
I was not talking to you and, I asked no questions of you. In Fact, I was ANSWERING a question
Tuesday Afternoon
Feb 2014
#292
thank you, pintobean. It was nice talking to you. I am sorry our subthread was derailed.
Tuesday Afternoon
Feb 2014
#303
You can't just go around insulting other women here without expecting to get asked
polly7
Feb 2014
#305
I wasn't insulting anyone. I have asked and answered and I am done here. You have a problem with me?
Tuesday Afternoon
Feb 2014
#309
I don't even know how to dig for it but that was it to the best of my recollection. n/t
Jetboy
Feb 2014
#47
I didn't pay attention to who posted it but since you are the one you can feel free
Jetboy
Feb 2014
#63
I am trying to not take it personally and, to leave personalities out of all this...
Tuesday Afternoon
Feb 2014
#273
Jetboy, This is no longer a moderated site. There is jury system in place and Hosts determine if
Tuesday Afternoon
Feb 2014
#89
I urge you to recall all the posts you made which were dismissive of women's concerns
Bjorn Against
Feb 2014
#10
I have seen enough of your posting history to know how dismissive you have been of women
Bjorn Against
Feb 2014
#55
And that you actually have to click on the thread to see the stuff that so offends you.
Comrade Grumpy
Feb 2014
#11
Ah, but to these extremists, just like religious right fundies, a women showing
quinnox
Feb 2014
#13
Right. There just isn't the slightest difference between cheesecake stuck on your
eridani
Feb 2014
#170
I feel badly for the sub-literacy of idiots and dolts who are unable to make the distinction...
LanternWaste
Feb 2014
#323
oh, right, we wouldn't want to add melodrama to any shallow premises, here, now, would we?
Warren DeMontague
Feb 2014
#431
So? I don't know what motivated her. But she is just one woman who apparently doesn't care.
pnwmom
Feb 2014
#52
but say you could not get away from the conversations, and that there were so many people
BlancheSplanchnik
Feb 2014
#116
isn't it part and parcel of the way Men have been told how to deal with
Tuesday Afternoon
Feb 2014
#279
Okay. I'm gathering that you think the internet is something so different or alien
RBStevens
Feb 2014
#151
dead to you but, I refuse to make them dead to me. but, yeah I can understand why.
Tuesday Afternoon
Feb 2014
#37
Bjorn Against, thanks again. I grew up in the era when 'the rule of thumb' was legal in some states.
freshwest
Feb 2014
#22
Ah, ha, you should have heard my comeback to that one. I was kicking ass and taking no prisoners.
freshwest
Feb 2014
#137
yes. abuse. And sexism trolls obtusely insist it's about taking their
BlancheSplanchnik
Feb 2014
#111
Orrex--this is a pretty dense post. I want to reply when I have some time
BlancheSplanchnik
Feb 2014
#498
You can read a magazine in a way that is respectful to others by not shoving it in their faces
Bjorn Against
Feb 2014
#36
I simply asked that women be treated with respect, is that really so difficult to do?
Bjorn Against
Feb 2014
#78
You've made some very pertinent points in this post. Couldn't have said it better. nt
Democracyinkind
Feb 2014
#477
Yeah, unfortunately they can't resist proving my point that there is a lack of respect for women
Bjorn Against
Feb 2014
#93
that's what i dont get nobody SHOVED their faces anywhere they walked in, stayed and bitched the
leftyohiolib
Feb 2014
#195
i get that,explain to me how someone who enters a post stays there is so offended yet they
leftyohiolib
Feb 2014
#231
You have no idea how much your expessing an understanding of the issues and caring about it...
hlthe2b
Feb 2014
#48
re: question about this part -"I am a man and I must admit that I really don't understand women
quinnox
Feb 2014
#53
No they can't understand men, a person can only truly understand their own life
Bjorn Against
Feb 2014
#59
I am also a gamer- it's carried over from the days when there were very few women playing
Marrah_G
Feb 2014
#181
You signed up on Feb. 18, right? The actual thread was posted 4 days before that.
Warren DeMontague
Feb 2014
#152
You claimed no one said anything nasty about the women in the picture.
Warren DeMontague
Feb 2014
#155
They struck me as awfully ugly things to say, and aimed at the women themselves.
Warren DeMontague
Feb 2014
#159
As the Rush lyrics go, "If you decide not to decide, you still have made a choice."
stevenleser
Feb 2014
#199
I would only point out that those who claim to demand respect for everyone
My Good Babushka
Feb 2014
#193
You're asked not to discuss it in that actual thread, because that's not what the thread is for.
Warren DeMontague
Feb 2014
#236
In the OP for the 3rd thread, yes, I made a -request- that it not be derailed.
Warren DeMontague
Feb 2014
#319
Uh, for full transparency, I provided the exact text from the OP and who made it
boston bean
Feb 2014
#356
Over the years, DU has shut down discussion on a number of topics that caused strife,
PeaceNikki
Feb 2014
#216
So if I open a door out of 'respect' for women, what do we call that?
The Straight Story
Feb 2014
#220
And some think they are the sole arbitrator on what is and what is not
The Straight Story
Feb 2014
#297
Polly I am sorry if you took it ad an order but she did not say socs don't exist.
hrmjustin
Feb 2014
#392
If I apologize for doing something, can I then claim that the thing in question never happens?
lumberjack_jeff
Feb 2014
#403
I don't read it that way. Thefact is lots of people are members of this site don't post or post
hrmjustin
Feb 2014
#412
Ok.. That still doesn't make much sense in regards to Bane's Spartacus thread...
opiate69
Feb 2014
#432
Yup, that's what this is about. Not one of them has commented on the OP, which is ironic
R B Garr
Feb 2014
#474
Isn't it amazing how they think that treating women decently is saying that women are weak?
KitSileya
Feb 2014
#278
I understand your point, but I feel like this might feed the trolls more than anything.
chrisa
Feb 2014
#257
What about the woman adult models on the covers.? Are they not free to do this legal work?
Sunlei
Feb 2014
#463
Your thread has reminded me why I don't support certain feminists on DU.
Waiting For Everyman
Feb 2014
#476